Chiefs USA Today hit piece on the Chiefs' "Brutal History of Domestic Violence" - Page 18

FloridaMan88 · 05-17-2019, 07:55 AM

Classic display of Brooke Pryor-sized yellow journalism...

https://www.usatoday.com/story/sport...ce/3683231002/

What's behind the Kansas City Chiefs' brutal history of domestic violence?

No other franchise in the NFL has compiled a record of domestic violence quite as brutal as the Kansas City Chiefs.

► In 2012 alone, the organization had two domestic murder-suicides, one at the hands of a player, Jovan Belcher, and the other at the hands of another employee.

► Since November 2017, three players have been suspended for alleged violence against women or children during their time with the team. The latest is wide receiver Tyreek Hill, whose status in the NFL has been in limbo since an audio recording aired on local TV last month suggesting he broke the arm of his 3-year-old son.

► Since 2015, the team also acquired at least three players who were kicked off of college teams for alleged domestic violence, most recently in April with the trade for defensive end Frank Clark. The other two are Hill and defensive back Justin Cox, who then was released by the team after another arrest.

With this many issues in recent years, questions about the franchise's culture and its efforts to address domestic abuse issues have come to a head — again.

“At some point, it’s going to be bad for the Kansas City Chiefs’ bottom line if they keep ignoring domestic violence and if they continue to select players with those kinds of histories,” said Kim Gandy, president of the National Network to End Domestic Violence.

On Thursday, Chiefs president Mark Donovan met with domestic violence groups, including the parents of Jamie Kimble, who was fatally shot in 2012 by her ex-boyfriend, a Chiefs stadium operations employee who then shot himself. In her memory, her parents started a foundation that promotes building domestic violence policies in the workplace, among other endeavors.

Their goal is to stop it. In the case of the Chiefs, such issues go back decades, all under the ownership of Lamar and Clark Hunt.

The Kimble family didn’t return messages seeking comment. Donovan said the meeting covered "education and creating best-in-class awareness of what people can do to help address the issue."

He disputes the notion the Chiefs are an "outlier" in the NFL with domestic violence, at least in the past 10 years. It depends on how the problem is measured. Only two teams — Denver and Miami — have recorded more domestic violence arrests or charges since January 2000 than the Chiefs, who have seven with the Belcher murder included, according to USA TODAY Sports' NFL player arrest database. By comparison, Denver and Miami haven't had nearly the same trouble as the Chiefs since the Belcher tragedy, which helped raise awareness of domestic problems in the league, along with the 2014 video footage of Baltimore Ravens running back Ray Rice assaulting his then-fiancee.

The database includes more than 110 domestic citations and more than 930 citations overall but doesn’t count incidents that don’t result in charges or arrests, such as the recent cases involving Hill and running back Kareem Hunt, who was shown on video last year shoving and kicking a woman before the team released him. In his case, the Chiefs had no tolerance for it, unlike with other ugly cases in team history.

There has been a common denominator in all the Chiefs’ successes and failures, on and off the field, through six head coaches over the past 20 years. Since its first year of existence in 1960, the franchise has been owned by the descendants of the former richest man in America, H.L. Hunt, a Texas oil wildcatter and bigamist who sired 15 children with three wives before his death in 1974.

One of those children, Lamar Hunt Sr., founded the franchise in Dallas, relocated it to Kansas City in 1963 and passed along ownership of the team to his children before his own death in 2006.

His son Clark Hunt, 54, is the team’s current controlling owner. He couldn't be reached for comment.

"It's one of the most respected families in all of sports," NFL spokesman Brian McCarthy told USA TODAY Sports on Thursday. McCarthy added that Chiefs players have done exemplary work off the field and lead the league with five NFL "Man of the Year" recipients since 1970. Donovan also stresses the high esteem of the Hunt family in Kansas City and the fact that the Chiefs have one of the best programs in the league for player engagement, according to the NFL.

