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Old 02-14-2013, 10:20 AM   #1
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I dont get all the Glennon hate here hes inconsistent but also had shitty coaching. Sounds familiar.

Also are we now pretending like Suh is some sort of bust? Ive read a few post in here that would indicate so. Were the lions suppose to trade for Bradford?
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Old 02-14-2013, 10:23 AM   #2
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I dont get all the Glennon hate here hes inconsistent but also had shitty coaching. Sounds familiar.

Also are we now pretending like Suh is some sort of bust? Ive read a few post in here that would indicate so. Were the lions suppose to trade for Bradford?
He also played in a garbage conference against weak defenses - and wasn't impressive.
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Old 02-14-2013, 11:04 AM   #3
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He also played in a garbage conference against weak defenses - and wasn't impressive.
Exactly.

There's A LOT to not like about Glennon.

In fact, the only things TO like about Glennon are his height and his arm strength, EVERYTHING ELSE about him ranges from "meh" to
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Old 02-14-2013, 11:06 AM   #4
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Exactly.

There's A LOT to not like about Glennon.

In fact, the only things TO like about Glennon are his height and his arm strength, EVERYTHING ELSE about him ranges from "meh" to
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Old 02-14-2013, 10:24 AM   #5
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I dont get all the Glennon hate here hes inconsistent but also had shitty coaching. Sounds familiar.

Also are we now pretending like Suh is some sort of bust? Ive read a few post in here that would indicate so. Were the lions suppose to trade for Bradford?
No. Suh is a bad example whoever used it. If Kansas City had drafted the franchise QB LAST year and Clowney were in the draft this year, then yes, this pick would be a no-brainer.

Suh is also not done learning how to channel his incredible ability. He's still a good player. Angry, but good.
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Old 02-14-2013, 10:25 AM   #6
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Also are we now pretending like Suh is some sort of bust?
Suh is a very good player.

And he hasn't, and won't, win shit, until Stafford un****s himself and Gunther is fired.
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Old 02-14-2013, 10:28 AM   #7
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Suh is a very good player.

And he hasn't, and won't, win shit, until Stafford un****s himself and Gunther is fired.
and he never will until they get a QB...
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Old 02-14-2013, 10:31 AM   #8
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and he never will until they get a QB...
I don't think the Lions should give up on Stafford yet... but you are right, he's currently shown nothing to say that the Lions are going to be competing for even an NFC championship anytime soon.

The Lions need help in the Secondary badly... and when they get it, Stafford should have no excuse to not take them far in the playoffs.
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Old 02-14-2013, 10:38 AM   #9
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I don't think the Lions should give up on Stafford yet... but you are right, he's currently shown nothing to say that the Lions are going to be competing for even an NFC championship anytime soon.

The Lions need help in the Secondary badly... and when they get it, Stafford should have no excuse to not take them far in the playoffs.
Clownfish will never see a superbowl either if his team doesnt have a QB...

Strange how that works in the modern day NFL...

Without a QB you are a washed out franchise like the Chiefs...
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Old 02-14-2013, 10:40 AM   #10
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I don't think the Lions should give up on Stafford yet... but you are right, he's currently shown nothing to say that the Lions are going to be competing for even an NFC championship anytime soon.

The Lions need help in the Secondary badly... and when they get it, Stafford should have no excuse to not take them far in the playoffs.
People don't realize this was his 2nd full year starting.

I expect Stafford to bounce back this year, provided Detroit re vamps their pass rush, secondary, and upgrades at WR, RB.
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Old 02-14-2013, 10:26 AM   #11
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I dont get all the Glennon hate here hes inconsistent but also had shitty coaching. Sounds familiar.
I'm not bagging on you for liking him, (that's just your opinion).
I've watched everything he has on youtube and comparable to Geno/Wilson/Barkley, he's just not even in the same conversation to me.

He's got the ideal physical measurables and can throw the occasional good pass.

I like to look for great consistency and great pocket awareness. Something that really sells me on Geno.
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FTR, a nice consolation prize to Clowney next year if (a BIG if) he explodes is Ronald Powell. He was the #1 overall recruit the year before Clowney. All indications were that he finally committed to the game and was clicking during spring practices last year and then he tore his ACL and missed all of last season. Florida just stole away Clowney's DL coach so we'll see if it pays dividends for Powell, another athletic freak who (thusfar) hasn't had the on-field production.
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Okay, I expanded to the last 20 years of top 5 picks. So, out of those 100 players, here is the percentage by position that had a winning record during their tenure with the team that drafted them. This is not the result I was expecting:

LB 67% (sample size 9)
CB 50% (sample size 6)
QB 42% (sample size 26)
RB 36% (sample size 14)
OT 29% (sample size 14)
DE 20% (sample size 10)
DT 11% (sample size 9)
WR 10% (sample size 10)
S 0% (sample size 2)
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