Chiefs Eric Berry has a Haglund’s deformity on his heel - Page 174

**DaFace** · 04:32 PM

Yes, it's in the other thread. Bite me.

https://www.arrowheadpride.com/2018/...ty-on-his-heel

REPORT: Eric Berry has a Haglund’s deformity on his heel
New information on Berry’s sore heel injury emerged on Saturday.
By Pete Sweeney Sep 29, 2018, 1:15pm CDT

Eric Berry has not practiced or played for the Kansas City Chiefs since August 11 in St. Joseph, Missouri, because of what the team has described as a “sore heel.”

The last we heard from the Chiefs athletic training staff was in early September, when head athletic trainer Rick Burkholder described the injury as “literally day to day.”

More information on Berry’s injury emerged Saturday morning, via NFL Network’s Mike Garafolo:

Mike Garafolo: “My understanding, and I’ve spoken to people familiar with his injury situation. He’s got what’s called a Haglund’s deformity in that Achilles. That’s a bone spur that basically digs into the Achilles. Shaun O’ Hara, our colleague at NFL Network, he had it. I spoke to him this week. He said it is extremely painful. He actually used a more colorful word that I won’t use here. It’s just something that continues to irritate the area. Some guys have been able to play with it—you get a shoe here or there, you can adjust … but that’s what’s going on. It’s going to be a pain management thing. It’s not like this thing will tear the Achilles necessarily. A lot of these cases don’t result in a tear, but that’s why with Berry right now, he has not played, and they’ve been doing OK. That’s going to allow them a little bit more patience with Berry, but it is extremely painful.”

This provides a little more clarity than Berry’s injury simply being a “sore heel,” which is good, but what’s bad is there still seems to be no timetable. Remember, Berry missed nearly the entirety of the 2017 season due to a ruptured Achilles on the other leg.

Chiefs head coach Andy Reid was mum on the injury when asked about it Saturday afternoon after the Chiefs’ final practice of the week.

Berry is officially ruled doubtful heading into the Monday night game against the Denver Broncos.

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Here are the notes from our in-house medical expert, Aaron Borgmann:

A lot of talk today regarding something known as a Haglund’s deformity. It was reported by a media source that the player in question suffers from this condition. This discussion is not to confirm or deny that possibility, as I can only explain the available information that we have been given. To be clear, the team has not confirmed this diagnosis and I have no advance knowledge of the player’s current condition.

The simple explanation here that it is indeed a bone spur on the backside of someone’s heel. This is frequently known as a “pump bump” from the occurrence that it is often seen in women’s fashion from the shoes that they wear. However, incidence in football players is also common, sometimes referred to as “retrocalcaneal bursitis” as well.

The bone spur irritates the bursa (fluid-filled sac) that sits between the bone and the tendon or even the tendon itself directly. This can cause a great deal of inflammation and discomfort with any sort of dynamic ankle/foot movement, worse with pressure on the spot itself.

Having one in and of itself it not uncommon, but the degree to which it bothers someone is the issue. Depending upon demands of movement, these can range from debilitating to just a nuisance. Obviously, in football players, the degree of inflammation is what dictates the level of function.

These are diagnosed both visually and radiographically and it is a situation where if you see it and player complains of certain symptoms (pain with movement in that exact spot, swelling, redness) then you can be pretty sure that is what it is.

Treatment focuses on reduction of inflammation obviously directly over the spot. This can be done both topically and through systemic medication. Soft tissue lengthening in both the calf and bottom of the foot is also done to alleviate the issue from both sides – this is due to the fact that both the calf and plantar fascia connect to the calcaneus (heel bone) on either side.

Not to be forgotten is footwear modification and adjustment. Very rigid shoes can cause this irritation, and in some athletes, I would even cut the shoe in the heel to allow room for the bump. Other options include specialized padding and friction reduction methods. Heel lifts have been shown to be helpful in some.

For this condition, non-surgical intervention is preferred to reduce the inflammation as opposed to surgical due to the immobilization period.

If the inflammation can be reduced and the function level high, many players learned to adapt their daily routines to accommodate. They may have to put in a bit more time in order to get ready due to the condition’s demands but can nonetheless get by and still perform at a high level.

O.city · 12-10-2018, 10:19 AM

I mean, what a complete cluster **** on all sides here. If he can't play this week, just IR the guy and schedule his surgery and be done with it.

Now he's gonna end up missing part of next year as well. That's gonna go down as the worst contract in not only football, but all of sports if that happens.

