Sac's 2015 Chiefs Mock Draft

[spanky 52]

I like it. Got a feeling Heureman might go higher than the 5th.

[Saccopoo]

Originally Posted by spanky 52

I like it. Got a feeling Heureman might go higher than the 5th.

That's the one I struggled with in placing in the draft.

He's coming off an injury and was used almost exclusively as an in-line blocker the past two seasons.

However, he's strong, athletic and can get downfield and be effective with the ball in his hands.

And it is a weaker TE draft, which might push him up the boards. (Though I think teams will see guys like Devin Funchess and Darren Waller as attractive options as tight ends in the Jimmy Graham model versus wide receivers, which will push down some of the guys who played the TE spot in college.)

However, after the first couple of top rated tight ends come off the board, they typically tend to fall into the fourth/fifth/sixth round area.

He could go as high as Round 3 early, but most likely will be there in the fourth/fifth.

[Saccopoo]

No changes. Final draft.

I kept trying to think of someone other than La'el Collins in the first round, but at the end of the day, he is, IMO, the best offensive lineman in this draft, capable of playing four positions and upgrading all of them (as it currently stands for the Chiefs roster). While people continue to think that selecting an offensive lineman is a "safe pick" or a dull pick, it was the worst position group on the roster in the 2014 season and the reason why this team wasn't in the playoffs. Even Charles has come out and verbally taken the 2014 line group to task for seriously underperforming. This would have been a playoff team capable of winning a few if they had slightly better performance from LT, LG, RG or RT - all positions that Collins would/could/can play.

He's insurance at LT if Fisher busts out in his third year (which I don't think happens, but if it does...), he's insurance against Allen or Stephenson sucking at RT (which is distinctly possible as I don't know if Allen is NFL level capable or Stephenson can't play against NFL DL strength without the drugs). At the very minimum, he'd give the Chiefs a Pro Bowl level performer at RG.

Selecting Collins simply makes too much sense for a team with far too many question marks in a position group that is incredibly important for this system with this QB.

[the Talking Can]

impossible not to hate drafting another first round OL, especially when he doesn't fix our most glaring hole at center (and which was correctly addressed with a mere 3rd round pick), but...it's a good draft and i'd take it

[Saccopoo]

Originally Posted by the Talking Can

impossible not to hate drafting another first round OL, especially when he doesn't fix our most glaring hole at center (and which was correctly addressed with a mere 3rd round pick), but...it's a good draft and i'd take it

The thing is, who knows if it's our most glaring hole? We have no idea about Kush.

However, we do know that LT, RG and RT sucked complete ass last year. (And that's giving benefit of the doubt to Ben Grubbs at LG based on past experience.)

To tell you the truth, the entire offensive line (other than Grubbs now at LG) is one big, gigantic, pulsating, glaring hole with questions marks at each and every position.

LT - Will Fisher "get it?" I hope he does. He better. He's shown flashes, but he's also shown immense suck.

LG - Grubbs has had a productive career, but he's coming into a new system and is 31 years old.

C - Kush is a complete unknown performance wise. He knows the system, but he'll have to develop chemistry on the snap with Smith and we'll see if he can call the line properly.

RG - Fulton was bad to horrible last season. Halfway decent in run blocking and tragic in pass protection. Can't pull laterally effectively.

RT - Allen has been suck to mediocre his entire pro career. Stephenson looks great - when he's jacked on 'roids. Sherrod has every tool you want, but still hears that femur snapping.

And, in all honesty, there isn't really going to be an impact player available at #18 that you can't get in R2, R3, R4 or R5.

Henry Anderson is every bit the player that Arik Armstead is and actually has had better production and has better measurables.

Eric Rowe is the best press man corner in the draft. Not Waynes, Collins, Jones or Johnson.

McBride gives you everything that Amari Cooper does, with better concentration and hands.

I wouldn't take Eric Kendricks or Benardrick McKinney for this system over Zach Vigil straight up, let alone spend a first rounder on one of them. (I'd take Plummer over Kendricks straight up.)

And I wanted to put in a guy like Dupree or Gregory, but do you really want to draft another guy in the first that will actually be further down the depth chart than even Dee Ford? And I think that a guy like Kyle Emanuel is a perfect dude to try and work into the system as a potential long term replacement for Hali versus taking that guy in the first.

No, after a long thought process, if La'el Collins is on the board, he is, without question, the best pick that the Chiefs could possibly make in round one that makes this team a better team - both from an initial perspective and long term.

[RunKC]

Jeff Heuerman is so overrated IMO. If we want a TE, Tyler Kroft is the TE to take.

[the Talking Can]

Originally Posted by Saccopoo

The thing is, who knows if it's our most glaring hole? We have no idea about Kush.

However, we do know that LT, RG and RT sucked complete ass last year. (And that's giving benefit of the doubt to Ben Grubbs at LG based on past experience.)

To tell you the truth, the entire offensive line (other than Grubbs now at LG) is one big, gigantic, pulsating, glaring hole with questions marks at each and every position.

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Kush is the biggest unknown, and therefore the biggest risk.

Grubbs is a huge upgrade even if he's tapered off. Fulton has played 16 games, and has a league-average guard behind him, or to replace him, in faniakaiakaika. RT is a bit of a mess, but again at least with people who have experience.

If we can address center in the 3rd, then we don't need to spend a 1st on the OL. I'm sure Collins is a good player, and I like your draft.

But I'd take Peters in the first, Lockett/Devin Smith in the second

then use the mcbride pick for an actual safety, or bpa, or swing tackle...then take a flyer on a WR in the 5th,6th (which you did)

[The Franchise]

If we're going to take offensive linemen....these are the two that I'd actually be happy with.

[RealSNR]

We could draft jizz and farts for 8 of our picks.

If we came away with Vigil and Emanuel in the same draft, I'd call it a success. I like them both that ****ing much. And I usually hate white players.

[The Franchise]

Originally Posted by SNR

We could draft jizz and farts for 8 of our picks.

If we came away with Vigil and Emanuel in the same draft, I'd call it a success. I like them both that ****ing much. And I usually hate white players.

I'm really hoping that we draft Emanuel. Kid is solid.

[O.city]

Replace Rowe with Grady Jarrett and I'd consider it a great draft

[RunKC]

Originally Posted by O.city

Replace Rowe with Grady Jarrett and I'd consider it a great draft

I like Grady Jarrett, but I think he could be gone around our 2nd pick. Like him and Malcom Brown.

[RealSNR]

Originally Posted by O.city

Replace Rowe with Grady Jarrett and I'd consider it a great draft

What do you not like about Rowe?

I don't want him with our 1st round pick, but if he were available with our 2nd, holy shit I would tap that so hard.

[O.city]

Originally Posted by SNR

What do you not like about Rowe?

I don't want him with our 1st round pick, but if he were available with our 2nd, holy shit I would tap that so hard.

I like him, but I like Jarrett more.

I think Jarrett is Aaron Donald lite. Him and Poe in the middle with 3 pass rushers on the field would wreck shit

[Saccopoo]

Originally Posted by O.city

I like him, but I like Jarrett more.

I think Jarrett is Aaron Donald lite. Him and Poe in the middle with 3 pass rushers on the field would wreck shit

Jarrett is a little short and short armed to be effective in a 34, especially in subsets, don't you think?

He gets after dudes, but he's going to be limited in his ability to hold a double gap to let linebackers come off the blocks.

If we were running a 43, sure, but I don't see him having a function in this defense.