Chiefs Dorsey is a FAKE - Page 18

**New World Order** · 02-06-2014, 10:32 PM

Executive of the year? This is the same guy who had his choice of ANY player in college football and he drafted Eric Fisher. Your argument could be he traded for Alex Smith, but wasn't that Andy Reid's idea? Sean Smith, Marcus Cooper? Those pickups looked great for the first half of the year when we were playing quarterbacks like Jeff Tuel. Dunta Robinson looked like he had aids this year, another "big time FA signing." Travis Kelce, Nico Johnson, Sanders Commings, Eric Kush? I thought Dorsey was a gm who could find value at the top of the draft.

I have a bad feeling this year and next will resemble the 2010 and 2011 seasons. We do well and then the bottom drops out.

**J Diddy** · 02-09-2014, 02:04 AM

Quote:

Originally Posted by Discuss Thrower

I think it's a bad idea for Fisher to play at LT in the upcoming season if the team has any serious goals to compete in the postseason.

and what do you base that on?

Discuss Thrower · 02-09-2014, 02:13 AM

Quote:

Originally Posted by Dick Pull

and what do you base that on?

He's probably not good enough to be a LT without another year of development as a player -let alone one at such a critical position.

If the Chiefs are playing for Superbowls 3-4 years down the line it makes sense for him to take his lumps on the left side. If winning one next season is the goal then they have to put the best 5 men on the line and he played like a 6th or 7th best.

**J Diddy** · 02-09-2014, 02:17 AM

Quote:

Originally Posted by Discuss Thrower

He's probably not good enough to be a LT without another year of development as a player -let alone one at such a critical position.

If the Chiefs are playing for Superbowls 3-4 years down the line it makes sense for him to take his lumps on the left side. If winning one next season is the goal then they have to put the best 5 men on the line and he played like a 6th or 7th best.

First, that's not his natural position, but that being said he adapted and improved. Second, have you seen our line situation for next year? Asamoah-FA, Albert-FA, Schwartz-FA

We're not set by a damn sight

Discuss Thrower · 02-09-2014, 02:18 AM

Quote:

Originally Posted by Dick Pull

First, that's not his natural position, but that being said he adapted and improved. Second, have you seen our line situation for next year? Asamoah-FA, Albert-FA, Schwartz-FA

We're not set by a damn sight

Then the team should give up the pretense of playing for a 2014 championship and start building for the future.

**J Diddy** · 02-09-2014, 02:30 AM

Quote:

Originally Posted by Discuss Thrower

Then the team should give up the pretense of playing for a 2014 championship and start building for the future.

and what conversation did they use to convince you of their intent of playing for a 2014 championship?

We drafted a cornerstone LT, this year he will play it. I see them moving hudson to guard and Kush taking over at c. Stephenson will be at RT and I'll be shocked if we don't resign Schwartz.

chiefzilla1501 · 02-09-2014, 02:35 AM

Quote:

Originally Posted by Discuss Thrower

He's probably not good enough to be a LT without another year of development as a player -let alone one at such a critical position.

If the Chiefs are playing for Superbowls 3-4 years down the line it makes sense for him to take his lumps on the left side. If winning one next season is the goal then they have to put the best 5 men on the line and he played like a 6th or 7th best.

How do you know that?

1) LT is his natural position
2) His frame is better suited for Left Tackle
3) Last season, because of the new CBA, he barely had any chance to get the practice he needed. Could be one of the big reason why so many rookies struggled this year

Let him compete for the job, but it's a completely gut reaction to think he's that far away. I think a full offseason conditioning, access to the full coaching staff, and heal time will turn him into a different player

crazycoffey · 02-09-2014, 05:15 AM

Quote:

Originally Posted by htismaqe

The most damning evidence is him not even being on the field most of the 2nd half of the season.

Stop pretending to be cute, it's dumb.

No it's not, it WAS cute. Stop pretending like you know the future, it's really dumb.

I say that with love....

**BigMeatballDave** · 02-09-2014, 06:02 AM

Quote:

Originally Posted by Bowser

You don't throw him over there just because a 1.1 especially after watching him struggle his rookie year. He has to beat out Stephenson for one would hope. This is still a playoff team. You don't take a "sink or swim" approach with your left tackle. Get a guy that can handle his own there. As of today, I feel WAY better about Stephenson at LT than Fisher, and frankly I'm not sure how anyone could feel differently.