-King- · 12-10-2018, 10:20 AM

He'll play.
Posted via Mobile Device

TEX · 12-10-2018, 10:21 AM

We need to start a "KEEP ****ING DOUBTING ERIC BERRY" thread.

Most would say, "OK - WILL DO!"

FloridaMan88 · 12-10-2018, 10:22 AM

At this point there is no more "saving Eric Berry for the future" bullshit.

The future is Thursday... this is the game that will all but ensure that the playoffs go through Arrowhead with a win.

The play of the Chiefs safeties has never been worse, the offense is battling injuries and can't realistically be expected to score 40/50 points to compensate for a shitfest defense.

The time is now for Eric Berry to play.

**luv** · 12-10-2018, 10:23 AM

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Originally Posted by -King-

He'll play.
Posted via Mobile Device

At this point, I'm not holding my breath.

O.city · 12-10-2018, 10:23 AM

For what it's worth, I think Eric Berry will play on Thursday. Haven't felt that way all year. But obviously I get the skepticism until we see Eric Berry in a uniform playing in a game with at least two forms of government ID.
— Sam Mellinger (@mellinger) December 10, 2018

TEX · 12-10-2018, 10:28 AM

Quote:

Originally Posted by KCChiefsFan88

At this point there is no more "saving Eric Berry for the future" bullshit.

The future is Thursday... this is the game that will all but ensure that the playoffs go through Arrowhead with a win.

The play of the Chiefs safeties has never been worse, the offense is battling injuries and can't realistically be expected to score 40/50 points to compensate for a shitfest defense.

The time is now for Eric Berry to play.

Truth!
Dude, did you see that catch late in the game yesterday, by Snead or Crabtree, - Cant remember which one, but that's not important. The important thing is that the game was literally on the line... The guy catches the ball and falls down and here comes Parker and literally JUMPS OVER THE GUY and he gets back up and starts running for more yards...UN-****ING BELIEVEABLE!

Thank goodness he was tackled by other players, only having gained about 5 more yards, but still - Parker just JUMPED OVER HIM WITH THE GAME OB THE LINE! What a SHIT PLAYER!
You can't teach that kind of SUCK - you have to have some special God-Given TOTAL SHIT FOR BRAINS to MATCH YOUR SHIT LACK OF TALENT!

Imon Yourside · 12-10-2018, 10:28 AM

This IS the biggest game left on the schedule, it is now or never. We win this and it's pretty much a lock for HFA and can even lose to the Seahawks with no ill-effects unless you consider 13-3 ill.

**The Franchise** · 12-10-2018, 10:30 AM

Quote:

Originally Posted by O.city

For what it's worth, I think Eric Berry will play on Thursday. Haven't felt that way all year. But obviously I get the skepticism until we see Eric Berry in a uniform playing in a game with at least two forms of government ID.
— Sam Mellinger (@mellinger) December 10, 2018

He'll probably be in for 15-20 snaps and then be done for the night. And then we'll get a tweet the next week about how his ankle is inflamed and he's "day to day".

threebag · 12-10-2018, 12:12 PM

Probably tweak his shit first play. It’s time for a injury settlement and some ~~walking~~ hobbling papers.

**Bwana** · 12-10-2018, 12:21 PM

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Originally Posted by The Pest

He'll probably be in for 15-20 snaps and then be done for the night. And then we'll get a tweet the next week about how his ankle is inflamed and he's "day to day".

That's the way I see it (if) he chooses to play at all.

**SAUTO** · 12-10-2018, 12:25 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by O.city

Chiefs are hopeful but not certain that Eric Berry will make his 2018 debut against the Chargers on Thursday.
— Sam Mellinger (@mellinger) December 10, 2018

Yeah, i'm out on this. What a complete damn mishandling.

It's nuts. Everyone that talked about it yesterday acted like it's Berry's call

Iconic · 12-10-2018, 12:35 PM

When he eventually does take the field this season and it's absolutely magical all of you will fold like a lawn chair and suck each others dicks in this very same thread.

Overreaction planet never let's me down.

Direckshun · 12-10-2018, 12:40 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by O.city

For what it's worth, I think Eric Berry will play on Thursday. Haven't felt that way all year. But obviously I get the skepticism until we see Eric Berry in a uniform playing in a game with at least two forms of government ID.
— Sam Mellinger (@mellinger) December 10, 2018

Good lord.

Let's list the times we've heard this.

Chiefs were hoping he'd make Week 1.

Chiefs were thinking he'd return after the bye.

Now he's practicing, so he's a maybe for the Ravens game.

