SI : Chiefs have a problem and his name is Dwayne Bowe

[pr_capone]

His performance so far this season has been underwhelming. He is in a position to clock in his worst performance in the NFL so far and is projecting to have 54 receptions for 586 yards w/6TD.

Is his problem that defenses are keying in on him... or is it that, as suggested by Greg Bedard, that Bowe has lost a step and is no longer a top tier WR?

http://mmqb.si.com/2013/10/11/greg-b...preview-notes/

6. The Chiefs will win a lot of games with their current formula: good defense that takes the ball away (15 times so far) and an offense that doesn’t turn it over (just five) for an NFL-leading plus-10 in giveaways/takeaways. But to beat the good teams, they’re going to have to start stretching the field. Defenses know QB Alex Smith is overly conservative, so they’re dropping a safety down and playing a lot of man. The Chiefs have a big problem with receiver Dwayne Bowe. Not sure what has happened to him, but he lacks explosion and can’t beat man coverage anymore. Defenses don’t fear him at all.

[BigMeatballDave]

Originally Posted by Pam Oliver's Forehead

I haven't seen him attempt one this season.

****ing Cassel could do it.

[Ace Gunner]

Originally Posted by Mr. Laz

wow ... you don't know a dam thing about football.

google is your friend asshat

FTR you really have few things football related to say that make real sense, this is another one of those posts for you.

a quick slant is not a "timing route". the reason we call them timing routes is because sometimes it involves a double move and some players run different, their breaks are different, so it requires a bit of known established timing to know exactly when to release the ball.

a quick slant doesn't require timing any more than a swing pass or any other short pass.

[Mr. Laz]

Originally Posted by Ace Gunner

google is your friend asshat

The QB makes a pre-snap read, takes a single step(1 1/2 technically, i guess) drop and throws the ball to a spot BEFORE the WR is open or has reached that spot.

TIMING

The WR can't just decide at the last second to change the route because the QB has already committed to the route.

Bowe made a mistake and you're wrong ... just let it go.

[mattschiefs]

Originally Posted by SNR

Calvin Johnson has shutout games all the time with Stafford.

You Smith haters and you're BS

He doesn't have 1 shutout game

pro-football-reference.com/players/J/JohnCa00/gamelog//

But go on throwing BS at the wall hoping that something sticks

[Contrarian]

Don't see an issue with Bowe. He'll get his in due time. Last game Titans were playing man and he still got it a few times and got one that was a break away that was called out of bounds. Bogus call IMO.

[Hammock Parties]

Originally Posted by BCD

****ing Cassel could do it.

Cassel had his issues but he was a decent intermediate passer in 2010. Alex has not reached that level of game manager yet.

[Sandy Vagina]

Originally Posted by Mr. Laz

The QB makes a pre-snap read, takes a single step(1 1/2 technically, i guess) drop and throws the ball to a spot BEFORE the WR is open or has reached that spot.

TIMING

The WR can't just decide at the last second to change the route because the QB has already committed to the route.

Bowe made a mistake and you're wrong ... just let it go.

yeah, really. The QB needs to get the ball out of his hand just as the WR makes his cut, ideally. This allows the WR to secure the pass and not get blasted by incoming DBs or LBs while exposed. This shouldn't be a mystery to avid football fans.

[Ace Gunner]

Originally Posted by Mr. Laz

The QB makes a pre-snap read, takes a single step(1 1/2 technically, i guess) drop and throws the ball to a spot BEFORE the WR is open or has reached that spot.

TIMING

The WR can't just decide at the last second to change the route because the QB has already committed to the route.

Bowe made a mistake and you're wrong ... just let it go.

nice refraction shithead. offensive football is all about timing but a quick slant is not a timing route. period. now humble your bullshit, shut it and I'll meet you later on something that actually makes sense.

[whoman69]

Andy Reid has said that Bowe is doing a much better job in blocking. Perhaps that has cut his energy level.

[Earthling]

Originally Posted by Pam Oliver's Forehead

Cassel had his issues but he was a decent intermediate passer in 2010. Alex has not reached that level of game manager yet.

Yep. Cassel managed to play a ton of shit games.

[Down4Chiefs]

Originally Posted by SNR

You know an all-time great NFL QB who threw a ton of picks?

Brett Favre. In fact, he's got the NFL record for most picks in a career.

You know an all-time great NFL QB whose best quality was not throwing INTs?

Umm..... Trent Dilfer? Shaun King? I guess?