The extended Hunt family still has its own complicated history with domestic abuse — which has claimed about one in four women in the U.S. as victims, according to research cited by the National Domestic Violence Hotline.

► In 1999, Chiefs co-owner Lamar Hunt Jr. was sued in civil court for allegedly sexually assaulting his mentally disabled sister-in-law two years earlier. The case was settled for around $2 million, according to the Dallas Morning News. Hunt Jr. didn’t return messages seeking comment.

► In 2002, Al Hill Jr., H.L. Hunt’s eldest grandson, pleaded no contest to misdemeanor assault. Hill, a former business partner of his uncle Lamar Hunt Sr., was required to attend 24 weeks of batterer intervention counseling, the Morning News reported. He died in 2017.

► Another offspring of H.L. Hunt, daughter June Hunt, has made the issue a personal cause as a Christian counselor who teaches about recovery from abuse. She has written books called How to Rise Above Abuse and How to Deal with Difficult Relationships. A representative said she wanted to talk to her family before commenting.

In Kansas City, Clark Hunt has taken a more corporate approach to the problem, similar to other NFL owners who have faced varying degrees of domestic cases. The difference with the Chiefs is the severity of recent incidents and their number of domestic cases, which is double the league average, according to the database.

The list includes former running back Larry Johnson, who faced two domestic cases and two others involving alleged abuse against women during his time with the team from 2003 to 2009.

"They were more upset about the image it cast," Johnson told USA TODAY Sports this month about Chiefs’ ownership’s response to his incidents. Regarding Clark Hunt, Johnson said, "He’s always been business, business, business, and he only cares about the guys he cares about."

The first time he was arrested with the Chiefs, in 2003, Johnson was accused of slapping his girlfriend and threatening her with a gun. That case led him into anger-management classes and a diversion program, his first test of tolerance with the franchise. At the time of his arrest, head coach Dick Vermeil said in the Kansas City Star that "I've been told his side of it, and I believe him ... (I) always believe the player. You know him so well. I always go on that side."

Johnson, now 39 and retired, since has watched how the team has dealt with the cases of Kareem Hunt and Hill.

"I don’t think they’re really equipped to handle these kids," Johnson said. "You have old men who don’t hang around young black kids the majority of their lives. They only look at us as far as stock or employees. That’s all they know of us."

That dynamic is not exclusive to the Chiefs. It also wasn’t the first time the Chiefs gave multiple chances to a talented young player, as shown in a sequence in 1994 that would be shocking by today’s standards.

On Jan. 4 of that year, wide receiver Tim Barnett was sentenced in court to 10 days in jail after pleading guilty to assault and battery against his wife the previous year — his second domestic case in about 15 months.

Four days later, the Chiefs played the Pittsburgh Steelers in a playoff game at home. The team — and a judge — allowed Barnett to play despite his jail sentence, and he ended up catching a dramatic touchdown pass from quarterback Joe Montana in the fourth quarter to help force overtime and eventually win. It was the last time the Chiefs won a playoff game at home until this year, but it wasn’t a happy ending for Barnett.

About five months later, he was accused of sexually assaulting a 14-year-old hotel maid in Milwaukee. The Chiefs finally released him afterward. He later was sentenced to three years in prison for the incident and never played in the NFL again.

"It’s not that they gave me chances," Barnett told USA TODAY Sports recently. "They made me go through the things I had to go through. It wasn’t like they just turned their heads, and said, 'OK, no problem.' That’s not the case. You have to go through the counseling and all the procedures."

McCarthy said the Chiefs were one of the first teams to have a full-time licensed clinician on hand to address mental health issues. Asked about what the team does to support players who join the Chiefs with prior domestic histories, Donovan said every situation is different.

"Without going through the specifics ... I would say confidently that we do as much, if not more, than any other team in the National Football League," Donovan told USA TODAY Sports.

Domestic violence experts still are alarmed by the recent history.

Gandy, the domestic violence expert, is particularly worried about two aspects in the case involving Tyreek Hill.

