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Old 09-29-2018, 01:06 PM  
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Eric Berry has a Haglund’s deformity on his heel

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REPORT: Eric Berry has a Haglund’s deformity on his heel
New information on Berry’s sore heel injury emerged on Saturday.

By Pete Sweeney Sep 29, 2018, 1:15pm CDT

Eric Berry has not practiced or played for the Kansas City Chiefs since August 11 in St. Joseph, Missouri, because of what the team has described as a “sore heel.”

The last we heard from the Chiefs athletic training staff was in early September, when head athletic trainer Rick Burkholder described the injury as “literally day to day.”

More information on Berry’s injury emerged Saturday morning, via NFL Network’s Mike Garafolo:

Mike Garafolo: “My understanding, and I’ve spoken to people familiar with his injury situation. He’s got what’s called a Haglund’s deformity in that Achilles. That’s a bone spur that basically digs into the Achilles. Shaun O’ Hara, our colleague at NFL Network, he had it. I spoke to him this week. He said it is extremely painful. He actually used a more colorful word that I won’t use here. It’s just something that continues to irritate the area. Some guys have been able to play with it—you get a shoe here or there, you can adjust … but that’s what’s going on. It’s going to be a pain management thing. It’s not like this thing will tear the Achilles necessarily. A lot of these cases don’t result in a tear, but that’s why with Berry right now, he has not played, and they’ve been doing OK. That’s going to allow them a little bit more patience with Berry, but it is extremely painful.”

This provides a little more clarity than Berry’s injury simply being a “sore heel,” which is good, but what’s bad is there still seems to be no timetable. Remember, Berry missed nearly the entirety of the 2017 season due to a ruptured Achilles on the other leg.

Chiefs head coach Andy Reid was mum on the injury when asked about it Saturday afternoon after the Chiefs’ final practice of the week.

Berry is officially ruled doubtful heading into the Monday night game against the Denver Broncos.

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Here are the notes from our in-house medical expert, Aaron Borgmann:

A lot of talk today regarding something known as a Haglund’s deformity. It was reported by a media source that the player in question suffers from this condition. This discussion is not to confirm or deny that possibility, as I can only explain the available information that we have been given. To be clear, the team has not confirmed this diagnosis and I have no advance knowledge of the player’s current condition.

The simple explanation here that it is indeed a bone spur on the backside of someone’s heel. This is frequently known as a “pump bump” from the occurrence that it is often seen in women’s fashion from the shoes that they wear. However, incidence in football players is also common, sometimes referred to as “retrocalcaneal bursitis” as well.

The bone spur irritates the bursa (fluid-filled sac) that sits between the bone and the tendon or even the tendon itself directly. This can cause a great deal of inflammation and discomfort with any sort of dynamic ankle/foot movement, worse with pressure on the spot itself.

Having one in and of itself it not uncommon, but the degree to which it bothers someone is the issue. Depending upon demands of movement, these can range from debilitating to just a nuisance. Obviously, in football players, the degree of inflammation is what dictates the level of function.

These are diagnosed both visually and radiographically and it is a situation where if you see it and player complains of certain symptoms (pain with movement in that exact spot, swelling, redness) then you can be pretty sure that is what it is.

Treatment focuses on reduction of inflammation obviously directly over the spot. This can be done both topically and through systemic medication. Soft tissue lengthening in both the calf and bottom of the foot is also done to alleviate the issue from both sides – this is due to the fact that both the calf and plantar fascia connect to the calcaneus (heel bone) on either side.

Not to be forgotten is footwear modification and adjustment. Very rigid shoes can cause this irritation, and in some athletes, I would even cut the shoe in the heel to allow room for the bump. Other options include specialized padding and friction reduction methods. Heel lifts have been shown to be helpful in some.

For this condition, non-surgical intervention is preferred to reduce the inflammation as opposed to surgical due to the immobilization period.

If the inflammation can be reduced and the function level high, many players learned to adapt their daily routines to accommodate. They may have to put in a bit more time in order to get ready due to the condition’s demands but can nonetheless get by and still perform at a high level.

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Old 12-10-2018, 12:51 PM   #2611
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It's an "overreaction" that Eric Berry's availability is still a question mark at Week 15 for the biggest game of the season.

