The Super Bowl was rigged...

[B2chiefsfan]

That is all...

[Easy 6]

Originally Posted by smellypitts

Bias is rigging. It's the same thing. You can't have one without the other

A game can absolutely be "guided" a certain way without a blatant, predetermined WWE outcome... not ONE dinver penalty in the entire second half?

Please

If it looks bad, and smells bad... it just might be bad

[TEX]

Originally Posted by DaFace

Na, they're two different things.

Biased: "Peyton Manning has been in the league a long time and is a stand up guy, so if he thinks a flag should have been thrown, and it was iffy to me, I'll give him the benefit of the doubt."

Rigged: "Any time there's a close call, I'm going to intentionally rule in the Broncos favor to help them win the game."

I get your point. There are different degrees but it's still slants the game. Does it not? Especially if the same considerations aren't given to the other side?

[DaFace]

Originally Posted by TEX

I get your point. There are different degrees but it's still slants the game. Does it not? Especially if the same considerations aren't given to the other side?

Oh, it still sucks for sure. One's just unintentional (and hard to prevent), while the other is blatant (and can theoretically result in punishment if caught).

[Toby Waller]

Originally Posted by Easy 6

A game can absolutely be "guided" a certain way without a blatant, predetermined WWE outcome... not ONE dinver penalty in the entire second half?

Please

If it looks bad, and smells bad... it just might be bad

Yes,I just said that. Did I just Jedi mind trick you, without even trying?

[Easy 6]

Originally Posted by smellypitts

Yes,I just said that. Did I just Jedi mind trick you, without even trying?

You are braindead, you make me actually kind of appreciate Knowmo

[RippedmyFlesh]

Originally Posted by ODESSABRONC

This is unintelligent.

So denver wins the sb and you come out but hide all the other time. Chicken shit donks fan.

[GloryDayz]

Rigged is such a strong word... It's a game folks!! The NFL is in the entertainment business (it's been litigated for Pete's sake!!), let it go.

We all woke up this morning and the sun rose, so it's a good day! But a better day for Donk fans. We were there just a few months ago, so it's cool..

[jd1020]

Originally Posted by GloryDayz

We all woke up this morning and the sun rose, so it's a good day! But a better day for Donk fans. We were there just a few months ago, so it's cool..

Most of us have never been there.

[TEX]

Originally Posted by DaFace

Oh, it still sucks for sure. One's just unintentional (and hard to prevent), while the other is blatant (and can theoretically result in punishment if caught).

Gotcha. I can live with that. I just can't understand how anyone can say that absolutely N-O-T-H-I-N-G ever goes on.

[DaFace]

Originally Posted by TEX

Gotcha. I can live with that. I just can't understand how anyone can say that absolutely N-O-T-H-I-N-G ever goes on.

Yeah, I'm a firm believer that bias exists in the league for sure. I just think it's unlikely that the league is literally rigging games with the specific goal of making one team or the other win.

[Toby Waller]

Originally Posted by DaFace

Yeah, I'm a firm believer that bias exists in the league for sure. I just think it's unlikely that the league is literally rigging games with the specific goal of making one team or the other win.

And yet it's only the one team or other that keep winning.
So what, Denver is 3-5 in SBs ? It means they keep getting the playoffs.

[tooge]

Originally Posted by BlackOp

Wow...the Panthers got the shaft in this game.

There were 4 plays that the refs used to control the outcome...#1. Ruling the 1st quarter catch was incomplete...kept Carolina from gaining momentum early. The officiating commentary even said, live, it would be overturned...that is was a catch. #2. They picked up a defensive penalty with no explanation on a 3rd down play...which killed a drive deep in Broncos territory. #3. They ignored Talib's offsides..which would have forced a rekick. #4 Ignored an obvious PI call on another 3rd down play deep in Denver territory.

Denver was not flagged in the 2nd half.

Carolina seemed to be consistently pissed at the officiating...Denver never had to break a sweat.

I think the NFL really crossed the line with the "Manning retiring a champion" story...everyone who isnt a Bronco fan..is seeing straight through the bogus, manufactured horseshit. He was terrible all year... It also happened, on horrible officiating, that Bettis retired a champ...the lights went out on SF...Lewis retires a champion.

I'm not saying it is rigged. However, most of what you posted certainly seems to be true, well, actually, all of it. So, yes, the Broncos D was impressive, and the Broncos won the game with a great D and an anemic offense. Having said that, if there isn't some league intervention, then either the Broncos were the beneficiaries of some really good luck, or some terrible human error in officiating.

[GloryDayz]

Originally Posted by TEX

Gotcha. I can live with that. I just can't understand how anyone can say that absolutely N-O-T-H-I-N-G ever goes on.

In an entertainment league, it's pretty clear that key players probably know how to keep the money flowing well. At the end of the day these owners know what really matters to them.

[GloryDayz]

Originally Posted by BlackOp

Wow...the Panthers got the shaft in this game.

There were 4 plays that the refs used to control the outcome...#1. Ruling the 1st quarter catch was incomplete...kept Carolina from gaining momentum early. The officiating commentary even said, live, it would be overturned...that is was a catch. #2. They picked up a defensive penalty with no explanation on a 3rd down play...which killed a drive deep in Broncos territory. #3. They ignored Talib's offsides..which would have forced a rekick. #4 Ignored an obvious PI call on another 3rd down play deep in Denver territory.

Denver was not flagged in the 2nd half.

Carolina seemed to be consistently pissed at the officiating...Denver never had to break a sweat.

I think the NFL really crossed the line with the "Manning retiring a champion" story...everyone who isnt a Bronco fan..is seeing straight through the bogus, manufactured horseshit. He was terrible all year... It also happened, on horrible officiating, that Bettis retired a champ...the lights went out on SF...Lewis retires a champion.

What you're describing is more favoritism than being rigged. And yes, there is that. Officials are human, and not just in making honest mistakes, but it's impossible to know how much of their misses, and gifts, are true mistakes vs. being star-struck. And it doesn't really matter, they have the entire NFL front office supporting them when the error on the side of stardom.

So there's the key, the Chiefs need more stars. They have some stars, no doubt, but they're missing the ESPN headline-stealing QB still, and that's going to cost them. And I'm not 100% convinced it's all on Alex, it might be be on Andy too.

Either way, for now, we're both a small market team, with an owner that's a virtual nobody in the press, and we suffer some key gaps in QB star power, so we need to work on that.

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