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Old 04-15-2016, 08:57 PM  
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**2016 Official NBA Playoffs Thread**

Round 1:

EAST:

#8 Pistons @ #1 Cavs
#7 Pacers @ #2 Raptors
#6 Hornets @ #3 Heat
#5 Celtics @ #4 Hawks

WEST:
#8 Rockets @ #1 Warriors
#7 Grizzlies @ #2 Spurs
#6 Mavericks @ #3 Thunder
#5 Blazers @ #4 Clippers
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Old 06-06-2016, 03:43 PM   #2611
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So you think so highly of Lebron that you'll make every excuse in the book before you criticize him for anything, yet you have no expectations of him whatsoever if he's playing a team even a little better than his. It's a huge contradiction in a sport like basketball where one guy can take over a game and a series IMO. Very convenient outlook for a Stan like yourself.
A little better than his? Have you watched this series? Did you read the post showing how much better those Spurs/Warriors teams were statistically?

Damn, I know you hate LeBron but even you have to admit that there's nothing he could do to win this series.
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Clearly he needs 4 All Star teammates.

THEN we can actually expect a championship from the GOAT.
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Old 06-06-2016, 03:47 PM   #2613
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A little better than his? Have you watched this series? Did you read the post showing how much better those Spurs/Warriors teams were statistically?

Damn, I know you hate LeBron but even you have to admit that there's nothing he could do to win this series.
I wasn't talking about this series. I definitely agree the Warroirs are significantly better. Doesn't change the fact that he hasn't at least helped to keep it respectable though.
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Clearly he needs 4 All Star teammates.

THEN we can actually expect a championship from the GOAT.
He could certainly use another HOF talent like Shaq or Gasol around him.
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He could certainly use another HOF talent like Shaq or Gasol around him.
He did and he still lost to an inferior Mavs team, was bailed out by Ray Allen in the first Spurs series, and embarrassed in the second.
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Old 06-06-2016, 03:53 PM   #2616
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I wasn't talking about this series. I definitely agree the Warroirs are significantly better. Doesn't change the fact that he hasn't at least helped to keep it respectable though.
LeBron doesn't have a good supporting cast. And has a terrible coach. But he is most to blame for that.
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He could certainly use another HOF talent like Shaq or Gasol around him.
Oh that's right, we're still acting like there's a massive distinction between Gasol and Love because you finally managed to find an obscure stat and a small enough sample size to convince yourself of it. Oh, and and Kyrie Irving is somehow worse than Derek Fisher.

Got it.

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Old 06-06-2016, 03:55 PM   #2618
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Oh that's right, we're still acting like there's a massive distinction between Gasol and Love because you finally managed to find an obscure stat and a small enough sample size to convince yourself of it. Oh, and and Kyrie Irving is somehow worse than Derek Fisher.

Got it.

It's always someone else's fault...
The idea that Kevin Love is the equivalent to Pau Gasol as a basketball player remains too hilarious for words.
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LeBron doesn't have a good supporting cast. And has a terrible coach. But he is most to blame for that.
Exactly why I'm not giving him a pass for that.

I also don't agree that he doesn't have a "good supporting cast". It's not great, but it's better than most.
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The idea that Kevin Love is the equivalent to Pau Gasol as a basketball player remains too hilarious for words.
The fact that you continue to ignore that Kevin Love was a no-shit superstar before arriving in Cleveland is telling.

Gasol gets to LA with the ball-stopper that can't make his teammates better and his game goes to another level. Love goes to Cleveland with Super Teammate, turns to shite and suddenly it's Love's fault.

Sure thing, champ.
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Speaking of, can you imagine if Ray Allen doesn't hit that 3?

We'd be sitting here talking about a guy that is 1-6 in the Finals, with his only win being against a team that is going to have a legacy of choking (not to mention when they were young).

That 3 was so big for Lebron's legacy.
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The fact that you continue to ignore that Kevin Love was a no-shit superstar before arriving in Cleveland is telling.

Gasol gets to LA with the ball-stopper that can't make his teammates better and his game goes to another level. Love goes to Cleveland with Super Teammate, turns to shite and suddenly it's Love's fault.

Sure thing, champ.
Gasol was literally the best player on both of those Lakers championship teams. Can you even imagine this version of Kevin Love being more valuable than LeBron James?
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Speaking of, can you imagine if Ray Allen doesn't hit that 3?

We'd be sitting here talking about a guy that is 1-6 in the Finals, with his only win being against a team that is likely going to have a legacy for choking (not to mention when they were young).

That 3 was so big for Lebron's legacy.
I still can't decide which one I dislike more, his or Chalmers.

probably Chalmers....
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Speaking of, can you imagine if Ray Allen doesn't hit that 3?

We'd be sitting here talking about a guy that is 1-6 in the Finals, with his only win being against a team that is likely going to have a legacy for choking (not to mention when they were young).

That 3 was so big for Lebron's legacy.
Yeah, he'd go from getting shit on...to getting shit on?
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Exactly why I'm not giving him a pass for that.

I also don't agree that he doesn't have a "good supporting cast". It's not great, but it's better than most.
The supporting cast has a lot of talent. But the pieces fit together horribly. And the coaching has no idea how to use that talent.

For the record, these are not excuses because I gave lebron a hard time about these moves when they were made.
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