Other Sports Off Season Lets Talk Guns, Part 2 - Page 184

HonestChieffan · 05:52 PM

Been a while since we had a guns n' ammo discussion.

Some of you are AR shooters Im sure. Im looking at a Colt 6920. Will be my first AR. Picked up a Glock this fall and really enjoy shooting it. Any feedback on that weapon?

Anyone else been in a buy/sell/trade mood with hardware?

LiveSteam · 05-14-2020, 08:32 PM

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Originally Posted by Chief Roundup

Alright those of you that have ran lots of rounds through your pistols/guns.
So I have been hearing and reading about why Aluminum, Steel and Nickel cased rounds are bad for your weapon.
I want more opinions just to verify my belief that this stuff is pretty much bunk. I like the idea of Brass the best but with Ammo hard to come by and I don't plan on reloading it don't see why these are really bad for my Glock.
Opinions and experiences please and thanks in advance.

If your shooting old imported ammo. And trust me, their is still plenty of it on earth. You have to make sure its not corrosive primered ammo.

Most modern ammunition is not corrosive, but old military surplus ammo is different. For surplus ammunition, there are two main types of primers: Berdan and Boxer. Boxer-primed ammunition is not corrosive, so you don’t have to worry about it. Not all Berdan is corrosive, but almost all of the surplus ammunition you find on the market with Berdan primers is corrosive.
Boxer Primed. Is stamped on the box.

Then you get into steel lacquered ammo. To prevent rust. A no no in top of the line mil spec AR-15s

LiveSteam · 05-14-2020, 08:37 PM

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Originally Posted by Pointer19

https://www.sportsmans.com/shooting-...otgun/p/p48932

The Maverick is Mossberg's more affordable model if you're interested.. Roughly $200 for a Mossberg-branded shotgun. My buddy has one and - while it feels kind of rickety - it's stood up to hundreds of shells so far.

I for got all about the Mav. Moss example of a affordable yet practical Tac-ta-cool shotgun.

**Perineum Ripper** · 05-14-2020, 08:38 PM

The issue with steel casings are they normally have a rust prevention coating, and the buildup of that coating causes issues. The actual case won’t matter to your weapons and you will wear rifling out of your barrel before casings do any damage to your rifle.

LiveSteam · 05-14-2020, 08:41 PM

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Originally Posted by 2112

Question: I have a 12 gauge Browning A-5 shotgun (1956 Belgium). It’s in Very good condition. Should I keep it as a collectors item and hand it down to somebody? I’d have no idea how much it’s worth. Any ideas on what it could go for?

Thats the Holy Grail of shotguns.
And command Ks not honeys

LiveSteam · 05-14-2020, 08:47 PM

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Originally Posted by 2112

The prices are all over the place on there lol

Different serial numbers will up the price or lower the price.
Edit. Man prices are all over the place.

Chief Roundup · 05-14-2020, 09:02 PM

Just ordered some 50 Round Box - 9mm Luger 147 Grain JHP Hollow Point Prvi Partizan Defense Line Ammo - PPD92
Again from SGAmmo.

Delaney37 · 05-14-2020, 10:19 PM

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Originally Posted by Easy 6

What can you guys tell me about HR brand shotguns?

Been looking to add one as a home defense weapon and occasional bird gun, I know bird guns are different, but just want one to take when my bird crazy buddy asks me to go with him

Looked at a 12 gauge pump model with a field length barrel for $250, which is super affordable... would I be better off getting a Remington in the same gauge for $379?

Mossberg 500 has a security/field model. Usually retails around $350 if you can find one right now.

https://www.mossberg.com/product/500...ecurity-54169/

**srvy** · 05-15-2020, 04:56 PM

Remington 870 is rock solid and easy to disassemble and repair. Dont take my word for it but Field and Stream has high praise along with just about everyone.

"Remington 870_ _Produced: 1950--present

If you think of a gun as nothing but a tool, then the 870 is the greatest shotgun ever made. It is the Gun That Works, and if it doesn’t, it disassembles to the molecular level in a few minutes, and whatever ails it can quickly be put right. With its stamped parts and pressed checkering, the 870 sold for much less than the Winchester Model 12, the Ithaca 37, and the Model 31 it replaced. Though inexpensive, the 870 is every bit as reliable and durable as its costlier competitors. It has gone on to become the best-selling shotgun of all time."

This is the one id go with hands down.

**Shiver Me Timbers** · 05-15-2020, 05:14 PM

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Originally Posted by srvy

Remington 870 is rock solid and easy to disassemble and repair. Dont take my word for it but Field and Stream has high praise along with just about everyone.

"Remington 870_ _Produced: 1950--present

If you think of a gun as nothing but a tool, then the 870 is the greatest shotgun ever made. It is the Gun That Works, and if it doesn’t, it disassembles to the molecular level in a few minutes, and whatever ails it can quickly be put right. With its stamped parts and pressed checkering, the 870 sold for much less than the Winchester Model 12, the Ithaca 37, and the Model 31 it replaced. Though inexpensive, the 870 is every bit as reliable and durable as its costlier competitors. It has gone on to become the best-selling shotgun of all time."