In 2015, he pleaded guilty to assaulting and choking his girlfriend at Oklahoma State. He was kicked off the team, put on probation and required to complete a batterer’s intervention program.

"It was a strangulation case, which is a significant predictor for lethal violence in the future and homicide," Gandy noted, citing research that shows that if domestic violence victims have been strangled in the past by a domestic partner, their risk of being killed by them is 10 times higher.

Gandy also referenced the audio recording that aired last month in which his fiancee – the same women he assaulted in college – is heard talking about how their young son is terrified of him.

"You need to be terrified of me, too, (expletive)," Hill replies on the audio.

Combined with his prior strangulation case, "that scares the hell out of me," Gandy said.

Two murder-suicides already haunt the franchise — the one that cost 31-year-old Jamie Kimble her life in September 2012 and the one that overshadowed it three months later. That’s when Belcher fatally shot his girlfriend, Kasandra Perkins, before driving to the team training facility and killing himself. Police said then the team had been aware of the couple’s problems and provided counseling.

At the time, it seemed like a seminal moment for the team and the NFL. But it wasn’t. It wasn’t until the rise of social media and easy video-sharing that the NFL got significantly tougher on punishing domestic offenders — in direct response to public outrage over seeing what domestic violence actually looked like.

Before 2014, such offenders often got no more than two-game suspensions from the NFL, which largely deferred to the judicial system, where such crimes can be difficult to prosecute because of uncooperative witnesses.

That all changed in 2014, when Rice was arrested for hitting his then-fiancè at an Atlantic City casino. The NFL initially gave him a two-game suspension after he entered a pretrial intervention program through the court. Then came the video. TMZ aired it later that year, showing Rice knocking the woman unconscious in an elevator. Rice never played again after that. The NFL since has issued longer suspensions even in cases without charges or arrests, such as with Kareem Hunt, now with the Cleveland Browns and suspended for eight games.

He likewise might never have been released by the Chiefs without TMZ airing the video of him at a hotel in February 2018.

After that aired in November, Clark Hunt (no relation to Kareem Hunt) told reporters "our scouting staff does a really good job of vetting players, and part of that analysis is their character. Obviously it’s very hard to learn everything about somebody. ... We’re certainly going to try to get better but I don’t think you can ever be perfect in that regard."

The child abuse investigation soon followed with Hill, a Pro Bowl player who also appeared to have escaped trouble until the audio recording aired last month. An attorney for Hill has disputed the claims in the recording, but Hill since has been suspended indefinitely as the team and the league decide what to do next.

Ruth Glenn, president of the National Coalition Against Domestic Violence, said the public visibility of NFL teams should make them wary of acquiring or keeping players with domestic histories, and not just because domestic assailants often re-offend. It’s also because putting up with it sends a public message that it’s not a big deal. This is why the NFL has tougher standards than the regular judicial system for alleged perpetrators — even though data shows that NFL players are arrested with less frequency than the general population.

"It may hurt the bottom line, which is money ... but if you really care about this culture and this nation, you will listen to your values and say, 'He’s a great player, but do we really want him representing our team, to really put that message out there that it’s OK?' " Glenn said.

Like other teams, the Chiefs consider background checks on player prospects and weigh personnel decisions on a sliding scale of risk vs. investment and talent. The better the player, the harder the decision can be to cut ties with him, unless there’s powerful video of the incident. There was no video of Larry Johnson’s incidents, for example.

"I was a first-round pick," Johnson told USA TODAY Sports. "They weren’t going to just release me because you’re just not going to release me — almost the same as Tyreek Hill situation. It’d hit newspaper, go to court, case would drop, I’d plead no contest, never do jail time.”

The decision wasn’t as hard for the Chiefs in November 2017, when Roy Miller, a backup defensive lineman, was arrested after a domestic incident with his wife, who had marks on her face and neck, according to the police report in Jacksonville, Florida. The Chiefs cut him two days later. He later entered a diversion program and was suspended by the NFL for six games.

