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Old 09-14-2016, 10:19 AM  
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VFW to boycott Chiefs etc

Apparently VFW halls are going to boycott any team that protest during the national Anthem.

Chiefs,Seattle,49ers etc
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Old 09-17-2016, 05:21 PM   #241
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Old 09-17-2016, 05:30 PM   #242
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I think this protest needs to end now, but the cops in this country need to clean up their act. The racist treatment is deplorable. The right wing racists in America have gone over the edge. It's despicable.
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Old 09-17-2016, 05:34 PM   #243
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* Hold a presser off duty.

* Let TMZ catch him on the streets so he could explain his $1M donation to "whatever."

* Start spending countless hours in the hot zone teaching kids how to be awesome.

And that's just a few.
No, this clearly has gotten the attention it deserved and has started a conversation for people who otherwise would have ignored it if CK never did what he did. The whole point of a protest is to bring attention to something. He has done that while being peaceful and articulating his thoughts really well.
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Old 09-17-2016, 05:56 PM   #244
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Why is she covering her face? Did she have acid thrown on her face as a child or something?
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Old 09-17-2016, 05:58 PM   #245
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One example does not mean all of them feel that way. The world isn't that cut and dried, there are a lot of gray areas, yet people think in very binary terms as if everyone has one view or the other, as if there are only the two extremes.

I respect the police and understand all they do for us. But if you aren't disturbed by what the few bad ones do there is something wrong. And if we, as Americans, can't complain about the bad ones without being accused of attacking the good ones there is something wrong. And that is the place this country is right now.

We have to stop seeing everything as Us vs.Them, and stop seeing people who disagree as the enemy.
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Old 09-17-2016, 06:23 PM   #246
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One example does not mean all of them feel that way. The world isn't that cut and dried, there are a lot of gray areas, yet people think in very binary terms as if everyone has one view or the other, as if there are only the two extremes.

I respect the police and understand all they do for us. But if you aren't disturbed by what the few bad ones do there is something wrong. And if we, as Americans, can't complain about the bad ones without being accused of attacking the good ones there is something wrong. And that is the place this country is right now.

We have to stop seeing everything as Us vs.Them, and stop seeing people who disagree as the enemy.
Why do you think people are critical of the object and manner of the protest.

If what you want is nuance, you don't say the entire nation is oppressive and purposefully refuse to honor the anthem and flag. If what you want is rationale discourse, you don't say you will continue the same until things are 'better' without any indication what better is.

A good majority of the people critical of this aren't even against what some of his aims might be. Believe it or not, people around the nation have ALREADY had heartfelt conversation, and I'm sure suffered many sleepless nights concerned with the tension between minorities communities and law enforcement. So part of the offense is this fawning because a jock mumbled out a half-formed thought and bared his booty-hole like he was some sort of pioneer.
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Old 09-17-2016, 06:35 PM   #247
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Why do you think people are critical of the object and manner of the protest.

If what you want is nuance, you don't say the entire nation is oppressive and purposefully refuse to honor the anthem and flag. If what you want is rationale discourse, you don't say you will continue the same until things are 'better' without any indication what better is.

I make a post saying we need to come together and stop seeing everything as Us vs.Them and I get attacked. This is what is wrong with this country right now. You can't even be reasonable and non-partisan without being attacked. Did you even see the post I was replying to? Do you understand what I was replying to at all?
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Old 09-17-2016, 06:42 PM   #248
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I make a post saying we need to come together and stop seeing everything as Us vs.Them and I get attacked. This is what is wrong with this country right now. You can't even be reasonable and non-partisan without being attacked. Did you even see the post I was replying to? Do you understand what I was replying to at all?
Did someone attack you?

If you can't see my post as supplemental advice reinforcing your expressed sentiment, one might get the sense that when you say 'stop seeing us-v-them' you actually mean 'stop thinking and get on board with us or you're just a them.'
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Old 09-17-2016, 06:54 PM   #249
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No, this clearly has gotten the attention it deserved and has started a conversation for people who otherwise would have ignored it if CK never did what he did. The whole point of a protest is to bring attention to something. He has done that while being peaceful and articulating his thoughts really well.
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He's made me donate more money to the cops because they're awesome!

He brought attention to a non-problem. That's stupid... Cops are great. Cops are wonderful. Cops to great things. That's the end of the story. I fully support them, and I hope they take a larger stand against shitty people.
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Old 09-17-2016, 06:55 PM   #250
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Why is she covering her face? Did she have acid thrown on her face as a child or something?
She's a liberal.
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He's made me donate more money to the cops because they're awesome!

He brought attention to a non-problem. That's stupid... Cops are great. Cops are wonderful. Cops to great things. That's the end of the story. I fully support them, and I hope they take a larger stand against shitty people.
Me too. And I hope people take a stand against shitty cops. Glad we can agree.
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Old 09-17-2016, 07:01 PM   #252
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I suspect we're on the opposite ends actually. I support cops and the way they do things now, I think you don't like it.

But you'll be one of the first to whine next time a cops takes a knee about something...
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Old 09-17-2016, 07:02 PM   #253
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Did someone attack you?

If you can't see my post as supplemental advice reinforcing your expressed sentiment, one might get the sense that when you say 'stop seeing us-v-them' you actually mean 'stop thinking and get on board with us or you're just a them.'
I'm not part of any "us". That was my point.
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Why is she covering her face? Did she have acid thrown on her face as a child or something?

She's a social justice warrior.
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I'm not part of any "us". That was my point.
They why did you say you were attacked? Why was my sensible advice the epitome of what's wrong with the country? For that matter, how is characterizing me as what is wrong with the country NOT an attack?
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