Chiefs The Clarks Love Money More than Vets - Page 19

**gblowfish** · 05-08-2015, 08:30 AM

Apologies if posted before, and maybe this ought to be in the DC section.

Washington Post reports that the Federal Military has paid millions to the NFL to "salute" veterans. The Clarks took $250,000. So much for the NFL saluting soldiers out of the goodness of their hearts.

The Chiefs don't need the money. They should send that cash back to the military to buy body armor for active service guys, so we wouldn't have so many "wounded warriors" to salute. This whole thing makes me more cynical than I already am, if that's even possible.

Just salute veterans because its the right thing to do, and pick up the goddamn check. They put their lives on the line for us, it's the least a tax-exempt, multi-billion dollar enterprise like the NFL can do.

I didn't get a harrrump outta that guy......

http://www.washingtonpost.com/blogs/...rss=rss_sports

During timeouts at home games, the New York Jets air a Hometown Heroes segment in which a U.S. soldier or two are shown on the Jumbotron and everyone thanks them for their service. The soldiers and three friends get seats in the Coaches Club. It’s a nice salute.

It’s also funded by U.S. taxpayers.

According to Christopher Baxter and Jonathan D. Salant of New Jersey Advance Media, the Department of Defense paid 14 NFL teams $5.4 million from 2011 to 2014 for salutes like the Hometown Heroes segment and other advertising at professional football games. All but $100,000 of that money came from the National Guard.

U.S. Sen. Jeff Flake (R-Ariz.) called the spending wasteful and disingenuous, Baxter and Salant report:

“Those of us go to sporting events and see them honoring the heroes,” Flake said in an interview. “You get a good feeling in your heart. Then to find out they’re doing it because they’re compensated for it, it leaves you underwhelmed. It seems a little unseemly.” …

“They realize the public believes they’re doing it as a public service or a sense of patriotism,” Flake said. “It leaves a bad taste in your mouth.”

Flake added that he has no problem with the National Guard spending money on recruitment advertising at football games. “The problem, he said, was spending taxpayer money on a program that, on its face, appeared to be a generous gesture by a football team,” Baxter and Salant write.

The story goes on to detail what the National Guard gets in return for its spending:

Aside from the Hometown Heroes segment, the agreements also included advertising and marketing services, including a kickoff video message from the Guard, digital advertising on stadium screens, online advertising and meeting space for a meeting or events.

Also, soldiers attended the annual kickoff lunch in New York City to meet and take pictures with the players for promotional use, and the Jets allowed soldiers to participate in a charity event in which coaches and players build or rebuild a playground or park.

The Jets also provided game access passes.

A National Guard spokesman said the agreement with the Jets helps promote and increase “the public’s understanding and appreciation of military service in the New Jersey Army National Guard increases the propensity for service in our ranks and garners public support for our Hometown Team.” A Jets spokesman says the team works with the National Guard just as it works with any other sponsor to tailor in-game advertising.

According to the report, the Colts and Ravens are among the other teams that have similar agreements with the National Guard.

**Rausch** · 05-13-2015, 01:46 AM

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Originally Posted by Baby Lee

In what manner are you asking?

I was attempting to provide some BL Cliff's notes.

Apparently I missed the mark...

**Rausch** · 05-13-2015, 01:46 AM

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Originally Posted by crazycoffey

In an angry intoxicated manner, d'uh.

No one's talking to you...

**Baby Lee** · 05-13-2015, 01:57 AM

Rausch, it took me all of 5 seconds, knowing where to look, to find a conversation emblematic of the contemporary discourse I'm referring to.

http://jezebel.com/since-when-did-ka...17488/+leshorn

Note: to get the full breadth of the comments click on 'all replies' and 'show pending' at the top of the discussion section. Kinja instituted a self-censoring system on their comments sections for the deadspin/gawker/jezebel circuit after some early Cosby, early UVA rape articles were found to have too many 'triggering' comments.

