Chiefs Eric Berry has a Haglund’s deformity on his heel - Page 172

**DaFace** · 04:32 PM

Yes, it's in the other thread. Bite me.

https://www.arrowheadpride.com/2018/...ty-on-his-heel

REPORT: Eric Berry has a Haglund’s deformity on his heel
New information on Berry’s sore heel injury emerged on Saturday.
By Pete Sweeney Sep 29, 2018, 1:15pm CDT

Eric Berry has not practiced or played for the Kansas City Chiefs since August 11 in St. Joseph, Missouri, because of what the team has described as a “sore heel.”

The last we heard from the Chiefs athletic training staff was in early September, when head athletic trainer Rick Burkholder described the injury as “literally day to day.”

More information on Berry’s injury emerged Saturday morning, via NFL Network’s Mike Garafolo:

Mike Garafolo: “My understanding, and I’ve spoken to people familiar with his injury situation. He’s got what’s called a Haglund’s deformity in that Achilles. That’s a bone spur that basically digs into the Achilles. Shaun O’ Hara, our colleague at NFL Network, he had it. I spoke to him this week. He said it is extremely painful. He actually used a more colorful word that I won’t use here. It’s just something that continues to irritate the area. Some guys have been able to play with it—you get a shoe here or there, you can adjust … but that’s what’s going on. It’s going to be a pain management thing. It’s not like this thing will tear the Achilles necessarily. A lot of these cases don’t result in a tear, but that’s why with Berry right now, he has not played, and they’ve been doing OK. That’s going to allow them a little bit more patience with Berry, but it is extremely painful.”

This provides a little more clarity than Berry’s injury simply being a “sore heel,” which is good, but what’s bad is there still seems to be no timetable. Remember, Berry missed nearly the entirety of the 2017 season due to a ruptured Achilles on the other leg.

Chiefs head coach Andy Reid was mum on the injury when asked about it Saturday afternoon after the Chiefs’ final practice of the week.

Berry is officially ruled doubtful heading into the Monday night game against the Denver Broncos.

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Here are the notes from our in-house medical expert, Aaron Borgmann:

A lot of talk today regarding something known as a Haglund’s deformity. It was reported by a media source that the player in question suffers from this condition. This discussion is not to confirm or deny that possibility, as I can only explain the available information that we have been given. To be clear, the team has not confirmed this diagnosis and I have no advance knowledge of the player’s current condition.

The simple explanation here that it is indeed a bone spur on the backside of someone’s heel. This is frequently known as a “pump bump” from the occurrence that it is often seen in women’s fashion from the shoes that they wear. However, incidence in football players is also common, sometimes referred to as “retrocalcaneal bursitis” as well.

The bone spur irritates the bursa (fluid-filled sac) that sits between the bone and the tendon or even the tendon itself directly. This can cause a great deal of inflammation and discomfort with any sort of dynamic ankle/foot movement, worse with pressure on the spot itself.

Having one in and of itself it not uncommon, but the degree to which it bothers someone is the issue. Depending upon demands of movement, these can range from debilitating to just a nuisance. Obviously, in football players, the degree of inflammation is what dictates the level of function.

These are diagnosed both visually and radiographically and it is a situation where if you see it and player complains of certain symptoms (pain with movement in that exact spot, swelling, redness) then you can be pretty sure that is what it is.

Treatment focuses on reduction of inflammation obviously directly over the spot. This can be done both topically and through systemic medication. Soft tissue lengthening in both the calf and bottom of the foot is also done to alleviate the issue from both sides – this is due to the fact that both the calf and plantar fascia connect to the calcaneus (heel bone) on either side.

Not to be forgotten is footwear modification and adjustment. Very rigid shoes can cause this irritation, and in some athletes, I would even cut the shoe in the heel to allow room for the bump. Other options include specialized padding and friction reduction methods. Heel lifts have been shown to be helpful in some.

For this condition, non-surgical intervention is preferred to reduce the inflammation as opposed to surgical due to the immobilization period.

If the inflammation can be reduced and the function level high, many players learned to adapt their daily routines to accommodate. They may have to put in a bit more time in order to get ready due to the condition’s demands but can nonetheless get by and still perform at a high level.

