Chiefs Thoughts on Pre-Season Game #1 - Page 19

**petegz28** · 08-10-2012, 09:14 PM

Well, how would you break it down?

Mr. Laz · 08-11-2012, 08:47 AM

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Originally Posted by mdchiefsfan

You have to admit that getting ball in space as a slot receiver is him doing his job correctly.

That's just it.

As a running back, DMC needed to be able to make people missed.

As a slot receiver, he can use his quickness to get into open space and let the route get him to the right place.

McCluster needs to succeed as a receiver

Great Expectations · 08-11-2012, 08:49 AM

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Originally Posted by Direckshun

The second string didn't look too bad. But Stephenson showed some flashes and some crap.

That was his standard play at OU. He is a very frustrating player. At times while at OU he appeared disinterested. He is another workout warrior, maybe it will suddenly click for him. Money might be what finally motivates him to become consistently good.

Mr. Laz · 08-11-2012, 08:49 AM

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Originally Posted by DBOSHO

How do we feel about poes performance?

a lot of people are happy but i didn't like it

He looked slow and tentative ... lacked energy.

Powe looked a ton better.

BUT ........ it's the rooks 1st game and he was probably nervous as hell.

give him time

beach tribe · 08-11-2012, 08:51 AM

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Originally Posted by petegz28

The announcers said, well Trent Gree I do believe said several times tonight that Cassel was not allowed to check out of plays under Haley. I'm sure Green feels for him as he himself was not allowed to check out of plays under Saunder, remember the Philly game? He was going off on the sidelines after a bunk play because he was not allowed to audible. Anyhow, that's what he said tonight, that's what I had always speculated.

Cassel checked out of a half dozen plays or so against Seattle in 2010

Mr. Laz · 08-11-2012, 08:53 AM

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Originally Posted by beach tribe

Cassel checked out of a half dozen plays or so against Seattle in 2010

2010 would be under Weis

**petegz28** · 08-11-2012, 08:57 AM

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Originally Posted by beach tribe

Cassel checked out of a half dozen plays or so against Seattle in 2010

That was under Weis

oldman · 08-11-2012, 08:58 AM

Boss and Winston just flat out owned the Cards D on that long Hillis run. It was a thing of beauty. Of the 2 backup QBs, I thought Stanzi was a litle better. I'd like to see what he can do with the 2s. I think Maneri is the real deal at TE. Much better than Jake. Both #1 lines looked great. I thought Poe did well on passing downs. He was drawing a double just about every time and was getting some push. He was drawing a lot of doubles on the run, but he still needs work. Powe looked like he realizes he needs to step up to stay employed.

aturnis · 08-11-2012, 08:59 AM

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Originally Posted by Laz

That's just it.

As a running back, DMC needed to be able to make people missed.

As a slot receiver, he can use his quickness to get into open space and let the route get him to the right place.

McCluster needs to succeed as a receiver

I think his weakness as a receiver in the past was due to what they had him doing. Either a quick hit at the line, or a 5 yard curl. Both of those routes force him to stop, and gave them defender time to recover and get a bead on him while the ball was in the air. As soon as he'd turn upfield a lot of times, he was hit before he knew it, resulting in either a loss, short gain, or blow up fumble. If it wasn't that, he was slowing up or stopping to catch balls thrown behind him, or just took too long to get to him.

He needs the ball in space, but also in stride to take full advantage of his ability.

Mr. Laz · 08-11-2012, 09:01 AM

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Originally Posted by aturnis

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I think his weakness as a receiver in the past was due to what they had him doing. Either a quick hit at the line, or a 5 yard curl. Both of those routes force him to stop, and gave them defender time to recover and get a bead on him while the ball was in the air. As soon as he'd turn upfield a lot of times, he was hit before he knew it, resulting in either a loss, short gain, or blow up fumble. If it wasn't that, he was slowing up or stopping to catch balls thrown behind him, or just took too long to get to him.