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Old 12-10-2018, 12:52 PM   #2612
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Old 12-10-2018, 12:58 PM   #2614
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He'll probably be in for 15-20 snaps and then be done for the night. And then we'll get a tweet the next week about how his ankle is inflamed and he's "day to day".
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It's nuts. Everyone that talked about it yesterday acted like it's Berry's call
It’s been his ****ing call all year, and he’s said no.
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It’s been his ****ing call all year, and he’s said no.
Why do you suppose that is? He suddenly just became a pussy?

Serious question. I mean hell I don't have the answer but I don't question his character so I don't know what to think.
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Why do you suppose that is? He suddenly just became a pussy?

Serious question. I mean hell I don't have the answer but I don't question his character so I don't know what to think.
I’m at a loss as well. The only reason I lean that way is how the team has handled this circus. They felt he could play and is why he’s been “day to day”, “when EB says he can go he will go”. It’s difficult not to question his character at this point.
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It's an "overreaction" that Eric Berry's availability is still a question mark at Week 15 for the biggest game of the season.

And that's exactly what I mean. He hasn't been playing for 15 ****ing weeks and suddenly NOW the imaginary line has been drawn that if he doesn't suit up Thursday he's FIRED INSTANTLY!!!!1111111

Jesus get a grip you pussies. He'll play this season, and when he does all of you bipolar ****s will forget about half the shit you said about him.
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**** he needs an injury settlement and off our books. If he can’t play he doesn’t need to be the sideline inspiration.
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And that's exactly what I mean. He hasn't been playing for 15 ****ing weeks and suddenly NOW the imaginary line has been drawn that if he doesn't suit up Thursday he's FIRED INSTANTLY!!!!1111111

Jesus get a grip you pussies. He'll play this season, and when he does all of you bipolar ****s will forget about half the shit you said about him.
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And that's exactly what I mean. He hasn't been playing for 15 weeks and suddenly NOW the imaginary line has been drawn that if he doesn't suit up Thursday he's FIRED INSTANTLY!!!!1111111

Jesus get a grip you pussies. He'll play this season, and when he does all of you will forget about half the shit you said about him.
This week's game is kind of important and it is Week 15... i.e. near the end of the regular season.
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Why do you suppose that is? He suddenly just became a pussy?

Serious question. I mean hell I don't have the answer but I don't question his character so I don't know what to think.
Compared to Hill playing on a bum ankle, with an arm that looked like it was in way bad shape?

Not even for me does calling him a pussy roll off my tongue very easily, the guy beat cancer, but c'mon man! Day-to-day for this many weeks, no details as to why the team has had to play most of the regular season, essentially, with a 52-man roster, is just uncool and worthy of quite a bit of backlash. If he really can't go, that's fine, but he's been "day-to-day" through week 14 of the NFL season man.

Perhaps the fans need the break, not Berry. There was nothing stopping him from explaining how, after week 4, what's really going on. The fact that he's been pretty-much mum suggests some low character, or minimally priorities that aren't football/the Chiefs. That's legal for him to do, but catching shit from the fans is just as legal at this point.

Let's just quit pretending that football is his priority and that's he's crushed by not being out there. Nothing I've seen from those sideline shots and jogging in practice suggests he's anything close to being crushed.
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And that's exactly what I mean. He hasn't been playing for 15 ****ing weeks and suddenly NOW the imaginary line has been drawn that if he doesn't suit up Thursday he's FIRED INSTANTLY!!!!1111111

Jesus get a grip you pussies. He'll play this season, and when he does all of you bipolar ****s will forget about half the shit you said about him.
Why not just sit back and let us talk shit about our least productive player (at any salary)? There's no need for you to overreact to our reaction.
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Compared to Hill playing on a bum ankle, with an arm that looked like it was in way bad shape?

Not even for me does calling him a pussy roll off my tongue very easily, the guy beat cancer, but c'mon man! Day-to-day for this many weeks, no details as to why the team has had to play most of the regular season, essentially, with a 52-man roster, is just uncool and worthy of quite a bit of backlash. If he really can't go, that's fine, but he's been "day-to-day" through week 14 of the NFL season man.

Perhaps the fans need the break, not Berry. There was nothing stopping him from explaining how, after week 4, what's really going on. The fact that he's been pretty-much mum suggests some low character, or minimally priorities that aren't football/the Chiefs. That's legal for him to do, but catching shit from the fans is just as legal at this point.

Let's just quit pretending that football is his priority and that's he's crushed by not being out there. Nothing I've seen from those sideline shots and jogging in practice suggests he's anything close to being crushed.
What... Do you want him to be crying on the sideline to show you that he's crushed?
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