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Old 04-15-2016, 08:57 PM  
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**2016 Official NBA Playoffs Thread**
Round 1:

EAST:

#8 Pistons @ #1 Cavs
#7 Pacers @ #2 Raptors
#6 Hornets @ #3 Heat
#5 Celtics @ #4 Hawks

WEST:
#8 Rockets @ #1 Warriors
#7 Grizzlies @ #2 Spurs
#6 Mavericks @ #3 Thunder
#5 Blazers @ #4 Clippers
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Old 06-06-2016, 03:20 PM   #2596
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Tge all-time great who has a dismal finals record and scored 19 points with 7 turnovers in game 2?
Case in point.
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Old 06-06-2016, 03:22 PM   #2597
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Case in point.

You would go off on derozan with a performance like that.

Why not Lebron? Oh, he's your golden boy.
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Old 06-06-2016, 03:24 PM   #2598
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You would go off on derozan with a performance like that.
For having a near triple double in 3 quarters while actually being a two-way basketball player for the first time in his life? Sounds unlikely.
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Old 06-06-2016, 03:24 PM   #2599
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By that logic, were the Mavs better than the Heat the year before then?
Well considering they beat them fair and square in 6.... Yes.

Obviously you don't agree, so is that one on Lebron?
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For having a near triple double in 3 quarters while actually being a two-way basketball player for the first time in his life? Sounds unlikely.

He had 7 turnovers as well.

And you don't want to admit it. Why are you trolling?
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I'm sure those stats would also say GS was significantly better than OKC this year.

You obviously disagree with that KCC.
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According to KC Connection 19 points 9 assist 8 reb and 7 turnovers is a good performance for an all-time great for an NBA Finals
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Well considering they beat them fair and square in 6.... Yes.
If the Mavs were a better team in your mind, then the label obviously couldn't apply there either.
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I'm sure those stats would also say GS was significantly better than OKC this year.

You obviously disagree with that KCC.
Playoff OKC was obviously a far different entity than the OKC that we saw for much of the season. There's a reason I thought the Thunder had no shot at doing what they did (knocking off the Spurs and almost doing the same to the Warriors), they had shown nothing like that kind of defense all season.
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If the Mavs were a better team in your mind, then the label obviously couldn't apply there either.
Lebron is the best player on all of those teams with a considerable amount of talent around him.

You can't just continue to use the "they lost to a better team" excuse at your convenience without acknowledging that part.

The problem is, your excuse for why his teams are inferior is always the guys around him.
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He had 7 turnovers as well.
DeRozan could make all the turnovers he wants if he's going to rebound, pass, and defend like LeBron James.
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For the record, I don't think James has nearly the killer instinct that Jordan has in the playoffs. And that's the problem. Jordan set an impossible precedent by making and winning the finals so many times in such a short period of time.

I'm just pointing out the silliness that his finals losses are treated more harshly than early exits. Because 2 for 6 in the finals sounds a lot worse than 2 for 4 in the finals, but that's silly logic.

I can't speak for LBJ apologists who will overhype him.
And I think you're underestimating the shit he'd take were he to have gone out there and had some 1 and dones or lost in more conference finals. Remember his last season in Cleveland before the decision when he had his odd no-show in Boston? Folks didn't exactly give him a pass for that.
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Lebron is the best player on all of those teams with a considerable amount of talent around him.

You can't just continue to use the "they lost to a better team" excuse at your convenience without acknowledging that part.
The best players don't win championships, the best teams do. LeBron has only been on a team better than his Finals opposition two times out of seven years. The fact that he has a 2-5 losing record (or will soon) is not only unsurprising considering that opposition, but completely expected.
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The best players don't win championships, the best teams do. LeBron has only been on a team better than his Finals opposition two times out of seven years. The fact that he has a 2-5 losing record (or will soon) is not only unsurprising considering that opposition, but completely expected.
So you think so highly of Lebron that you'll make every excuse in the book before you criticize him for anything, yet you have no expectations of him whatsoever if he's playing a team even a little better than his. It's a huge contradiction in a sport like basketball where one guy can take over a game and a series IMO. Very convenient outlook for a Stan like yourself.
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