Misc What is your stance on aliens? - Page 19

**Dave Lane** · 06-07-2015, 08:24 AM

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Originally Posted by keg in kc

Hollywood has almost exclusively portrayed aliens as hominoid or humanoid. I think that's part of the issue: popular thought reflects the idea of life as we know it. Same issue that religion has in trying to make a truly alien concept like a deity think and act human, as if we could understand its actions and motives. Human nature. I get that. Of course we're in God's image. Of course extraterrestrial life would be just like us. That's what we're trained to believe, at least in the west. Humans are special. The center of everything. Whereas I think it's possible if not likely that life exists in a myriad of forms, forms we might not even recognize as even being life. As we know it.

No arrogance there. None at all.

frankotank · 06-10-2015, 07:49 AM

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Originally Posted by keg in kc

Hollywood has almost exclusively portrayed aliens as hominoid or humanoid. I think that's part of the issue: popular thought reflects the idea of life as we know it. Same issue that religion has in trying to make a truly alien concept like a deity think and act human, as if we could understand its actions and motives. Human nature. I get that. Of course we're in God's image. Of course extraterrestrial life would be just like us. That's what we're trained to believe, at least in the west. Humans are special. The center of everything. Whereas I think it's possible if not likely that life exists in a myriad of forms, forms we might not even recognize as even being life. As we know it.

I've asked this questions many times.....what does that mean? what does "in God's image" really mean?? two arms, two legs, one head? God can't be white and black and hispanic. so what does "in his image" mean. and what if a day to God is a billion years. if so....then evolution and the bible may not be so much at odds.
and....nowhere in the bible does it say He made only us. maybe he made some green dudes somewhere else....

**loochy** · 06-10-2015, 07:52 AM

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Originally Posted by frankotank

I've asked this questions many times.....what does that mean? what does "in God's image" really mean?? two arms, two legs, one head? God can't be white and black and hispanic. so what does "in his image" mean. and what if a day to God is a billion years. if so....then evolution and the bible may not be so much at odds.
and....nowhere in the bible does it say He made only us. maybe he made some green dudes somewhere else....

What if "in God's image" means "carbon based"?

What if it means "made out of cells"?

What if it means "about 6 feet tall and 160 lbs"?

frankotank · 06-10-2015, 12:06 PM

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Originally Posted by loochy

What if it means "about 6 feet tall and 160 lbs"?

then I don't have a weight problem......I'm just simply not human!

**srvy** · 06-10-2015, 08:03 AM

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Originally Posted by frankotank

I've asked this questions many times.....what does that mean? what does "in God's image" really mean?? two arms, two legs, one head? God can't be white and black and hispanic. so what does "in his image" mean. and what if a day to God is a billion years. if so....then evolution and the bible may not be so much at odds.
and....nowhere in the bible does it say He made only us. maybe he made some green dudes somewhere else....

Only Brainiac can answer these questions.

BucEyedPea · 06-06-2015, 05:46 PM

Weird, that I just saw that program on H2 about Corso the other night since this thread.

**Dave Lane** · 06-07-2015, 08:22 AM

It's so ****ing funny Corso is such a ****ing clown. I wonder if he had brain damage from combat or was just interested in making headlines and $ from the sheepies.

Just to check, I googled every alien technology he claimed he seeded to "industry" and all of them were already invented before Roswell. Transistor since the 20s, fiber optics in the 1880s, the IC "chip" in its earliest form was just a few transistors on a tiny board.

It's an insult to the inventors of those technologies to try to pawn this off to alien technologies. I'm not sure how uneducated you would have to be to believe in absurd claims like his without ever checking them.

MMXcalibur · 06-07-2015, 08:55 AM

Oh, they're real.

'Hamas' Jenkins · 06-07-2015, 09:02 AM

Organic material in comets plus the Drake equation leads me to believe it is highly, highly likely that there are other advanced lifeforms both within this galaxy and others.

GloucesterChief · 06-07-2015, 09:21 AM

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Originally Posted by 'Hamas' Jenkins

Organic material in comets plus the Drake equation leads me to believe it is highly, highly likely that there are other advanced lifeforms both within this galaxy and others.

Considering how big the universe is. Even with extremely low odds there has to be life on other planets, just by the sheer number of planets.

Now, if this life is intelligent and if it is intelligent is it reachable even for communication is another questions all together.