This is the one id go with hands down.

Agree
Economical
Dependable
And Serviceable (even by a someone like me)
I have 2 sons so there are 3 in our house for bird huntin' or whatever.........

LiveSteam · 05-15-2020, 07:34 PM

Both are great pumps. Both have dual action rods that help keep the forearm pump from twisting when cycling.
The 870s receiver is milled steel where the 500 is aluminum. The 500 has 2 extractors where the 870 has just 1. The 500 has the Moss's patented anti jam elevator.

Id take either one to the muddiest of battle fields.

LiveSteam · 05-15-2020, 07:41 PM

And Mossberg tweaked the shell stop on the 500s that are in 410. So the 500 series 410s no longer dump the live shells on the ground when pumping the action.
A real problem for the Moss 500 in 410 when using 3 inch mags. Who isnt gonna use a 3 inch mag when hunting with a 410?
Which is my go to shotgun for most upland birds.

And Moss gives it free of charge and shipping. Just have your 410s serial numbers ready. Moss customer service will ask for them

ljmhawk · 05-17-2020, 03:09 PM

trying to find a new Walther ppq m2 but cabela’s, scheels, frontier justice and gun garage have none in stock. the 4” model is tough to find

Frazod · 05-17-2020, 05:43 PM

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Originally Posted by ljmhawk

trying to find a new Walther ppq m2 but cabela’s, scheels, frontier justice and gun garage have none in stock. the 4” model is tough to find

Not surprising. It's a great ****ing gun. I have one in .45 and love it.

Delaney37 · 05-17-2020, 06:23 PM

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Originally Posted by ljmhawk

trying to find a new Walther ppq m2 but cabela’s, scheels, frontier justice and gun garage have none in stock. the 4” model is tough to find

Have you checked buds gun shop? Integrity Pawn in Topeka is an approved FFL for them. Ordered an AR doing this and had it in my hands in 10 days.

Randallflagg · 05-17-2020, 06:42 PM

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Originally Posted by ljmhawk

trying to find a new Walther ppq m2 but cabela’s, scheels, frontier justice and gun garage have none in stock. the 4” model is tough to find

https://www.basspro.com/shop/en/Walt...mi-Auto-Pistol

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05-15-2020, 04:56 PM	#2753
srvy Fight, build, win! Join Date: Sep 2004 Location: KC Casino cash: $1101250	Remington 870 is rock solid and easy to disassemble and repair. Dont take my word for it but Field and Stream has high praise along with just about everyone. "Remington 870_ _Produced: 1950--present If you think of a gun as nothing but a tool, then the 870 is the greatest shotgun ever made. It is the Gun That Works, and if it doesn’t, it disassembles to the molecular level in a few minutes, and whatever ails it can quickly be put right. With its stamped parts and pressed checkering, the 870 sold for much less than the Winchester Model 12, the Ithaca 37, and the Model 31 it replaced. Though inexpensive, the 870 is every bit as reliable and durable as its costlier competitors. It has gone on to become the best-selling shotgun of all time." This is the one id go with hands down. __________________ "The victim stance is a powerful one. The victim is always morally right, neither responsible nor accountable, and forever entitled to sympathy."
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LiveSteam The Constitutional Choo choo Join Date: Dec 2009 Location: homeof43conferencetitles Casino cash: $1645432	Both are great pumps. Both have dual action rods that help keep the forearm pump from twisting when cycling. The 870s receiver is milled steel where the 500 is aluminum. The 500 has 2 extractors where the 870 has just 1. The 500 has the Moss's patented anti jam elevator. Id take either one to the muddiest of battle fields. __________________ Progressivism.. The Politically Correct way of saying "I'm a Communist slash Nazi" depending on what the issue of the day is?
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05-15-2020, 07:41 PM	#2756
LiveSteam The Constitutional Choo choo Join Date: Dec 2009 Location: homeof43conferencetitles Casino cash: $1645432	And Mossberg tweaked the shell stop on the 500s that are in 410. So the 500 series 410s no longer dump the live shells on the ground when pumping the action. A real problem for the Moss 500 in 410 when using 3 inch mags. Who isnt gonna use a 3 inch mag when hunting with a 410? Which is my go to shotgun for most upland birds. And Moss gives it free of charge and shipping. Just have your 410s serial numbers ready. Moss customer service will ask for them __________________ Progressivism.. The Politically Correct way of saying "I'm a Communist slash Nazi" depending on what the issue of the day is?
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05-17-2020, 03:09 PM	#2757
ljmhawk Veteran Join Date: Jan 2019 Casino cash: $5980400	trying to find a new Walther ppq m2 but cabela’s, scheels, frontier justice and gun garage have none in stock. the 4” model is tough to find
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