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**Mr. Flopnuts** · 04:05 PM

I'll probably find the time to keep daily updated brackets in the thread. In the mean time, who do you have winning it all? Kentucky a lock? Teams lose. So I don't think so. I truly believe undefeated hurts you going into The Dance.

Virginia's head coach Tony Bennett comes from Wazzu and I remember being happy the day he left even though I wondered why Virginia? Not rooting for them. I really don't know.

I expect Kansas to not make the sweet 16 potentially. Definitely not a championship contender (which would make it all the sweeter should they defy the odds).

Hootie · 04-06-2015, 10:00 PM

ah shit it was pretty much a pick'em

still have a feeling the public more or less went with Duke ... because Duke

so I don't see a narrative with that one, either

I think maybe the officials are just shitty and Duke benefited from their shittiness tonight

**Saul Good** · 04-06-2015, 10:00 PM

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Originally Posted by Reerun_KC

You think the power conferences are going to form their own tournament only to let the little guys in? Really?

GloryDayz · 04-06-2015, 10:01 PM

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Originally Posted by Hootie 2.0

ah shit it was pretty much a pick'em

still have a feeling the public more or less went with Duke ... because Duke

so I don't see a narrative with that one, either

I think maybe the officials are just shitty and Duke benefited from their shittiness tonight

That makes sense.

KChiefs1 · 04-06-2015, 10:02 PM

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Originally Posted by Hootie 2.0

I'd have to look but I assume public money was on Duke. No idea though.

9.3% of all brackets had Duke winning.

Hootie · 04-06-2015, 10:02 PM

I will say, though ... the officials had a ROUGH Final Four.

Hootie · 04-06-2015, 10:03 PM

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Originally Posted by KChiefs1

9.3% of all brackets had Duke winning.

what does that have to do with tonight's game?

I bet 9.3% was the 2nd highest %, by the way ... behind whatever Kentucky had (probably 50%+)

Reerun_KC · 04-06-2015, 10:04 PM

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Originally Posted by Saul Good

You think the power conferences are going to form their own tournament only to let the little guys in? Really?

No laughing that you are limiting the tourney to 16 teams as absolute fact.

KChiefs1 · 04-06-2015, 10:05 PM

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Originally Posted by Hootie 2.0

what does that have to do with tonight's game?

I bet 9.3% was the 2nd highest %, by the way ... behind whatever Kentucky had (probably 50%+)

9.9% had Wisconsin winning.

KC_Connection · 04-06-2015, 10:09 PM

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Originally Posted by Hootie 2.0

Duke had no timeouts. If you want to extend the game, fine. But there should have been some ground rules. A) Don't follow that guy. B) Extend the ****ing game! Don't let 15 seconds run off the shot clock, first.

It was played HORRIBLY.

Look, they were down 3. They were 10 seconds removed from being down 8. Duke had no timeouts. They played 15 seconds off the shot clock. At that point, you get a stop. You go all out, get a stop, call a timeout. Then find a way to get Kaminsky a 3 and you have about 13 seconds to do so ... and if you get that game into OT you have ALL of the momentum.

That was the right move, regardless of what your statistics say. I have a hard time believing statistics are on your side with a 90% FT shooter, though.

Do statistics tell me to foul JJ Redick in a 1 possession game where you have 15 seconds over the shot clock if you get a stop?

http://www.caam.rice.edu/~fhk2/basketballendgame.pdf

You can believe what you want, but the right move is to foul there and extend the game. It was a problem of execution in the end, not strategy.

KC_Connection · 04-06-2015, 10:12 PM

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Originally Posted by Hootie 2.0

I'm just curious ... why do you think the refs wanted Duke to win? Does the NCAA make more money if Duke wins over Wisconsin? I just don't get that narrative.

Now, if you want to say the refs had some sort of betting interest or monetary investment in Duke winning so they threw the game, I guess that would at least be a narrative I could understand...

but I highly doubt the officials purposely threw the game for Duke. How are the benefiting?

Don't think anybody is saying they threw the game for Duke, but that program does routinely get a disproportionate amount of calls due to its stature in the game and its history of success. Today was just a pretty obvious example of that.

Same thing happens to a lesser extent with Kansas in the B12 (or to extend it to football, why the Patriots/Broncos get a ton more calls than they probably should with Brady/Manning). It's part of the human element of sports.

Prison Bitch · 04-06-2015, 10:13 PM

Fouling Jones at halfcourt was so galactically stupid I can't believe Wisky of all teams did that

eDave · 04-06-2015, 10:14 PM

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Originally Posted by KC_Connection

Don't think anybody is saying they threw the game for Duke, but that program does routinely get a disproportionate amount of calls due to its stature in the game and its history of success. Today was just a pretty obvious example of that.

Same thing happens to a lesser extent with Kansas in the B12. It's part of the human element of sports.

Happens everywhere. Every sport. From team to individual player.

The lesson here kids is be really good.

Hootie · 04-06-2015, 10:14 PM

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Originally Posted by Prison Bitch

Fouling Jones at halfcourt was so galactically stupid I can't believe Wisky of all teams did that

oh but read the study ! it was the right move !

KC_Connection · 04-06-2015, 10:15 PM

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Originally Posted by Saul Good

You think the power conferences are going to form their own tournament only to let the little guys in? Really?

If they want all the tournament money for themselves rather than having it go to the NCAA and get split around, I don't see why they wouldn't want to create their own tournament.

Prison Bitch · 04-06-2015, 10:16 PM

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Originally Posted by Hootie 2.0

oh but read the study ! it was the right move !

It was dumb beyond belief. And no study would back up such a stupid assertion

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