Why the hell not? He was drafted to play LT. He started at RT because they couldnt move Albert. Why did he start ahead of Stephenson? Because he's a 1st rd pick. That is why he'll start at LT if Albert is gone.

**RealSNR** · 02-09-2014, 08:03 AM

Quote:

Originally Posted by BCD

Why the hell not? He was drafted to play LT. He started at RT because they couldnt move Albert. Why did he start ahead of Stephenson? Because he's a 1st rd pick. That is why he'll start at LT if Albert is gone.

And given what you saw to begin the year, THAT'S the asshole who ideally should have been protecting our shiny new QB's blindside?

TomBarndtsTwin · 02-09-2014, 08:21 AM

So we should automatically assume that same player that started last year is going to be the same guy beginning this year??

That seems logical.

Did you also feel the same about Dontari Poe going into this year??

How about we give Fisher a full off season to get ready before we deem him not capable of starting at LT. He may surprise you. Poe certainly did.

**Dave Lane** · 02-09-2014, 08:45 AM

Quote:

Originally Posted by TomBarndtsTwin

So we should automatically assume that same player that started last year is going to be the same guy beginning this year??

That seems logical.

Did you also feel the same about Dontari Poe going into this year??

How about we give Fisher a full off season to get ready before we deem him not capable of starting at LT. He may surprise you. Poe certainly did.

And if he fails to progress, or gets injured, or regresses then what? You do realize that's 3 of the 4 possibilities for him, right? Just toss 2014 out the window and move on to 2015?

TomBarndtsTwin · 02-09-2014, 10:39 AM

Quote:

Originally Posted by Dave Lane

And if he fails to progress, or gets injured, or regresses then what? You do realize that's 3 of the 4 possibilities for him, right? Just toss 2014 out the window and move on to 2015?

Ummm, isn't that pretty much the 'possibilities' for almost every young NFL player every year??

So should the philosophy be 'Never give the young guy with tons of potential a chance?'

Just always stick with the veteran or established player???

chiefzilla1501 · 02-09-2014, 10:47 AM

Quote:

Originally Posted by SNR

And given what you saw to begin the year, THAT'S the asshole who ideally should have been protecting our shiny new QB's blindside?

You don't have to be as strong to play left tackle and fisher instinctively knows the technique. That solves the majority of his problems right there.

Maybe that meant sitting on the bench. I haven't heard anybody comment yet, by the way, on how the new cba is making it incredibly difficult for rookies to adjust to the Nfl right away.

**New World Order** · 08-23-2014, 08:04 PM

We must revolt!

Mother****erJones · 08-23-2014, 09:13 PM

Lol truth!

02-06-2014, 10:32 PM
New World Order Choco Favre Join Date: Jul 2012 Casino cash: $2264765	Dorsey is a FAKE Executive of the year? This is the same guy who had his choice of ANY player in college football and he drafted Eric Fisher. Your argument could be he traded for Alex Smith, but wasn't that Andy Reid's idea? Sean Smith, Marcus Cooper? Those pickups looked great for the first half of the year when we were playing quarterbacks like Jeff Tuel. Dunta Robinson looked like he had aids this year, another "big time FA signing." Travis Kelce, Nico Johnson, Sanders Commings, Eric Kush? I thought Dorsey was a gm who could find value at the top of the draft. I have a bad feeling this year and next will resemble the 2010 and 2011 seasons. We do well and then the bottom drops out.
Posts: 29,344

02-09-2014, 08:21 AM	#265
TomBarndtsTwin MVP Join Date: Mar 2013 Casino cash: $4899883	So we should automatically assume that same player that started last year is going to be the same guy beginning this year?? That seems logical. Did you also feel the same about Dontari Poe going into this year?? How about we give Fisher a full off season to get ready before we deem him not capable of starting at LT. He may surprise you. Poe certainly did.
Posts: 8,882

08-23-2014, 08:04 PM	#269
New World Order Choco Favre Join Date: Jul 2012 Casino cash: $2264765	We must revolt!
Posts: 29,344