He never played in the league again but was back in the news last month when he was arrested on a child-abuse charge.

He has pleaded not guilty. His ex-wife didn’t return a message seeking comment.

A decision is still pending on Hill.

"We haven’t made a decision on the Tyreek stuff, and that’s because we haven’t gathered all the information, and I think the league is still in the process of that," Donovan said. "We gathered the information on Kareem Hunt, and we made a decision. And we go through the same process. It’s a process that’s important to our culture. It’s important to our organization. It’s important to being a member of this community."

Hammock Parties · 05-17-2019, 01:27 PM

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Originally Posted by Sweet Daddy Hate

Certainly not for anything resembling legitimate journalism...

Standards are hitting rock bottom.

These companies are getting more and more desperate to shit out "content" every day.

Sweet Daddy Hate · 05-17-2019, 01:43 PM

I hope we become known as the most brutal team in the NFL. On both sides of the ball.

**New World Order** · 05-17-2019, 01:45 PM

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Originally Posted by Sweet Daddy Hate

I hope we become known as the most brutal team in the NFL. On both sides of the ball.

We beat people on the field, and off of it too

Frazod · 05-17-2019, 01:47 PM

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Originally Posted by saphojunkie

Please stop doing this.

Please stop Alex Jonesing all over the board. This has nothing to do with personal politics. And you should probably retire "feminazi" when there are ACTUAL ****ING NAZIS marching in America.

I'm a feminist.

I'm a liberal.

I hate this attack piece shit.

So, stop using this as some sort of bucket o' anger you can just throw at anyone who doesn't suck Trump's tiny dick.

So I guess you're the one with the cartoon chicken embroidered on your pink pussy hat, right?

Sassy Squatch · 05-17-2019, 01:53 PM

It is what it is. Hunt had his incident. Hill is currently under investigation and had that "unflattering" audio where he told the woman he'd beaten prior that she should be terrified of him. We brought in Clark and Lee, 2 players that have their own questionable history with domestic violence.

It's outrage culture. Much worse shit happens in the world and it's forgotten about the next week. They'll find something else to be outraged about and move on.

-King- · 05-17-2019, 01:55 PM

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Originally Posted by staylor26

Oh so you aren’t denying that they fit the definition, you just don’t like the term.

You know if you don’t like the terms, you can just ignore them, right? It seems to really bother you.

You told me to go **** myself and called me a bundle of stickss lmao. One of us is bothered, and it ain't me.

-King- · 05-17-2019, 01:58 PM

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Originally Posted by chiefzilla1501

Does the term white privilege and toxic masculinity make you cringe? Because it's the basically the opposite equivalent of SJWs. Both overused buzzwords select people inject into conversation to politicize things when people don't want to ****ing talk about politics. Maybe one day I can watch a superhero movie without a person complaining about a hero not being feminine enough and another complaining about a hero being too diverse. Just let me watch the ****ing movie.

Exactly. Two sides of the same coin.

staylor26 · 05-17-2019, 02:03 PM

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Originally Posted by -King-

You told me to go **** myself and called me a pillowbitergots lmao. One of us is bothered, and it ain't me.

I was being sarcastic because that’s what you say all of the time to people, but I guess it went over your head.

**Baby Lee** · 05-17-2019, 02:20 PM

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Originally Posted by -King-

Exactly. Two sides of the same coin.

Thanks for the permission to pay privilege and toxicity talk no further mind.

Stretching my empathy legs can be invigorating but I can now admit it can be tiring as well.

Whew, that's refreshing.

**RollChiefsRoll** · 05-17-2019, 02:30 PM

MagicHef · 05-17-2019, 02:31 PM

There's some good stuff on nflarrest.com

John Boyett:

Accused of being drunk, head-butting and hitting a cab driver and trying to hide from police by stealing a shovel and covering himself in mulch.

Hammock Parties · 05-17-2019, 02:34 PM

Look at the screaming condescension gushing out of that face

Discuss Thrower · 05-17-2019, 02:36 PM

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Originally Posted by Baby Lee

Thanks for the permission to pay privilege and toxicity talk no further mind.