Are we going to ignore qb's like Matt Ryan,Matt Schaub who can air it out but haven't won shit? And you guys can talk about Eli all you want to but they won at least one of the superbowls with ball control offense,and even though that defense was ranked horrible through the season they got great at the end and stopped the more elite tom brady lol.

Ball control offense,limited turnovers,strong defense,takeaways win superbowls. Alex Smith is perfectly suited to run a ball control offense which is all we need. Eli is better suited to be a game manager himself,you have to love his big play ability. But at the same time you have to love alex smith not turning the ball over. You'd like to see him throw it long more but its not neccesary if he can keep the ball moving with short passes unless jamal charles becomes a non factor. And even then when you have a defense who gets takeaways like ours and can score points off turnovers its even more irrelevant lol. You have to be excited about this team if you look at recent history how superbowls are won,most of the ingredients are there.

I'm more worried about us being unbalanced under Alexs limitations,we should focus running the ball more early since the qb doesn't stretch the field vertically. If we had a eli we could stretch the field vertically first to set up the run. But Jamal hasn't shown he's needed any assistance from the qb to stretch the field for him to get his so far in his career,he just needs to get his rhythm. Alex smith on the other hand I think has shown running to set up the pass will increase his ability.

[chiefzilla1501]

Originally Posted by O.city

So again, if I have to have a qb have to things to be successful, I can't afford to pay him that much, because it hamstrings what else I can put around him.

Because unlike players like Peyton and Rodgers and Brees, Eli and Flacco are QBs who are going to make your other players shine. And they do it in ways that other players can't.

Again, if I had to pick my QB for the current Chiefs, it wouldn't be Rodgers or Peyton. It would be Eli or Flacco. I don't care if I get drilled for saying that. Efficient QBs are WILDLY underrated in this league.

And no, you don't have to surround these guys with elite players. You have to have a good RB, and a solid defense. Yeah, if your front office is filled with buffoons that can't do that, then go with a guy like Peyton and make him win in spite of horrible talent. But if you have a halfway decent front office, then put an elite game manager on your team and you'll have a very competitive team.

[mattschiefs]

Originally Posted by Down4Chiefs

Are we going to ignore qb's like Matt Ryan,Matt Schaub who can air it out but haven't won shit? And you guys can talk about Eli all you want to but they won at least one of the superbowls with ball control offense,and even though that defense was ranked horrible through the season they got great at the end and stopped the more elite tom brady lol.

Ball control offense,limited turnovers,strong defense,takeaways win superbowls. Alex Smith is perfectly suited to run a ball control offense which is all we need. Eli is better suited to be a game manager himself,you have to love his big play ability. But at the same time you have to love alex smith not turning the ball over. You'd like to see him throw it long more but its not neccesary if he can keep the ball moving with short passes unless jamal charles becomes a non factor. And even then when you have a defense who gets takeaways like ours and can score points off turnovers its even more irrelevant lol. You have to be excited about this team if you look at recent history how superbowls are won,most of the ingredients are there.

I'm more worried about us being unbalanced under Alexs limitations,we should focus running the ball more early since the qb doesn't stretch the field vertically. If we had a eli we could stretch the field vertically first to set up the run. But Jamal hasn't shown he's needed any assistance from the qb to stretch the field for him to get his so far in his career,he just needs to get his rhythm. Alex smith on the other hand I think has shown running to set up the pass will increase his ability.

It'll be a team that does that ball control offense that beats Denver. That's what it's going to take. It's how this team beat the Packers in 2011. If you control the football then you have control of the game. That's the plus to this offense. They control the football.

[Baby Lee]

Originally Posted by pr_capone

I care. Lucky socks are bound to get thrown in the laundry at some point.

I'm thrilled that the D is carrying the team and ST is doing more than their fair share. Eventually, though, its gonna come down to Alex Smith taking this team down the field whether they want to or not. I don't know he can do that.

Fair enough, as stated.

Too many others are CERTAIN he can't, or will absolutely need to at the very moment we face elimination. And in that certainty, they shit in the swimming pool, incessantly, daily, hourly, with insults and vitriol to boot, while most of us would like to enjoy a nice day.

[SAUTO]

Originally Posted by Mac-NinersChiefs

It is my honest opinion that Bowe doesn't give high effort on many plays. Just an observation, and that observation alone isn't related to the defense of the QB. It isn't an observation related to the number of targets Bowe gets. You are stretching this to be about an agenda.. and it isn't.

bullshit. you have made every excuse in he book for alex