Sweet Daddy Hate · 12-09-2018, 11:04 PM

Glory, I need some clarification please.

I was told that Hobo and the Underpass Four would be playing live at Arrowhead in time for the playoffs. Then Hobo's fan club told me they'd be playing live for the Chargers game. Then they backed that ass up and told me that Hobo and U4 were pushing their debut ahead to the playoffs again?
This is very confusing. I'm sure glad I don't have to plan anything important around Hobo and his backup band, because that would be useless.

Also, does Hobo's fan club realize that for every week Hobo doesn't play live in December, his potential to have a very shitty show in January and be a liability to Stinky, Oddball, and Tumbleweed multiplies exponentially with each missed weekly gig?

Thaaaaaaaaaanx!

CasselGotPeedOn · 12-09-2018, 11:07 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by Hammock Parties

i have a good feeling about this

I said in the Chargers that that we're going to butt **** their grandma and eat their dog. Berry is gonna be the one to eat the dog.

GloryDayz · 12-09-2018, 11:08 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by Sweet Daddy Hate

Glory, I need some clarification please.

I was told that Hobo and the Underpass Four would be playing live at Arrowhead in time for the playoffs. Then Hobo's fan club told me they'd be playing live for the Chargers game. Then they backed that ass up and told me that Hobo and U4 were pushing their debut ahead to the playoffs again?
This is very confusing. I'm sure glad I don't have to plan anything important around Hobo and his backup band, because that would be useless.

Also, does Hobo's fan club realize that for every week Hobo doesn't play live in December, his potential to have a very shitty show in January and be a liability to Stinky, Oddball, and Tumbleweed multiplies exponentially with each missed weekly gig?

Thaaaaaaaaaanx!

big nasty kcnut · 12-09-2018, 11:20 PM

Eric berry gonna rape!

GloryDayz · 12-09-2018, 11:23 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by big nasty kcnut

Eric berry gonna rape!

The team's budget?

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LiveSteam · 12-09-2018, 11:26 PM

Is the old man gonna play this year or not?

Flying High D · 12-09-2018, 11:29 PM

Need to get Cornbreads feedback, back brief and/or input on this intel, ASAP.

Coach · 12-09-2018, 11:29 PM

This dude better be on the field, playing on Thursday.

No more excuses.

MGRS13 · 12-09-2018, 11:30 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by LiveSteam

Is the old man gonna play this year or not?

I'm sure you'd make excuses for him if he was white. Go back to the DC foroum and burn some crosses you rasict prick. Plus your a foamer. Jackass

Flying High D · 12-09-2018, 11:43 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by Hammock Parties

i have a good feeling about this

Did you read Cornbreads or Oddballs lips to the left of EB?

He said, “How does it feel to sucker another game check out of Chunt? I’m going to get some nachos can I have another grand?”

Sweet Daddy Hate · 12-10-2018, 12:06 AM

Quote:

Originally Posted by Flying High D

Need to get Cornbreads feedback, back brief and/or input on this intel, ASAP.

I left Cornbread out because word on the street is that he's headed to Miami for the deep winter and won't be coming back again until late Spring if even that.

Flying High D · 12-10-2018, 01:35 AM

Word up.

BlackOp · 12-10-2018, 02:22 AM

Quote:

Originally Posted by Coach

This dude better be on the field, playing on Thursday.

No more excuses.

I dont understand what 4 days really matters....his ass should have taken some snaps today.

Is it for some headline grabbing bullshit?

kccrow · 12-10-2018, 02:26 AM

I'm honestly over Eric Berry. Cut him in the offseason, gain some cap space, and get someone in here that will play games.

MMXcalibur · 12-10-2018, 02:33 AM

If Berry's not out there on Thursday, I'm finally, completely, and totally going to need to wait another week or two for him to come back.