Stretching my empathy legs can be invigorating but I can now admit it can be tiring as well.

Whew, that's refreshing.

Enjoy being on the wrong side of history you ****ing fascist incel.

**Tribal Warfare** · 05-17-2019, 02:39 PM

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Originally Posted by Hammock Parties

Look at the screaming condescension gushing out of that face

It looks she just graduated high school while giving handies to the principal and muff diving lessons to PE Teacher Ms. Armstrong

Hammock Parties · 05-17-2019, 03:53 PM

Let's take a look at the other clown who wrote this, lest this thread be mistaken for misogyny rather than extreme political bias:

NFL should ignore fascist frenzy over national anthem protocol https://t.co/m2iJMlWqMo via @usatoday
— Brent Schrotenboer (@Schrotenboer) August 16, 2018

NCAA President Mark Emmert's pay increased by nearly $500,000 in 2016, up to more than $2.4 million https://t.co/4W3yJhDd3d via @ByBerkowitz
— Brent Schrotenboer (@Schrotenboer) June 21, 2018

Republican tax bill takes aims at college athletics, stadium financing https://t.co/0NJh2h1odg via @usatoday
— Brent Schrotenboer (@Schrotenboer) November 3, 2017

Just lefties on a mission to shit on people and get rich doing it under the guise of "journalism."