Then he was shooting for the Chargers game and now he's a maybe on that.

I ****KNOW**** I'm missing more. And I don't blame him for being injured. Just, the way this has been handled has been a disaster.

Chief Northman · 12-10-2018, 12:44 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by Iconic

When he eventually does take the field this season and it's absolutely magical all of you will fold like a lawn chair and suck each others dicks in this very same thread.

Overreaction planet never let's me down.

As magical as Sorenson’s legendary return.

09-29-2018, 01:06 PM
DaFace Kind of a mod Join Date: Aug 2005 Location: Donkey Land Casino cash: $1546899	Eric Berry has a Haglund’s deformity on his heel Yes, it's in the other thread. Bite me. https://www.arrowheadpride.com/2018/...ty-on-his-heel REPORT: Eric Berry has a Haglund’s deformity on his heel New information on Berry’s sore heel injury emerged on Saturday. By Pete Sweeney Sep 29, 2018, 1:15pm CDT Eric Berry has not practiced or played for the Kansas City Chiefs since August 11 in St. Joseph, Missouri, because of what the team has described as a “sore heel.” The last we heard from the Chiefs athletic training staff was in early September, when head athletic trainer Rick Burkholder described the injury as “literally day to day.” More information on Berry’s injury emerged Saturday morning, via NFL Network’s Mike Garafolo: Mike Garafolo: “My understanding, and I’ve spoken to people familiar with his injury situation. He’s got what’s called a Haglund’s deformity in that Achilles. That’s a bone spur that basically digs into the Achilles. Shaun O’ Hara, our colleague at NFL Network, he had it. I spoke to him this week. He said it is extremely painful. He actually used a more colorful word that I won’t use here. It’s just something that continues to irritate the area. Some guys have been able to play with it—you get a shoe here or there, you can adjust … but that’s what’s going on. It’s going to be a pain management thing. It’s not like this thing will tear the Achilles necessarily. A lot of these cases don’t result in a tear, but that’s why with Berry right now, he has not played, and they’ve been doing OK. That’s going to allow them a little bit more patience with Berry, but it is extremely painful.” This provides a little more clarity than Berry’s injury simply being a “sore heel,” which is good, but what’s bad is there still seems to be no timetable. Remember, Berry missed nearly the entirety of the 2017 season due to a ruptured Achilles on the other leg. Chiefs head coach Andy Reid was mum on the injury when asked about it Saturday afternoon after the Chiefs’ final practice of the week. Berry is officially ruled doubtful heading into the Monday night game against the Denver Broncos. ---- Here are the notes from our in-house medical expert, Aaron Borgmann: A lot of talk today regarding something known as a Haglund’s deformity. It was reported by a media source that the player in question suffers from this condition. This discussion is not to confirm or deny that possibility, as I can only explain the available information that we have been given. To be clear, the team has not confirmed this diagnosis and I have no advance knowledge of the player’s current condition. The simple explanation here that it is indeed a bone spur on the backside of someone’s heel. This is frequently known as a “pump bump” from the occurrence that it is often seen in women’s fashion from the shoes that they wear. However, incidence in football players is also common, sometimes referred to as “retrocalcaneal bursitis” as well. The bone spur irritates the bursa (fluid-filled sac) that sits between the bone and the tendon or even the tendon itself directly. This can cause a great deal of inflammation and discomfort with any sort of dynamic ankle/foot movement, worse with pressure on the spot itself. Having one in and of itself it not uncommon, but the degree to which it bothers someone is the issue. Depending upon demands of movement, these can range from debilitating to just a nuisance. Obviously, in football players, the degree of inflammation is what dictates the level of function. These are diagnosed both visually and radiographically and it is a situation where if you see it and player complains of certain symptoms (pain with movement in that exact spot, swelling, redness) then you can be pretty sure that is what it is. Treatment focuses on reduction of inflammation obviously directly over the spot. This can be done both topically and through systemic medication. Soft tissue lengthening in both the calf and bottom of the foot is also done to alleviate the issue from both sides – this is due to the fact that both the calf and plantar fascia connect to the calcaneus (heel bone) on either side. Not to be forgotten is footwear modification and adjustment. Very rigid shoes can cause this irritation, and in some athletes, I would even cut the shoe in the heel to allow room for the bump. Other options include specialized padding and friction reduction methods. Heel lifts have been shown to be helpful in some. For this condition, non-surgical intervention is preferred to reduce the inflammation as opposed to surgical due to the immobilization period. If the inflammation can be reduced and the function level high, many players learned to adapt their daily routines to accommodate. 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