He needs the ball in space, but also in stride to take full advantage of his ability.

hopefully better coaching will improve everyone

**petegz28** · 08-11-2012, 09:02 AM

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Originally Posted by mikey23545

Hillis:

“It was a good call by Coach Daboll down there on the 11,” Hillis said. “It looked like zero coverage and my guy blitzed and the defensive end didn’t peel on me. I knew as soon as he blitzed that I was going to be wide open. Matt threw me the ball and it was an easy touchdown. Matt had a good read on it.”

Well, I was hoping it was a play Cassel checked into but nonetheless it was a good play all the way around.

aturnis · 08-11-2012, 09:03 AM

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Originally Posted by Laz

a lot of people are happy but i didn't like it

He looked slow and tentative ... lacked energy.

Powe looked a ton better.

BUT ........ it's the rooks 1st game and he was probably nervous as hell.

give him time

Poe played with the first, second and third strings I believe. A lot more than most seem to realize. When Powe came in and impressed, he was fresh. Not saying he isn't better at this point, but he has a year under his belt. I would agree Poe looked a bit gassed towards the end, and more or less leaned on guys as a result and lost his hands, but give him time.

WilliamTheIrish · 08-11-2012, 09:05 AM

1st game against an opponent that went from AZ to Canton to St. Joe.

The Cards looked like a team that hadn't been home in 10 days. I don't know if they are that bad or if the Chiefs looked that good. Probably somewhere in between. I did like the line play. Still, it's a team that will go only as far as the QB's talent will take them.

So Cassel couldn't check off at the line? BFD. He was put in a very tough situation last season? True, but that's not an excuse that will wash with me. He's paid handsomely to perform without regard to "the situation".

Some of the comparisons itt are hilarious. Hillis and Riggins? Riggins on a fly route down the middle?

aturnis · 08-11-2012, 09:05 AM

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Originally Posted by Laz

hopefully better coaching will improve everyone

I was a huge Haley supporter, I liked his no bullshit, hard nosed approach, and what it did for some of our players, but I am starting to see more of his faults...

aturnis · 08-11-2012, 09:08 AM

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Originally Posted by petegz28

Well, I was hoping it was a play Cassel checked into but nonetheless it was a good play all the way around.

What jsp said is exactly right. You can make that read if you have anything to experience playing Madden. Also, the blitz worked heavily in his favorite making his decision easier along with his throw to the free receiver...

O.city · 08-11-2012, 09:10 AM

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Originally Posted by aturnis

I was a huge Haley supporter, I liked his no bullshit, hard nosed approach, and what it did for some of our players, but I am starting to see more of his faults...

I think Haley just showed that, in the NFL screaming runs its course. I think guys tuned him out. He just wasn't prepared for what was put on him. I tend to put more of that on the FO for hiring him. He tried to do too much.

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oldman Curmudgeon Join Date: Dec 2011 Location: North by Northwest Casino cash: $5836784	Boss and Winston just flat out owned the Cards D on that long Hillis run. It was a thing of beauty. Of the 2 backup QBs, I thought Stanzi was a litle better. I'd like to see what he can do with the 2s. I think Maneri is the real deal at TE. Much better than Jake. Both #1 lines looked great. I thought Poe did well on passing downs. He was drawing a double just about every time and was getting some push. He was drawing a lot of doubles on the run, but he still needs work. Powe looked like he realizes he needs to step up to stay employed.
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08-11-2012, 09:05 AM	#282
WilliamTheIrish Champion Golfer Of The Year Join Date: Aug 2001 Casino cash: $5770607	1st game against an opponent that went from AZ to Canton to St. Joe. The Cards looked like a team that hadn't been home in 10 days. I don't know if they are that bad or if the Chiefs looked that good. Probably somewhere in between. I did like the line play. Still, it's a team that will go only as far as the QB's talent will take them. So Cassel couldn't check off at the line? BFD. He was put in a very tough situation last season? True, but that's not an excuse that will wash with me. He's paid handsomely to perform without regard to "the situation". Some of the comparisons itt are hilarious. Hillis and Riggins? Riggins on a fly route down the middle?
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