05-17-2019, 07:55 AM
FloridaMan88 Mahomes: We Are All Witnesses Join Date: Mar 2003 Location: Miami, FL Casino cash: $2602906	USA Today hit piece on the Chiefs' "Brutal History of Domestic Violence" Classic display of Brooke Pryor-sized yellow journalism... https://www.usatoday.com/story/sport...ce/3683231002/ What's behind the Kansas City Chiefs' brutal history of domestic violence? No other franchise in the NFL has compiled a record of domestic violence quite as brutal as the Kansas City Chiefs. ► In 2012 alone, the organization had two domestic murder-suicides, one at the hands of a player, Jovan Belcher, and the other at the hands of another employee. ► Since November 2017, three players have been suspended for alleged violence against women or children during their time with the team. The latest is wide receiver Tyreek Hill, whose status in the NFL has been in limbo since an audio recording aired on local TV last month suggesting he broke the arm of his 3-year-old son. ► Since 2015, the team also acquired at least three players who were kicked off of college teams for alleged domestic violence, most recently in April with the trade for defensive end Frank Clark. The other two are Hill and defensive back Justin Cox, who then was released by the team after another arrest. With this many issues in recent years, questions about the franchise's culture and its efforts to address domestic abuse issues have come to a head — again. “At some point, it’s going to be bad for the Kansas City Chiefs’ bottom line if they keep ignoring domestic violence and if they continue to select players with those kinds of histories,” said Kim Gandy, president of the National Network to End Domestic Violence. On Thursday, Chiefs president Mark Donovan met with domestic violence groups, including the parents of Jamie Kimble, who was fatally shot in 2012 by her ex-boyfriend, a Chiefs stadium operations employee who then shot himself. In her memory, her parents started a foundation that promotes building domestic violence policies in the workplace, among other endeavors. Their goal is to stop it. In the case of the Chiefs, such issues go back decades, all under the ownership of Lamar and Clark Hunt. The Kimble family didn’t return messages seeking comment. Donovan said the meeting covered "education and creating best-in-class awareness of what people can do to help address the issue." He disputes the notion the Chiefs are an "outlier" in the NFL with domestic violence, at least in the past 10 years. It depends on how the problem is measured. Only two teams — Denver and Miami — have recorded more domestic violence arrests or charges since January 2000 than the Chiefs, who have seven with the Belcher murder included, according to USA TODAY Sports' NFL player arrest database. By comparison, Denver and Miami haven't had nearly the same trouble as the Chiefs since the Belcher tragedy, which helped raise awareness of domestic problems in the league, along with the 2014 video footage of Baltimore Ravens running back Ray Rice assaulting his then-fiancee. The database includes more than 110 domestic citations and more than 930 citations overall but doesn’t count incidents that don’t result in charges or arrests, such as the recent cases involving Hill and running back Kareem Hunt, who was shown on video last year shoving and kicking a woman before the team released him. In his case, the Chiefs had no tolerance for it, unlike with other ugly cases in team history. There has been a common denominator in all the Chiefs’ successes and failures, on and off the field, through six head coaches over the past 20 years. Since its first year of existence in 1960, the franchise has been owned by the descendants of the former richest man in America, H.L. Hunt, a Texas oil wildcatter and bigamist who sired 15 children with three wives before his death in 1974. One of those children, Lamar Hunt Sr., founded the franchise in Dallas, relocated it to Kansas City in 1963 and passed along ownership of the team to his children before his own death in 2006. His son Clark Hunt, 54, is the team’s current controlling owner. He couldn't be reached for comment. "It's one of the most respected families in all of sports," NFL spokesman Brian McCarthy told USA TODAY Sports on Thursday. McCarthy added that Chiefs players have done exemplary work off the field and lead the league with five NFL "Man of the Year" recipients since 1970. Donovan also stresses the high esteem of the Hunt family in Kansas City and the fact that the Chiefs have one of the best programs in the league for player engagement, according to the NFL. The extended Hunt family still has its own complicated history with domestic abuse — which has claimed about one in four women in the U.S. as victims, according to research cited by the National Domestic Violence Hotline. ► In 1999, Chiefs co-owner Lamar Hunt Jr. was sued in civil court for allegedly sexually assaulting his mentally disabled sister-in-law two years earlier. The case was settled for around $2 million, according to the Dallas Morning News. Hunt Jr. didn’t return messages seeking comment. ► In 2002, Al Hill Jr., H.L. Hunt’s eldest grandson, pleaded no contest to misdemeanor assault. Hill, a former business partner of his uncle Lamar Hunt Sr., was required to attend 24 weeks of batterer intervention counseling, the Morning News reported. He died in 2017. ► Another offspring of H.L. Hunt, daughter June Hunt, has made the issue a personal cause as a Christian counselor who teaches about recovery from abuse. She has written books called How to Rise Above Abuse and How to Deal with Difficult Relationships. A representative said she wanted to talk to her family before commenting. In Kansas City, Clark Hunt has taken a more