Let's talk about the ****ing Bills.

[Direckshun]

This one is huge, people. If you didn't already know, and aren't already reading along in the two threads we're discussing this, this one could be for an NFL tiebreaker. Plus, it is a game we need to win so that we don't have to beat the league's most talented teams later to compensate.

The Bills are 5-3. We are 5-3. This, for all intents and purposes, is a playoff game. And it's in ****ing Buffalo, a place where they're almost as starved for playoff success as we are. Even worse, they're coming off a bye.

What the hell happened in Buffalo? This team was a hopeless dope of a franchise for years. They were awful last year. Now, they're suddenly competent and possibly even good? Without a running game??? What??

I'll tell you what happened. Kyle ****ing Orton happened. All of a sudden, the Bills have a QB who doesn't Belcher their entire chance at success. Orton can, you know, actually pass the ball, can adequately read defenses, and doesn't make gargantuan ****ing mistakes like EJ Manuel and Jeff Tuel did. And prepare yourself for this week, because Claythan is going to be blowing Orton all week and it's going to be ridiculous.

Orton's having a very good year by his standards, but there's two major catches to his success:

• The Bills do not have a run game, and therefore depend on Orton for their offensive success.
• He is still Kyle Orton.

That means you can expect Orton's effectiveness to evaporate like a Chiefs fan's hopes and dreams when he's under pressure. You can also expect him to struggle squeezing the ball into tight windows, which is why Orton has historically been terrible in the red zone.

He's been better this year in the red zone, but still nobody's idea of a world beater. The primary reason he's been getting some success is because they have their own Percy Harvin, which we apparently struggle mightily with, named Sammie Watkins. This Watkins kid isn't the polished route-runner that Harvin is, but he's bigger and every bit as athletic. He can absolutely torch people, and the Chiefs need to have this asshole on lockdown.

After that, they have several nice, adequate weapons in supporting roles. I've always really liked Scott Chandler at TE, and angled a few years back for the Chiefs to pick him up in FA. Mike Williams is a big WR who had a super productive year in Tampa and can still have a big catch from time to time, Robert Woods is a smooth route runner, and Marquise Goodwin is a re-****ing-diculous speedster.

At RB, it's a mess. Fred Jackson has missed time, and will probably be out. CJ Spiller is dead. Their lead RB, and this is true, is a guy named Boobie Dixon. Also known as Anthony Dixon, he was a 245 lbs, fatass plodder that the 49ers could never find use for. He's meh. They also have Bryce Brown, who is alright.

I really like their OL, which is a reason Orton's been able to sling it fairly well. Cordy Glenn is a ridiculous monster athlete of a LT, but he's still learning and is very young. Seantrel Henderson is another extremely large, very athletic tackle at RT, just a great pair of gigantic athletes there. Erik Wood is a decent, capable center, nothing special, but I don't know much about how Cyril Richardson and Erik Pears are playing at guard. Maybe we've got some New Englanders here who can enlighten us.

So that's a capable offense. But the defense is why they are 5-3.

This defensive line is impossible. Mario Williams is not the game changer he once was, but he gets his off the edge. The middle of the DL is probably the best the NFL has to offer: Marcel Dareus and Kyle Williams are ****ing impossible. They disrupt anything and everything, and are ferocious against the pass (Dareus has SEVEN SACKS) and the run. Shit... is about to get real. Off the other edge they have Jerry Hughes, a former 1st round bust who is off pace to notch 11 sack this year. This DL is the worst.

I don't know anything about Nigel Bradham at OLB, who apparently leads their team in tackles. Keith Rivers is injured again, so they play rookie Preston Brown at the other OLB spot -- Brown is not terribly athletic, but is a sound tackler. They have Brandon Spikes at ILB, the epitome of slow and heady.

Expect a heavy dosage of Stephon Gilmore on Bowe. Gilmore is a physical, smart corner who is a true #1 CB. Leonis McKelvin is a former 1st round bust -- great athlete, but very average at the #2 CB position -- which is probably enough against our poverty receiving corps.

Aaron Williams has been reborn as a very good safety in Buffalo after playing poorly as a CB early in his career. I don't know a damn thing about Da'Norris Searcy but his stats indicate a jack of all trades, and a master of none.

This is one of those games you get up for, people. It's going to be a very intense week getting up for this game, and having to put up with Claynus' Orton-whoring this week won't make it much better.

Let's win this ****ing game.

[Hammock Parties]

Originally Posted by Iconic

CP underestimating Orton when just three years ago they were crying for him to be their starting QB... oh how times have changed.