09-29-2018, 01:06 PM
DaFace Kind of a mod Join Date: Aug 2005 Location: Donkey Land Casino cash: $1736899	Eric Berry has a Haglund’s deformity on his heel Yes, it's in the other thread. Bite me. https://www.arrowheadpride.com/2018/...ty-on-his-heel REPORT: Eric Berry has a Haglund’s deformity on his heel New information on Berry’s sore heel injury emerged on Saturday. By Pete Sweeney Sep 29, 2018, 1:15pm CDT Eric Berry has not practiced or played for the Kansas City Chiefs since August 11 in St. Joseph, Missouri, because of what the team has described as a “sore heel.” The last we heard from the Chiefs athletic training staff was in early September, when head athletic trainer Rick Burkholder described the injury as “literally day to day.” More information on Berry’s injury emerged Saturday morning, via NFL Network’s Mike Garafolo: Mike Garafolo: “My understanding, and I’ve spoken to people familiar with his injury situation. He’s got what’s called a Haglund’s deformity in that Achilles. That’s a bone spur that basically digs into the Achilles. Shaun O’ Hara, our colleague at NFL Network, he had it. I spoke to him this week. He said it is extremely painful. He actually used a more colorful word that I won’t use here. It’s just something that continues to irritate the area. Some guys have been able to play with it—you get a shoe here or there, you can adjust … but that’s what’s going on. It’s going to be a pain management thing. It’s not like this thing will tear the Achilles necessarily. A lot of these cases don’t result in a tear, but that’s why with Berry right now, he has not played, and they’ve been doing OK. That’s going to allow them a little bit more patience with Berry, but it is extremely painful.” This provides a little more clarity than Berry’s injury simply being a “sore heel,” which is good, but what’s bad is there still seems to be no timetable. Remember, Berry missed nearly the entirety of the 2017 season due to a ruptured Achilles on the other leg. Chiefs head coach Andy Reid was mum on the injury when asked about it Saturday afternoon after the Chiefs’ final practice of the week. Berry is officially ruled doubtful heading into the Monday night game against the Denver Broncos. ---- Here are the notes from our in-house medical expert, Aaron Borgmann: A lot of talk today regarding something known as a Haglund’s deformity. It was reported by a media source that the player in question suffers from this condition. This discussion is not to confirm or deny that possibility, as I can only explain the available information that we have been given. To be clear, the team has not confirmed this diagnosis and I have no advance knowledge of the player’s current condition. The simple explanation here that it is indeed a bone spur on the backside of someone’s heel. This is frequently known as a “pump bump” from the occurrence that it is often seen in women’s fashion from the shoes that they wear. However, incidence in football players is also common, sometimes referred to as “retrocalcaneal bursitis” as well. The bone spur irritates the bursa (fluid-filled sac) that sits between the bone and the tendon or even the tendon itself directly. This can cause a great deal of inflammation and discomfort with any sort of dynamic ankle/foot movement, worse with pressure on the spot itself. Having one in and of itself it not uncommon, but the degree to which it bothers someone is the issue. Depending upon demands of movement, these can range from debilitating to just a nuisance. Obviously, in football players, the degree of inflammation is what dictates the level of function. These are diagnosed both visually and radiographically and it is a situation where if you see it and player complains of certain symptoms (pain with movement in that exact spot, swelling, redness) then you can be pretty sure that is what it is. Treatment focuses on reduction of inflammation obviously directly over the spot. This can be done both topically and through systemic medication. Soft tissue lengthening in both the calf and bottom of the foot is also done to alleviate the issue from both sides – this is due to the fact that both the calf and plantar fascia connect to the calcaneus (heel bone) on either side. Not to be forgotten is footwear modification and adjustment. Very rigid shoes can cause this irritation, and in some athletes, I would even cut the shoe in the heel to allow room for the bump. Other options include specialized padding and friction reduction methods. Heel lifts have been shown to be helpful in some. For this condition, non-surgical intervention is preferred to reduce the inflammation as opposed to surgical due to the immobilization period. If the inflammation can be reduced and the function level high, many players learned to adapt their daily routines to accommodate. They may have to put in a bit more time in order to get ready due to the condition’s demands but can nonetheless get by and still perform at a high level. Last edited by DaFace; 09-29-2018 at 04:32 PM..
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