Chiefs Eric Berry has a Haglund’s deformity on his heel - Page 170

**DaFace** · 04:32 PM

Yes, it's in the other thread. Bite me.

https://www.arrowheadpride.com/2018/...ty-on-his-heel

REPORT: Eric Berry has a Haglund’s deformity on his heel
New information on Berry’s sore heel injury emerged on Saturday.
By Pete Sweeney Sep 29, 2018, 1:15pm CDT

Eric Berry has not practiced or played for the Kansas City Chiefs since August 11 in St. Joseph, Missouri, because of what the team has described as a “sore heel.”

The last we heard from the Chiefs athletic training staff was in early September, when head athletic trainer Rick Burkholder described the injury as “literally day to day.”

More information on Berry’s injury emerged Saturday morning, via NFL Network’s Mike Garafolo:

Mike Garafolo: “My understanding, and I’ve spoken to people familiar with his injury situation. He’s got what’s called a Haglund’s deformity in that Achilles. That’s a bone spur that basically digs into the Achilles. Shaun O’ Hara, our colleague at NFL Network, he had it. I spoke to him this week. He said it is extremely painful. He actually used a more colorful word that I won’t use here. It’s just something that continues to irritate the area. Some guys have been able to play with it—you get a shoe here or there, you can adjust … but that’s what’s going on. It’s going to be a pain management thing. It’s not like this thing will tear the Achilles necessarily. A lot of these cases don’t result in a tear, but that’s why with Berry right now, he has not played, and they’ve been doing OK. That’s going to allow them a little bit more patience with Berry, but it is extremely painful.”

This provides a little more clarity than Berry’s injury simply being a “sore heel,” which is good, but what’s bad is there still seems to be no timetable. Remember, Berry missed nearly the entirety of the 2017 season due to a ruptured Achilles on the other leg.

Chiefs head coach Andy Reid was mum on the injury when asked about it Saturday afternoon after the Chiefs’ final practice of the week.

Berry is officially ruled doubtful heading into the Monday night game against the Denver Broncos.

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Here are the notes from our in-house medical expert, Aaron Borgmann:

A lot of talk today regarding something known as a Haglund’s deformity. It was reported by a media source that the player in question suffers from this condition. This discussion is not to confirm or deny that possibility, as I can only explain the available information that we have been given. To be clear, the team has not confirmed this diagnosis and I have no advance knowledge of the player’s current condition.

The simple explanation here that it is indeed a bone spur on the backside of someone’s heel. This is frequently known as a “pump bump” from the occurrence that it is often seen in women’s fashion from the shoes that they wear. However, incidence in football players is also common, sometimes referred to as “retrocalcaneal bursitis” as well.

The bone spur irritates the bursa (fluid-filled sac) that sits between the bone and the tendon or even the tendon itself directly. This can cause a great deal of inflammation and discomfort with any sort of dynamic ankle/foot movement, worse with pressure on the spot itself.

Having one in and of itself it not uncommon, but the degree to which it bothers someone is the issue. Depending upon demands of movement, these can range from debilitating to just a nuisance. Obviously, in football players, the degree of inflammation is what dictates the level of function.

These are diagnosed both visually and radiographically and it is a situation where if you see it and player complains of certain symptoms (pain with movement in that exact spot, swelling, redness) then you can be pretty sure that is what it is.

Treatment focuses on reduction of inflammation obviously directly over the spot. This can be done both topically and through systemic medication. Soft tissue lengthening in both the calf and bottom of the foot is also done to alleviate the issue from both sides – this is due to the fact that both the calf and plantar fascia connect to the calcaneus (heel bone) on either side.

Not to be forgotten is footwear modification and adjustment. Very rigid shoes can cause this irritation, and in some athletes, I would even cut the shoe in the heel to allow room for the bump. Other options include specialized padding and friction reduction methods. Heel lifts have been shown to be helpful in some.

For this condition, non-surgical intervention is preferred to reduce the inflammation as opposed to surgical due to the immobilization period.

If the inflammation can be reduced and the function level high, many players learned to adapt their daily routines to accommodate. They may have to put in a bit more time in order to get ready due to the condition’s demands but can nonetheless get by and still perform at a high level.