Or can listen to this guy's summary.

**Rausch** · 05-13-2015, 02:05 AM

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Originally Posted by Baby Lee

Rausch, it took me all of 5 seconds, knowing where to look, to find a conversation emblematic of the contemporary discourse I'm referring to.

http://jezebel.com/since-when-did-ka...17488/+leshorn

Note: to get the full breadth of the comments click on 'all replies' and 'show pending' at the top of the discussion section. Kinja instituted a self-censoring system on their comments sections for the deadspin/gawker/jezebel circuit after some early Cosby, early UVA rape articles were found to have too many 'triggering' comments.

Or can listen to this guys' summary.

Other than proving Orlando Jones has range I'm not sure what your argument is...

**Baby Lee** · 05-13-2015, 02:10 AM

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Originally Posted by Rausch

Other than proving Orlando Jones has range I'm not sure what your argument is...

I'm not making an argument. I'm helping you with the Cliff's Notes you're working on.

**Rausch** · 05-13-2015, 02:19 AM

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Originally Posted by Baby Lee

I'm not making an argument. I'm helping you with the Cliff's Notes you're working on.

It's like talking to my ****ing mother here...

**Baby Lee** · 05-13-2015, 02:22 AM

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Originally Posted by Rausch

It's like talking to my ****ing mother here...

Haven't had the pleasure of her acquaintance, so I have no ****ing idea what that means. But it sounds like she has the patience of a saint.

**Rausch** · 05-13-2015, 02:27 AM

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Originally Posted by Baby Lee

Haven't had the pleasure of her acquaintance, so I have no ****ing idea what that means. But it sounds like she has the patience of a saint.

Rausch: Ok, so i'm here.

Mom: GREAT!

Rausch: So what do you want me to do? Help with concessions? Hand out stickers over there?

MOM: No silly, you're supposed to walk. You're supposed to get donations and walk.

Rausch: Yeah, I know, but you called me at the last minute and asked me to show up. You said you needed help.

MOM: Yeah, how many donations did you get?

Rausch: What?

MOM: It's ok. I know you don't have any money.

Rausch: No, it's NOT that. You did ask me to-

MOM: Just walk there over by the older red head.

Rausch: Next to the younger blonde?

MOM: Yeah! I'm sure you guys will hit it-

Rausch: I'm married. Almost 15 years now.

MOM: Oh, quit spoiling the moment...

**Baby Lee** · 05-13-2015, 02:39 AM

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Originally Posted by Rausch

Rausch: Ok, so i'm here.

I'm sensing you're trying to indicate confusion.

1. I'm still confused by what you meant by passive-aggressive racism. On whose part? Is it conscious or subconscious? What parts do your find passively aggressive?

2. By 'I'm not making an argument,' I meant that my providing a line of discussion was intended to show this thread the contemporary state of the discussion. I intended no specific conclusions or hypotheses to be derived from them.

ie, I'm saying 'this is what is being talked about [period, end of statement].' Not, 'this is what is being talked about, THEREFORE x,y,z.'

**Rausch** · 05-13-2015, 02:41 AM

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Originally Posted by Baby Lee

I'm sensing you're trying to indicate confusion.

1. I'm still confused by what you meant by passive-aggressive racism. On whose part? Is it conscious or subconscious? What parts do your find passively aggressive?

Yes...

**Baby Lee** · 05-13-2015, 02:41 AM

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Originally Posted by Rausch

Yes...

Yes, and? Or more directly, Yes what?

**Rausch** · 05-13-2015, 02:44 AM

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Originally Posted by Baby Lee

Today is all about microaggression, sidelong glances, co-opting culture without proper attribution or acknowledgement, impertinent questions [ie, what's with Beyonce?], paternalism/colonialism in one's tone, etc.

So, passive-aggressive racism?...

**Baby Lee** · 05-13-2015, 02:53 AM

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Originally Posted by Rausch

So, passive-aggressive racism?...

