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06-18-2017, 08:06 PM | #2687 | |
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06-18-2017, 08:26 PM | #2688 |
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Shaun Livingston and Iguodala as the #5 and #6 guys are significantly better than any player Cleveland has outside of Love, LeBron, and Irving. They are incredibly valuable to what the Warriors do.
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06-18-2017, 08:27 PM | #2689 | |
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06-18-2017, 08:33 PM | #2690 | |
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The biggest difference in the warriors vs Cavs is that the warriors have an actual system that they all play within and no player is bigger than the system. The Cavs system is LeBron James. When he's on the bench, theyre literally lost. And you can blame that on James. Blatt tried to implement a system that wasn't overly reliant on LeBron. He didn't like it and got Blatt fired and got a coach hired that has no idea wtf he's doing. Posted via Mobile Device |
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06-18-2017, 08:33 PM | #2691 |
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Argue about the bench, that's fine. I have no problem with that. I do have a problem with those that say Green is the reason GS is superior.
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06-18-2017, 08:38 PM | #2692 |
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Imagine if Korver was on the warriors. I can't imagine how much people would complain about that.
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06-18-2017, 08:43 PM | #2693 | |
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06-18-2017, 09:33 PM | #2694 |
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The Cavs have maybe a year or 2 before their window self destructs no matter what. They can't improve themselves any other way because they dont have trade chips, draft picks, or any money the next few years. And lebron won't carry the team the same way as he gets older. There is no benefit to staying put.
Trading love for butler or George is the only way. It's a big upgrade because of system fit. George and I bet lebron will probably opt out but it will be worth it for one last run. And no Cleveland fan should be upset if lebron leaves Cleveland this way. |
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06-18-2017, 10:28 PM | #2695 |
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This is great for the Pacers. They literally need just one team to want to trade for George for other teams to start the bidding. I think the Lakers were holding out hope that he'd remain in Indiana and they'd just sign him as a FA. If he's traded to the Cavs, though, the Lakers' chances of getting him long-term go down significantly.
Good for the Pacers, even though their GM is mostly garbage.
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06-19-2017, 04:58 AM | #2696 | |
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06-19-2017, 05:06 AM | #2697 | |
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Turns out that one of the best defenders in the league means you have a large impact on the games. |
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06-19-2017, 05:12 AM | #2698 | |
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Ridiculous. Lebron had one of the worst +/- in the Finals. Does that mean he was one of the worst players in the series? Look at matchups. Draymond gets stomped 1-on-1 against good post up players: http://www.basketball-reference.com/...01&idx=players http://www.basketball-reference.com/...01&idx=players |
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06-19-2017, 05:23 AM | #2699 | |
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06-19-2017, 05:26 AM | #2700 |
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The Cavs' need for 3 years has been exactly the same. They never needed Love. What they needed was a rim protector, a wing defender/Lebron depth, and Kyrie depth. In year 1, they ended up giving 2 firsts and Dion Waiters to get it, and lucked out with Delly overplaying his potential. Their inability to find Lebron depth has led to overuse of his minutes and a rotation of geriatrics like Marion and Richard Jefferson to fill his shoes.
This season, in desperation mode, the Cavs again hunted for... you guessed it... Kyrie depth and a rim protector. Led to a desperate bid for Bogut and even Larry Sanders. And what killed the Cavs this finals? You guessed it... They didn't have the Mozgov guy to neutralize GS' Zaza, which makes Tristan Thompson better. Deron Williams was a trainwreck on the court. And the best wing defender for Durant was... Richard Jefferson, just as the Cavs embarrassingly marched out Shawn Marion and Mike Miller in year 1. If the Cavs trade for Paul George and can keep Bogut, they can compete with Golden State next year assuming they stay healthy. Though it'd be real nice to find some kind of Kyrie depth to soak up some minutes. That's the kind of talent they should have looked for in the first damn place 3 years ago. |
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