Sweet Daddy Hate · 12-09-2018, 04:31 PM

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Originally Posted by mlyonsd

I would hope after standing around in sweats he'd play after watching Hill tough it out limping around making plays.

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Originally Posted by dwwataz

No kidding. Took it like a man and helped Pat win the game for us

YOU TWO ARE BEING SO INSENSITIVE! WHY ARE YOU DOGGING TUMBLEWEED AND STINKY'S BEST FRIEND?!?!?!?!

NJChiefsFan · 12-09-2018, 04:40 PM

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Originally Posted by GloryDayz

So basically I still have the same number of tackles as Haglund, the same number of pressures, the same number of INTs, a better shave, and one less called penalty against my number?

Yeah, that's right.

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Originally Posted by Sweet Daddy Hate

They are clearly playing the long game here. Even if you don't agree, at this point for your own blood pressure it's probably a decent idea to let it play out. At this point, assuming Berry gets the rust off before the playoffs, it's been the right decision to let him rest.

DRM08 · 12-09-2018, 04:42 PM

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Originally Posted by mlyonsd

I would hope after standing around in sweats he'd play after watching Hill tough it out limping around making plays.

Tyreek doing that on a joke salary too compared to Berry getting paid $13m+ to stand on the sidelines.

Sweet Daddy Hate · 12-09-2018, 04:47 PM

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Originally Posted by NJChiefsFan

They are clearly playing the long game here.

If by "long game" you mean, "waiting for the sun to go nova", then yeah!

NJChiefsFan · 12-09-2018, 04:48 PM

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Originally Posted by Sweet Daddy Hate

If by "long game" you mean, "waiting for the sun to go nova", then yeah!

What is wrong about that comment. They are waiting until the end of the season to hope he can make it through the pain all through the playoffs.

Whether you agree, whether you think it will work, it's what they are doing.

Sweet Daddy Hate · 12-09-2018, 05:01 PM

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Originally Posted by NJChiefsFan

What is wrong about that comment. They are waiting until the end of the season to hope he can make it through the pain all through the playoffs.

Whether you agree, whether you think it will work, it's what they are doing.

Nothing wrong, I'm just laughing about that part where you think he's going to play a full game in 2018.

NJChiefsFan · 12-09-2018, 05:06 PM

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Originally Posted by Sweet Daddy Hate

Nothing wrong, I'm just laughing about that part where you think he's going to play a full game in 2018.

And if he does? Will you acknowledge it with the same hoopla and fireworks that you will if he doesn't?

Sweet Daddy Hate · 12-09-2018, 05:15 PM

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Originally Posted by NJChiefsFan

And if he does? Will you acknowledge it with the same hoopla and fireworks that you will if he doesn't?

Doubtful. The running joke is far more entertaining and productive than Berry actually playing at this point will be. People act like almost 2 seasons out is no big deal. People are dumb like that though.

Flying High D · 12-09-2018, 05:36 PM

Was that Oddball or Cornbread talking to him on the sideline today?

Sweet Daddy Hate · 12-09-2018, 05:47 PM

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Originally Posted by Flying High D

Was that Oddball or Cornbread talking to him on the sideline today?

Not sure. I may have missed that. Will need pics to verify.

Flying High D · 12-09-2018, 05:54 PM

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Originally Posted by Sweet Daddy Hate

Not sure. I may have missed that. Will need pics to verify.

It was when he was chewing on a big greenish yellowish neon glob, that actually might of been his Haglund Deformity relocating to his uvula.

Sweet Daddy Hate · 12-09-2018, 05:58 PM

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Originally Posted by Flying High D

It was when he was chewing on a big greenish yellowish neon glob, that actually might of been his Haglund Deformity relocating to his uvula.

Actually, Imma' pass on them pics.

Pasta Little Brioni · 12-09-2018, 06:08 PM

Meanwhile...Glory called in with gout

GloryDayz · 12-09-2018, 06:09 PM

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Originally Posted by dwwataz

Supposedly he's playing Thursday..

That's about 3.5 days to talk himself out of coming off of vacation as I see it.

But hey, if he does that's his chance to take the lead over me in every Stat except for money-made.

I'll keep the pressure up, maybe he'll break down and play a snap or two.