corporate approach to the problem, similar to other NFL owners who have faced varying degrees of domestic cases. The difference with the Chiefs is the severity of recent incidents and their number of domestic cases, which is double the league average, according to the database. The list includes former running back Larry Johnson, who faced two domestic cases and two others involving alleged abuse against women during his time with the team from 2003 to 2009. "They were more upset about the image it cast," Johnson told USA TODAY Sports this month about Chiefs’ ownership’s response to his incidents. Regarding Clark Hunt, Johnson said, "He’s always been business, business, business, and he only cares about the guys he cares about." The first time he was arrested with the Chiefs, in 2003, Johnson was accused of slapping his girlfriend and threatening her with a gun. That case led him into anger-management classes and a diversion program, his first test of tolerance with the franchise. At the time of his arrest, head coach Dick Vermeil said in the Kansas City Star that "I've been told his side of it, and I believe him ... (I) always believe the player. You know him so well. I always go on that side." Johnson, now 39 and retired, since has watched how the team has dealt with the cases of Kareem Hunt and Hill. "I don’t think they’re really equipped to handle these kids," Johnson said. "You have old men who don’t hang around young black kids the majority of their lives. They only look at us as far as stock or employees. That’s all they know of us." That dynamic is not exclusive to the Chiefs. It also wasn’t the first time the Chiefs gave multiple chances to a talented young player, as shown in a sequence in 1994 that would be shocking by today’s standards. On Jan. 4 of that year, wide receiver Tim Barnett was sentenced in court to 10 days in jail after pleading guilty to assault and battery against his wife the previous year — his second domestic case in about 15 months. Four days later, the Chiefs played the Pittsburgh Steelers in a playoff game at home. The team — and a judge — allowed Barnett to play despite his jail sentence, and he ended up catching a dramatic touchdown pass from quarterback Joe Montana in the fourth quarter to help force overtime and eventually win. It was the last time the Chiefs won a playoff game at home until this year, but it wasn’t a happy ending for Barnett. About five months later, he was accused of sexually assaulting a 14-year-old hotel maid in Milwaukee. The Chiefs finally released him afterward. He later was sentenced to three years in prison for the incident and never played in the NFL again. "It’s not that they gave me chances," Barnett told USA TODAY Sports recently. "They made me go through the things I had to go through. It wasn’t like they just turned their heads, and said, 'OK, no problem.' That’s not the case. You have to go through the counseling and all the procedures." McCarthy said the Chiefs were one of the first teams to have a full-time licensed clinician on hand to address mental health issues. Asked about what the team does to support players who join the Chiefs with prior domestic histories, Donovan said every situation is different. "Without going through the specifics ... I would say confidently that we do as much, if not more, than any other team in the National Football League," Donovan told USA TODAY Sports. Domestic violence experts still are alarmed by the recent history. Gandy, the domestic violence expert, is particularly worried about two aspects in the case involving Tyreek Hill. In 2015, he pleaded guilty to assaulting and choking his girlfriend at Oklahoma State. He was kicked off the team, put on probation and required to complete a batterer’s intervention program. "It was a strangulation case, which is a significant predictor for lethal violence in the future and homicide," Gandy noted, citing research that shows that if domestic violence victims have been strangled in the past by a domestic partner, their risk of being killed by them is 10 times higher. Gandy also referenced the audio recording that aired last month in which his fiancee – the same women he assaulted in college – is heard talking about how their young son is terrified of him. "You need to be terrified of me, too, (expletive)," Hill replies on the audio. Combined with his prior strangulation case, "that scares the hell out of me," Gandy said. Two murder-suicides already haunt the franchise — the one that cost 31-year-old Jamie Kimble her life in September 2012 and the one that overshadowed it three months later. That’s when Belcher fatally shot his girlfriend, Kasandra Perkins, before driving to the team training facility and killing himself. Police said then the team had been aware of the couple’s problems and provided counseling. At the time, it seemed like a seminal moment for the team and the NFL. But it wasn’t. It wasn’t until the rise of social media and easy video-sharing that the NFL got significantly tougher on punishing domestic offenders — in direct response to public outrage over seeing what domestic violence actually looked like. Before 2014, such offenders often got no more than two-game suspensions from the NFL, which largely deferred to the judicial system, where such crimes can be difficult to prosecute because of uncooperative witnesses. That all changed in 2014, when Rice was arrested for hitting his then-fiancè at an Atlantic City casino. The NFL initially gave him a two-game suspension after he entered a pretrial intervention program through the court. Then came the video. TMZ aired it later that year, showing Rice knocking the woman unconscious in an elevator. Rice never played again after that. The NFL since has issued longer suspensions even