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Old 04-21-2016, 08:19 AM   #1
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I agree about Spader. The only reason this show separates itself from all the other BS on TV is Spader.

The whining Elizabeth turned a lot of people off. Like in Homeland with the teenage daughter whining all the time. Who wants to watch people whining all the time?

I don't see a non-Spader spinoff show being worth watching. I understand NBC's motives, they are desperate for hit shows.
I agree. Spader is an 11.

Famke Janssen is supposed to be the other lead. I really like the Solomon character. He could have had potential for being a quality antagonist to Red. Similar circumstance - before the Kabal turned on him, and now a FA with equal resources and contacts.

As for Liz, I don’t think NBC knows because the actress has expressed wanting to leave the show to be with her newborn. They have obviously left the plot open to her death being faked since it is the only thing that would stop them coming after her. So, she may be gone, or on extended hiatus.
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Old 04-21-2016, 09:41 AM   #2
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also....it's been revealed that Liz shot her father.
while I understand that Red could be her biological....that just seems to obvious.
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Old 05-06-2016, 02:47 PM   #3
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anybody still watching?
this is still one of my fav shows.

is Scottie Hargrave actually Katarina Rostova.....Liz's mother?
I thought we'd eventually find this to be true. but then she was so clinical and unemotional discussing here passing. but then she's a cold blooded killer.....

I LOOOOOOVED Scotties negotiation technique!
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Old 05-06-2016, 03:17 PM   #4
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is Scottie Hargrave actually Katarina Rostova.....Liz's mother?
I thought we'd eventually find this to be true. but then she was so clinical and unemotional discussing here passing. but then she's a cold blooded killer.....

I LOOOOOOVED Scotties negotiation technique!
I don't think so. Too obvious.
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Old 05-16-2016, 03:35 PM   #5
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Well, that was different. But somehow not.

Love Red going on a tear, but the Tom sideshow doesn't hold much appeal for me. Especially with Mommy seeming to have a thing for him.
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Old 05-20-2016, 12:19 AM   #6
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So, uh yeah. Hey there Liz's dad.
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Old 05-20-2016, 08:36 PM   #7
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It was just too obvious. Told a friend of mine after her "death", she wasn't really dead, the old gal helped her and stashed her in another country until she could be reunited with Tom and the baby. I didn't think it was going to take all season to for them to bring her back though.
I'm getting tired of the main story line being about someone trying to kill her. They should just change the name from "The Blacklist" to "Someone Kill Da Bitch".
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Old 05-23-2016, 05:29 PM   #8
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It was just too obvious. Told a friend of mine after her "death", she wasn't really dead, the old gal helped her and stashed her in another country until she could be reunited with Tom and the baby. I didn't think it was going to take all season to for them to bring her back though.
I'm getting tired of the main story line being about someone trying to kill her. They should just change the name from "The Blacklist" to "Someone Kill Da Bitch".
I gotta agree with this. I am so tired of Liz on the run. Hell, that's all it's been for the last 2 years. I really enjoyed this show; it was my favorite for the first year or two when Red and Liz were working together. Now I'm not even looking forward to next season. Please return to the early Liz and Red dynamics.
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Old 05-23-2016, 06:54 PM   #9
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I gotta agree with this. I am so tired of Liz on the run. Hell, that's all it's been for the last 2 years. I really enjoyed this show; it was my favorite for the first year or two when Red and Liz were working together. Now I'm not even looking forward to next season. Please return to the early Liz and Red dynamics.
Pretty sure that is the direction it's going back to - which is why Red is pushing for Liz to get a Presidential pardon. Then she can be an FBI agent again...
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Pretty sure that is the direction it's going back to - which is why Red is pushing for Liz to get a Presidential pardon. Then she can be an FBI agent again...
I thought she was going off with the Tom spin off?
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I thought she was going off with the Tom spin off?
Afik, Tom and Famke are on the new show with the merc black chick. Also, I wouldn't be surprised if Solomon pops up on the spinoff. They never actually showed him dead, and 5-0 was immediately on scene, so it's not beyond reasonable he could have been stabilized and recovered...

*just my little theory, probably in part because I like the character.
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It was just too obvious. Told a friend of mine after her "death", she wasn't really dead, the old gal helped her and stashed her in another country until she could be reunited with Tom and the baby. I didn't think it was going to take all season to for them to bring her back though.
I'm getting tired of the main story line being about someone trying to kill her. They should just change the name from "The Blacklist" to "Someone Kill Da Bitch".
I never bought the death. When she was alone with the old gal and they talked, I figured something was up. When she got the body by herself, I thought the TV/Movie drug that slows your heart to make you appear dead.

Also the Kirk guy won't be the Dad. He may think he is but the Mom was having an affair. Hopefully not with Spader. We need to have something more complex than hey Spader is your Dad as the reason he cared so much for her.
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I never bought the death. When she was alone with the old gal and they talked, I figured something was up. When she got the body by herself, I thought the TV/Movie drug that slows your heart to make you appear dead.

Also the Kirk guy won't be the Dad. He may think he is but the Mom was having an affair. Hopefully not with Spader. We need to have something more complex than hey Spader is your Dad as the reason he cared so much for her.
I agree, thats just too simple.
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OK...so Scottie is Tom's dad.

Alex...no freaking way he's Liz's dad. I figured her dad would never be revealed to be Red as it's just too obvious....but now I'm not so sure. it ain't Alex though.

maybe Tom and Liz will end up being half siblings...sharing Red as a father and the child will end up having inbred issues?
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I don't really think the writers of this show had planned this whole baby thing.
Liz getting preg in real life forced their hand into writing it out the way it is.

Kinda sucks due to how well the show started off.

Thanks to Spader, I will keep watching.
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