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GloryDayz · 12-09-2018, 06:10 PM

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Originally Posted by mlyonsd

I would hope after standing around in sweats he'd play after watching Hill tough it out limping around making plays.

Not the same thing, Berry's been paid...

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09-29-2018, 01:06 PM
DaFace Kind of a mod Join Date: Aug 2005 Location: Donkey Land Casino cash: $516899	Eric Berry has a Haglund’s deformity on his heel Yes, it's in the other thread. Bite me. https://www.arrowheadpride.com/2018/...ty-on-his-heel REPORT: Eric Berry has a Haglund’s deformity on his heel New information on Berry’s sore heel injury emerged on Saturday. By Pete Sweeney Sep 29, 2018, 1:15pm CDT Eric Berry has not practiced or played for the Kansas City Chiefs since August 11 in St. Joseph, Missouri, because of what the team has described as a “sore heel.” The last we heard from the Chiefs athletic training staff was in early September, when head athletic trainer Rick Burkholder described the injury as “literally day to day.” More information on Berry’s injury emerged Saturday morning, via NFL Network’s Mike Garafolo: Mike Garafolo: “My understanding, and I’ve spoken to people familiar with his injury situation. He’s got what’s called a Haglund’s deformity in that Achilles. That’s a bone spur that basically digs into the Achilles. Shaun O’ Hara, our colleague at NFL Network, he had it. I spoke to him this week. He said it is extremely painful. He actually used a more colorful word that I won’t use here. It’s just something that continues to irritate the area. Some guys have been able to play with it—you get a shoe here or there, you can adjust … but that’s what’s going on. It’s going to be a pain management thing. It’s not like this thing will tear the Achilles necessarily. A lot of these cases don’t result in a tear, but that’s why with Berry right now, he has not played, and they’ve been doing OK. That’s going to allow them a little bit more patience with Berry, but it is extremely painful.” This provides a little more clarity than Berry’s injury simply being a “sore heel,” which is good, but what’s bad is there still seems to be no timetable. Remember, Berry missed nearly the entirety of the 2017 season due to a ruptured Achilles on the other leg. Chiefs head coach Andy Reid was mum on the injury when asked about it Saturday afternoon after the Chiefs’ final practice of the week. Berry is officially ruled doubtful heading into the Monday night game against the Denver Broncos. ---- Here are the notes from our in-house medical expert, Aaron Borgmann: A lot of talk today regarding something known as a Haglund’s deformity. It was reported by a media source that the player in question suffers from this condition. This discussion is not to confirm or deny that possibility, as I can only explain the available information that we have been given. To be clear, the team has not confirmed this diagnosis and I have no advance knowledge of the player’s current condition. The simple explanation here that it is indeed a bone spur on the backside of someone’s heel. This is frequently known as a “pump bump” from the occurrence that it is often seen in women’s fashion from the shoes that they wear. However, incidence in football players is also common, sometimes referred to as “retrocalcaneal bursitis” as well. The bone spur irritates the bursa (fluid-filled sac) that sits between the bone and the tendon or even the tendon itself directly. This can cause a great deal of inflammation and discomfort with any sort of dynamic ankle/foot movement, worse with pressure on the spot itself. Having one in and of itself it not uncommon, but the degree to which it bothers someone is the issue. Depending upon demands of movement, these can range from debilitating to just a nuisance. Obviously, in football players, the degree of inflammation is what dictates the level of function. These are diagnosed both visually and radiographically and it is a situation where if you see it and player complains of certain symptoms (pain with movement in that exact spot, swelling, redness) then you can be pretty sure that is what it is. Treatment focuses on reduction of inflammation obviously directly over the spot. This can be done both topically and through systemic medication. Soft tissue lengthening in both the calf and bottom of the foot is also done to alleviate the issue from both sides – this is due to the fact that both the calf and plantar fascia connect to the calcaneus (heel bone) on either side. Not to be forgotten is footwear modification and adjustment. Very rigid shoes can cause this irritation, and in some athletes, I would even cut the shoe in the heel to allow room for the bump. Other options include specialized padding and friction reduction methods. Heel lifts have been shown to be helpful in some. For this condition, non-surgical intervention is preferred to reduce the inflammation as opposed to surgical due to the immobilization period. If the inflammation can be reduced and the function level high, many players learned to adapt their daily routines to accommodate. 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