in cases without charges or arrests, such as with Kareem Hunt, now with the Cleveland Browns and suspended for eight games. He likewise might never have been released by the Chiefs without TMZ airing the video of him at a hotel in February 2018. After that aired in November, Clark Hunt (no relation to Kareem Hunt) told reporters "our scouting staff does a really good job of vetting players, and part of that analysis is their character. Obviously it’s very hard to learn everything about somebody. ... We’re certainly going to try to get better but I don’t think you can ever be perfect in that regard." The child abuse investigation soon followed with Hill, a Pro Bowl player who also appeared to have escaped trouble until the audio recording aired last month. An attorney for Hill has disputed the claims in the recording, but Hill since has been suspended indefinitely as the team and the league decide what to do next. Ruth Glenn, president of the National Coalition Against Domestic Violence, said the public visibility of NFL teams should make them wary of acquiring or keeping players with domestic histories, and not just because domestic assailants often re-offend. It’s also because putting up with it sends a public message that it’s not a big deal. This is why the NFL has tougher standards than the regular judicial system for alleged perpetrators — even though data shows that NFL players are arrested with less frequency than the general population. "It may hurt the bottom line, which is money ... but if you really care about this culture and this nation, you will listen to your values and say, 'He’s a great player, but do we really want him representing our team, to really put that message out there that it’s OK?' " Glenn said. Like other teams, the Chiefs consider background checks on player prospects and weigh personnel decisions on a sliding scale of risk vs. investment and talent. The better the player, the harder the decision can be to cut ties with him, unless there’s powerful video of the incident. There was no video of Larry Johnson’s incidents, for example. "I was a first-round pick," Johnson told USA TODAY Sports. "They weren’t going to just release me because you’re just not going to release me — almost the same as Tyreek Hill situation. It’d hit newspaper, go to court, case would drop, I’d plead no contest, never do jail time.” The decision wasn’t as hard for the Chiefs in November 2017, when Roy Miller, a backup defensive lineman, was arrested after a domestic incident with his wife, who had marks on her face and neck, according to the police report in Jacksonville, Florida. The Chiefs cut him two days later. He later entered a diversion program and was suspended by the NFL for six games. He never played in the league again but was back in the news last month when he was arrested on a child-abuse charge. He has pleaded not guilty. His ex-wife didn’t return a message seeking comment. A decision is still pending on Hill. "We haven’t made a decision on the Tyreek stuff, and that’s because we haven’t gathered all the information, and I think the league is still in the process of that," Donovan said. "We gathered the information on Kareem Hunt, and we made a decision. And we go through the same process. It’s a process that’s important to our culture. It’s important to our organization. It’s important to being a member of this community."
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Sassy Squatch The man you could post like. Join Date: Oct 2010 Casino cash: $1899655	It is what it is. Hunt had his incident. Hill is currently under investigation and had that "unflattering" audio where he told the woman he'd beaten prior that she should be terrified of him. We brought in Clark and Lee, 2 players that have their own questionable history with domestic violence. It's outrage culture. Much worse shit happens in the world and it's forgotten about the next week. They'll find something else to be outraged about and move on.
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05-17-2019, 02:30 PM	#265
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05-17-2019, 02:31 PM	#266
MagicHef The Seated Villain Join Date: Apr 2007 Location: Seattle Casino cash: $2050247	There's some good stuff on nflarrest.com John Boyett: Accused of being drunk, head-butting and hitting a cab driver and trying to hide from police by stealing a shovel and covering himself in mulch. __________________ With a sack in 61% of his games, SB MVP Von Miller is the most consistent pass rusher in NFL history.
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05-17-2019, 02:34 PM	#267
Hammock Parties I'll be back. Join Date: Nov 2002 Casino cash: $4150478	Look at the screaming condescension gushing out of that face __________________ Chiefs game films
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05-17-2019, 03:53 PM	#270
Hammock Parties I'll be back. Join Date: Nov 2002 Casino cash: $4150478	Let's take a look at the other clown who wrote this, lest this thread be mistaken for misogyny rather than extreme political bias: NFL should ignore fascist frenzy over national anthem protocol https://t.co/m2iJMlWqMo via @usatoday — Brent Schrotenboer (@Schrotenboer) August 16, 2018 NCAA President Mark Emmert's pay increased by nearly $500,000 in 2016, up to more than $2.4 million https://t.co/4W3yJhDd3d via @ByBerkowitz — Brent Schrotenboer (@Schrotenboer) June 21, 2018 Republican tax bill takes aims at college athletics, stadium financing https://t.co/0NJh2h1odg via @usatoday — Brent Schrotenboer (@Schrotenboer) November 3, 2017 Just lefties on a mission to shit on people and get rich doing it under the guise of "journalism." __________________ Chiefs game films
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