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Yes, he offers us a real shot at a Championship 29 21.80%
No, Alex is the man 82 61.65%
Doesn't matter ,either way we suck 9 6.77%
I would like to order a few bags of boar #1725 13 9.77%
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Old 11-05-2016, 05:49 PM  
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Do you Hope Foles Takes over the QB position ?
Just a question.
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Old 11-06-2016, 11:26 PM   #241
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You mean he played behind an elite defense and vinatieri did all the clutch work. Facts. It wasn't until year 6 that Brady really showed elite QB play, prior to that BB had him play like a game manager
Horseshit. He did have a great defense, but Brady was no Brad Johnson level Super Bowl quarterback his first years in the game.

Stop trying to de-value Brady in an attempt to make Alex look better just because Alex's stats were in the same relative ballpark as his. You look ridiculous trying to do it.
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Old 11-06-2016, 11:32 PM   #242
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Horseshit. He did have a great defense, but Brady was no Brad Johnson level Super Bowl quarterback his first years in the game.

Stop trying to de-value Brady in an attempt to make Alex look better just because Alex's stats were in the same relative ballpark as his. You look ridiculous trying to do it.
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Old 11-06-2016, 11:36 PM   #243
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I went ahead and did the legwork on how many come from behind wins each guy has, total

Alex = 16 career come from behind wins
Brady = 37

Since 2013 when Alex got here

Alex = 6 come from behind wins
Brady = 12

http://www.pro-football-reference.co...cks_career.htm

Not that anyone really needed to see this graphic to understand Alex isn't in the same league as Brady. Well, anyone other than TigerUpperBob, that is.
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Old 11-06-2016, 11:43 PM   #244
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I went ahead and did the legwork on how many come from behind wins each guy has, total

Alex = 16 career come from behind wins
Brady = 37

Since 2013 when Alex got here

Alex = 6 come from behind wins
Brady = 12

http://www.pro-football-reference.co...cks_career.htm

Not that anyone really needed to see this graphic to understand Alex isn't in the same league as Brady. Well, anyone other than TigerUpperBob, that is.
This is the point where bob just leaves in shame.
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Old 11-07-2016, 12:08 AM   #245
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You mean he played behind an elite defense and vinatieri did all the clutch work. Facts. It wasn't until year 6 that Brady really showed elite QB play, prior to that BB had him play like a game manager
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Old 11-07-2016, 12:09 AM   #246
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I went ahead and did the legwork on how many come from behind wins each guy has, total

Alex = 16 career come from behind wins
Brady = 37

Since 2013 when Alex got here

Alex = 6 come from behind wins
Brady = 12

http://www.pro-football-reference.co...cks_career.htm

Not that anyone really needed to see this graphic to understand Alex isn't in the same league as Brady. Well, anyone other than TigerUpperBob, that is.
In most of those comeback wins, Adam Vinatieri drove the ball downfield to set up his own field goal.
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Old 11-07-2016, 05:30 AM   #247
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You really just did compare Alex Smith to Tom Brady, didn't you. Holy shit ****.

Alex is good, even great on that rare occasion, but he is not worthy of being compared to a future first ballot Hall of Famer, and arguably one of the top three best quarterbacks of this generation. Like, ever.

But since you asked, I'll answer with a question of my own - In how many of those wins and Super Bowl victories did Brady bring his team back from behind as compared to Alex in the same time frame? We'll all wait here as you search for the answer.
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I spot Alex Smith PRIME YEARS, the following players:

Jerry Rice
Randy Moss
Wes Welker in the slot
Marcus Allen
The entire 2003 Chiefs O-line
The entire 1997 Chiefs defense WITH Neil Smith.

The result?

Reid gonna' Reid, and Smith gonna Smith.

Absolute Ceiling:

AFCCG LOSS.

There it is. The hard, unyielding truth that you must and will accept.

Good day sirs.
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Old 11-07-2016, 08:55 AM   #248
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Tigger and Dane(unfortunately)are full reerun in the football department these days, sadly. I love Dane, but here we go:

I spot Alex Smith PRIME YEARS, the following players:

Jerry Rice
Randy Moss
Wes Welker in the slot
Marcus Allen
The entire 2003 Chiefs O-line
The entire 1997 Chiefs defense WITH Neil Smith.

The result?

Reid gonna' Reid, and Smith gonna Smith.

Absolute Ceiling:

AFCCG LOSS.

There it is. The hard, unyielding truth that you must and will accept.

Good day sirs.
Alex Smith got to the NFCCG with a lot less. You underestimate him due to your bias.
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Old 11-07-2016, 09:48 AM   #249
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In most of those comeback wins, Adam Vinatieri drove the ball downfield to set up his own field goal.
You're not helping your case. I provided statistical facts that showed BB did not use Brady as a gun slinger in those first 4-5 seasons. thus he played like an elite game manager. Russell Wilson type numbers his first two seasons.

How is this hard to understand??
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Old 11-07-2016, 10:48 AM   #250
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You're not helping your case. I provided statistical facts that showed BB did not use Brady as a gun slinger in those first 4-5 seasons. thus he played like an elite game manager. Russell Wilson type numbers his first two seasons.

How is this hard to understand??
Tom Brady's first 5 seasons in the league -

2001 - 2,843 yds, 18 TD's, 12 INT's
2002 - 3,764 yds, 28 TD's, 14 INT's
2003 - 3,620 yds, 23 TD's, 12 INT's
2004 - 3,692 yds, 28 TD's, 14 INT's
2005 - 4,110 yds, 26 TD's, 14 INT's

Alex Smith's 5 BEST STATISTICAL seasons in the league (noting that Alex has started 16 games only three times in his 12 year career) -

2011 - 3,144 yds, 17 TD's, 5 INT's
2012 - 1,737 yds, 13 TD's, 5 INT's (10 games started)
2013 - 3,313 yds, 23 TD's, 7 INT's
2014 - 3,265 yds, 18 TD's, 6 INT's
2015 - 3,486 yds, 20 TD's, 7 INT's (noting he threw the ball 78 more times than he did in '14 for 221 more yards in '15)

And just for shits and grins, Russell Wilson's first four years in the league -

2012 - 3,118 yds, 26 TD's, 10 INT's
2013 - 3,357 yds, 26 TD's, 9 INT's
2014 - 3,475 yds, 20 TD's, 7 INT's
2015 - 4,024 yds, 34 TD's, 8 INT's
BONUS - Russell Wilson has the exact same number of come from behind wins in 4+ seasons as Alex Smith does in 12 seasons with 16


So in conclusion, get the **** out of here with this silly ass shit.
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Foles was awful. He'd get slaughtered by a winning team.
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Old 11-07-2016, 10:58 AM   #252
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Foles was awful. He'd get slaughtered by a winning team.
Yep, no difference.
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Tigger and Dane(unfortunately)are full reerun in the football department these days, sadly. I love Dane, but here we go:
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I went ahead and did the legwork on how many come from behind wins each guy has, total

Alex = 16 career come from behind wins
Brady = 37

Since 2013 when Alex got here

Alex = 6 come from behind wins
Brady = 12

http://www.pro-football-reference.co...cks_career.htm

Not that anyone really needed to see this graphic to understand Alex isn't in the same league as Brady. Well, anyone other than TigerUpperBob, that is.
Man, I really hope you didn't spend too much time on trying to make that case that other QB's aren't as necessarily good as Tom Brady.
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You're not helping your case. I provided statistical facts that showed BB did not use Brady as a gun slinger in those first 4-5 seasons. thus he played like an elite game manager. Russell Wilson type numbers his first two seasons.

How is this hard to understand??
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