'Hamas' Jenkins · 06-07-2015, 01:11 PM

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Originally Posted by GloucesterChief

Considering how big the universe is. Even with extremely low odds there has to be life on other planets, just by the sheer number of planets.

Now, if this life is intelligent and if it is intelligent is it reachable even for communication is another questions all together.

The Drake equation is meant to ascertain the probability of advanced civilizations.

Lex Luthor · 06-07-2015, 11:29 AM

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Originally Posted by 'Hamas' Jenkins

Organic material in comets plus the Drake equation leads me to believe it is highly, highly likely that there are other advanced lifeforms both within this galaxy and others.

I completely agree with this. Considering that there are over 300 billion stars in the Milky Way galaxy alone, and there are an estimated 100 billion galaxies in the observable universe, it's ridiculous for anyone to think that advanced lifeforms evolved only on one planet.

Of course, whether or not any of these other life forms have managed to travel to earth is an entirely different proposition altogether. I see no reason to think that they wouldn't. But if they do, it's pretty unlikely that they'd choose to hide in shadows, kidnap an earthling every now and then for some anal probing, and reveal themselves only to a select few.

That's why I mock and ridicule anyone who insists that a few unexplained lights in the sky are definitive proof that aliens have arrived. Any reasonable person would require a helluva lot more proof than that. Show me a living alien and I'll be on board. Show me a dead alien or a space ship, and I'll be on board. But don't point to some lights in the sky that move in a way you don't understand and claim it's proof of aliens. It isn't.

By the way, this rant isn't directed at Hamas. It's directed at guys who are impressed by light shows and the utterances of government officials. We have a couple of those in this thread.

**Easy 6** · 06-07-2015, 01:43 PM

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Originally Posted by Brainiac

I completely agree with this. Considering that there are over 300 billion stars in the Milky Way galaxy alone, and there are an estimated 100 billion galaxies in the observable universe, it's ridiculous for anyone to think that advanced lifeforms evolved only on one planet.

Of course, whether or not any of these other life forms have managed to travel to earth is an entirely different proposition altogether. I see no reason to think that they wouldn't. But if they do, it's pretty unlikely that they'd choose to hide in shadows, kidnap an earthling every now and then for some anal probing, and reveal themselves only to a select few.

That's why I mock and ridicule anyone who insists that a few unexplained lights in the sky are definitive proof that aliens have arrived. Any reasonable person would require a helluva lot more proof than that. Show me a living alien and I'll be on board. Show me a dead alien or a space ship, and I'll be on board. But don't point to some lights in the sky that move in a way you don't understand and claim it's proof of aliens. It isn't.

By the way, this rant isn't directed at Hamas. It's directed at guys who are impressed by light shows and the utterances of government officials. We have a couple of those in this thread.

Go **** yourself, dipshit.

Lex Luthor · 06-07-2015, 03:05 PM

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Originally Posted by Easy 6

Go **** yourself, dipshit.

LOL, It looks like I struck a nerve.

stevieray · 06-07-2015, 03:45 PM

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Originally Posted by Brainiac

LOL, It looks like I struck a nerve.

Ya, that's exactly what it is....couldn't be your pleasant demeanor.

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06-06-2015, 05:46 PM	#6
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06-07-2015, 08:22 AM	#7
Dave Lane Space Cadet and Aczabel Join Date: Aug 2000 Location: Kanab, UT, USA Casino cash: $9333275 VARSITY	It's so **ing funny Corso is such a **ing clown. I wonder if he had brain damage from combat or was just interested in making headlines and $ from the sheepies. Just to check, I googled every alien technology he claimed he seeded to "industry" and all of them were already invented before Roswell. Transistor since the 20s, fiber optics in the 1880s, the IC "chip" in its earliest form was just a few transistors on a tiny board. It's an insult to the inventors of those technologies to try to pawn this off to alien technologies. I'm not sure how uneducated you would have to be to believe in absurd claims like his without ever checking them. __________________ Thanks, Trump for the civics lesson. We are learning so much about RICO, espionage, sedition, impeachment, the 25th Amendment, order of succession, nepotism, separation of powers, 1st Amendment, obstruction of justice, the emoluments clause, conflicts of interest, collusion, sanctions, oligarchs, money laundering and so much more.
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06-07-2015, 09:02 AM	#9
'Hamas' Jenkins Now you've pissed me off! Join Date: Jan 2006 Casino cash: $7919572	Organic material in comets plus the Drake equation leads me to believe it is highly, highly likely that there are other advanced lifeforms both within this galaxy and others.
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