[Direckshun]

dat stache

[Rausch]

Originally Posted by Iconic

CP underestimating Orton when just three years ago they were crying for him to be their starting QB... oh how times have changed.

Houston has abused some damned good RT's this year.

Orton can't throw off his ass.

What scares me is the thought of having a 2 or 4 point lead, 2 minutes left, Orton has the ball, and we go prevent and don't rush 4.

[Hammock Parties]

Bills fan take:

Should be an interesting game. You cite the lack of a big play, well that's all we have is big plays. So unless we make 'em I don't see us winning. We don't move the ball consistently or well, don't have good time of possession, can't generate 1st downs, aren't good on 3rd conversions, and are not good in the red zone. In the last game vs. the Jets three of our TDs were based on long plays. 22, 61, and that 85 yarder that Sammy botched that set up a run in. So if you include that four of our last six TDs were spawned from outside the red zone.

Our defense seems to play well against the run when the opponent's starting RBs are out, but I see that yours are healthy. Our pass D seems to play well against QBs named Smith, Bridgewater, Fitzpatrick, and Tannehill for a half.

If you guys can't stop the big play you'll likely lose. But that big play isn't likely to come from our rushing department. I imagine that you're not ranked #1 against the pass because you've given up a lot of big passing plays.

On offense if you can run the ball against us, combined with your D, you can win. In three of our five wins we had over 340 total yards. But the thing is that we're not likely to do that running the ball like we did in September, especially with Jackson out. I can't help but notice that you guys haven't allowed more than 230 passing yards twice and when you've held teams to below that, your last 6 games, you're 5-1.

So it would appear to come down to Orton vs. your pass D and your rushing offense against our "elite" and formerly #1 rushing defense that's given up an average of over 150 rushing yards the last two games. I'm incessantly reminded however that Watkins is a special player who's capable of dominating any game here even though he's only played in 8 NFL games with half of them being pedestrian, so if that happens it could be the reason for your loss.

Otherwise, if your pass D can hold Orton down, and unless you make several key TOs, I'd say that the odds favor your Chiefs.

[Smed1065]

This is the final nail in the coffin. You know football better than you do women. Not much.

Originally Posted by Count Zarth

This is the game when we will realize just how bad our secondary is, and just how much Houston and Hali have been covering for them.

This is the game when we realize that we can't run on everyone.

This is the game when we realize that Eric Fisher is still a very below average LT, and the rest of the line is a burning pile of garbage.

Orton will rape, the running game will disappear, and Alex will fold like the bitch he is.

Bills 28, Chiefs 13


Nobody circles the wagons like the Buffalo Bills.

[Easy 6]

"Lets talk about ****ing the Bills"

Fixed your thread title.

[rabblerouser]

Originally Posted by CoMoChief

I was all for starting Tyler Palko for the rest of the season because it was going to result in the Chiefs landing Andrew Luck.

****, Palko beat the Bears and almost beat the Steelers.

Pioli had to fire Haley when he did, otherwise Haley was gonna **** around and make the playoffs with Tyler ****ing Palko.

[Hammock Parties]

Originally Posted by Easy 6

"Lets talk about ****ing the Bills"

Fixed your thread title.

[Hammock Parties]

[Direckshun]

Originally Posted by Count Zarth

Bills fan take:

The more we crack open this Bills nut, the better and better it looks.

[Direckshun]

Originally Posted by Count Zarth

[rabblerouser]

Originally Posted by Count Zarth

Buddha wept.

[Hammock Parties]

Originally Posted by Direckshun

The more we crack open this Bills nut, the better and better it looks.

I dunno. Almost assured that we won't run the ball well on them, and Alex will be under a lot of pressure.

A few big plays from Orton could be the deciding factor.

[Direckshun]

Originally Posted by Count Zarth

I dunno. Almost assured that we won't run the ball well on them, and Alex will be under a lot of pressure.

A few big plays from Orton could be the deciding factor.

1. As the fan said, they've given up 300 yards on the ground the past two weeks, and we have the best RB combo in the NFL.

2. We don't give up big plays in the passing game.

[jonzie04]

My bold predictions of the week.

1.The bills will not score more than 14 pts on us if we dont turn the ball over, and dont give up any big st plays.

2. Jamaal and knile will combine for over 150 on the ground. Reid and co will watch the vikings game and will run plays outside the tackles and we will have a lot of sucess.

I just dont think buffalo has what it takes to beat us. The only vunerability we have on defense is against the run, and without spiller and jackson they have one of the worst run games in the nfl. I dont even think 5 head could score that many pts on us with a bad run game. I dont think any team in the nfl is going to hold us to 14 pts either, now that the offense is somewhat clicking. Prediction chiefs 24 bills 10.