Well, now that we've demonstrated your fluency in passive-aggression, care to offer so much as a hint what you're talking about?

**Rausch** · 05-13-2015, 03:25 AM

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Originally Posted by Baby Lee

Well, now that we've demonstrated your fluency in passive-aggression, care to offer so much as a hint what you're talking about?

You don't think anything in the post quoted 2 down is passive aggressive?

I don't mean you, I mean what you're describing...

**Baby Lee** · 05-13-2015, 03:35 AM

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Originally Posted by Rausch

You don't think anything in the post quoted 2 down is passive aggressive?

I don't mean you, I mean what you're describing...

The word I'd use is ambiguous, hence my confusion with your assessment.

Do you mean the minorities complaining are passive-aggressively shaming white people for benign activities, or that white people are passive-aggressively demeaning minorities with their acts, consciously or otherwise?

Hence the question I posed earlier.

05-08-2015, 08:30 AM
gblowfish Be Kind To Your Pets Join Date: Jun 2002 Location: Glorious Independence, MO Casino cash: $17596178 VARSITY	The Clarks Love Money More than Vets Apologies if posted before, and maybe this ought to be in the DC section. Washington Post reports that the Federal Military has paid millions to the NFL to "salute" veterans. The Clarks took $250,000. So much for the NFL saluting soldiers out of the goodness of their hearts. The Chiefs don't need the money. They should send that cash back to the military to buy body armor for active service guys, so we wouldn't have so many "wounded warriors" to salute. This whole thing makes me more cynical than I already am, if that's even possible. Just salute veterans because its the right thing to do, and pick up the goddamn check. They put their lives on the line for us, it's the least a tax-exempt, multi-billion dollar enterprise like the NFL can do. I didn't get a harrrump outta that guy...... http://www.washingtonpost.com/blogs/...rss=rss_sports During timeouts at home games, the New York Jets air a Hometown Heroes segment in which a U.S. soldier or two are shown on the Jumbotron and everyone thanks them for their service. The soldiers and three friends get seats in the Coaches Club. It’s a nice salute. It’s also funded by U.S. taxpayers. According to Christopher Baxter and Jonathan D. Salant of New Jersey Advance Media, the Department of Defense paid 14 NFL teams $5.4 million from 2011 to 2014 for salutes like the Hometown Heroes segment and other advertising at professional football games. All but $100,000 of that money came from the National Guard. U.S. Sen. Jeff Flake (R-Ariz.) called the spending wasteful and disingenuous, Baxter and Salant report: “Those of us go to sporting events and see them honoring the heroes,” Flake said in an interview. “You get a good feeling in your heart. Then to find out they’re doing it because they’re compensated for it, it leaves you underwhelmed. It seems a little unseemly.” … “They realize the public believes they’re doing it as a public service or a sense of patriotism,” Flake said. “It leaves a bad taste in your mouth.” Flake added that he has no problem with the National Guard spending money on recruitment advertising at football games. “The problem, he said, was spending taxpayer money on a program that, on its face, appeared to be a generous gesture by a football team,” Baxter and Salant write. The story goes on to detail what the National Guard gets in return for its spending: Aside from the Hometown Heroes segment, the agreements also included advertising and marketing services, including a kickoff video message from the Guard, digital advertising on stadium screens, online advertising and meeting space for a meeting or events. Also, soldiers attended the annual kickoff lunch in New York City to meet and take pictures with the players for promotional use, and the Jets allowed soldiers to participate in a charity event in which coaches and players build or rebuild a playground or park. The Jets also provided game access passes. A National Guard spokesman said the agreement with the Jets helps promote and increase “the public’s understanding and appreciation of military service in the New Jersey Army National Guard increases the propensity for service in our ranks and garners public support for our Hometown Team.” A Jets spokesman says the team works with the National Guard just as it works with any other sponsor to tailor in-game advertising. According to the report, the Colts and Ravens are among the other teams that have similar agreements with the National Guard.
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