Talking Draft Prospects - Page 17

Direckshun · 08:24 PM

We've got perhaps the biggest, most consequential draft coming up for this franchise since 2008. The Chiefs have all seven of their picks, and will certainly be picking up an additional four in compensatory picks, one of which is assuredly a 3rd rounder.

As a result, it's important to familiarize ourselves with as much of this draft class as possible. I started a thread last offseason that discussed late rounders that was generally well liked and spurred tons of great conversation on all sorts of draft picks we normally wouldn't talk about, so I'm going to duplicate that idea this year, only discussing all talents, rather than just the mid- and lower-round ones.

The OP will be continually updated to show the talent I'm reviewing by position. Keep in mind as I list these players that I am generally listing their round projections, but it is not a strict big board, as I likely won't have a big board put together until May.

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**DaneMcCloud** · 11-20-2014, 01:54 PM

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Originally Posted by RunKC

Would anyone really be surprised of We took an OT rd 1 next year? Harris is avg at best and Stephenson has done nothing more than be an extra blocker since he got busted.

That's not what I would do, but I can see our brass making that pick based on their philosophy.

I'd be very, very surprised. The Chiefs have proven two years in a row that it's possible to sign guys to Vet minimum contracts and have them perform well. Schwartz last season and Harris this season.

It would also be a surprise since Stephenson and Allen have both played right tackle and both are under contract. Plus, CB, ILB, S, WR & TE are all better value selections than a right tackle in the late first.

O.city · 11-20-2014, 01:58 PM

This year's safety crop is pretty meh.

I think a TE or WR will be there and match up for is. Maybe an ILB, but just as RB, it would have to be a Kuhl type player to take that early.

They're in a good spot that they can just sit where they are and take a good player that falls for whatever reason. Not shoehorned to any position.

I think he's probably a sociopath, but if Winston were to fall therr I might think about that just for the value.

O.city · 11-20-2014, 01:59 PM

Or a good defensive lineman prospect to replace DeVito

**DaneMcCloud** · 11-20-2014, 02:03 PM

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Originally Posted by O.city

Or a good defensive lineman prospect to replace DeVito

I think Jaye Howard is doing just fine

O.city · 11-20-2014, 02:14 PM

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Originally Posted by DaneMcCloud

I think Jaye Howard is doing just fine

Yeah, he's playing well.

But if there's a guy with a higher upside there like the dude from Florida state, would be a good pick.

O.city · 11-20-2014, 02:19 PM

They really need wr options on the outside. I wouldn't trade up for ine, but I hope one is there for us.

Saccopoo · 11-20-2014, 02:39 PM

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Originally Posted by RunKC

Would anyone really be surprised of We took an OT rd 1 next year? Harris is avg at best and Stephenson has done nothing more than be an extra blocker since he got busted.

That's not what I would do, but I can see our brass making that pick based on their philosophy.

Yes.

Jaw on the floor level shocked.

**DaneMcCloud** · 11-20-2014, 02:58 PM

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Originally Posted by O.city

Yeah, he's playing well.

But if there's a guy with a higher upside there like the dude from Florida state, would be a good pick.

While I fully expect Dorsey select a DE in the 2015 draft, I'd be shocked if it were in the first or second round.

Jaye Howard is 25 and Catapano is 24. Bailey is locked up and Walker can play end or NT. I don't see any reason to use an early pick on a platoon player.

Sandy Vagina · 11-20-2014, 03:56 PM

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Originally Posted by RunKC

Would anyone really be surprised of We took an OT rd 1 next year? Harris is avg at best and Stephenson has done nothing more than be an extra blocker since he got busted.

That's not what I would do, but I can see our brass making that pick based on their philosophy.

Wouldn't surprise. Allen and Stephenson would be on their final contract years... and Harris will be an UFA.

I probably would prefer a WR in rd one AGAIN, but I don't think it would upset me if KC instead drafted a top OT. There will likely be some decent WR options remaining in the following rds.

RunKC · 11-20-2014, 04:08 PM

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Originally Posted by DaneMcCloud

I'd be very, very surprised. The Chiefs have proven two years in a row that it's possible to sign guys to Vet minimum contracts and have them perform well. Schwartz last season and Harris this season.

It would also be a surprise since Stephenson and Allen have both played right tackle and both are under contract. Plus, CB, ILB, S, WR & TE are all better value selections than a right tackle in the late first.

I agree with everything but ILB. It's not a better value option. We've been fine with FA ILB's the last 2 seasons. Hell we lost DJ and it still didn't hurt us.

If it's me, I know defense wins. I'm taking a CB round 1. I don't see a safety or TE that would be worthy of a late first rd pick this year, and we can easily get a WR in rd 2 to add to weapons we already have.

Here's what we have at CB right now:

Sean Smith-FA after 2015. Top 5 highest paid player on team.
Phillip Gaines-great player who will be #2 CB next yr
Chris Owens-midget who isn't that great and should be gone in '15
Marcus Cooper-can't even get on the field. He's been awful this year.
Jamell Fleming-good depth but hasn't stayed healthy.

So basically we have 2 reliable players next year. We've been so bad there with injuries/depth that we've had Ron Parker play CB.
It's bad when Parker is playing CB bc he's not the same talent he is there as opposed to when he's playing in space at safety.

Hopefully Cooper gets better next year, but right now I'm not counting on him.

**DaneMcCloud** · 11-20-2014, 04:30 PM

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Originally Posted by RunKC

If it's me, I know defense wins. I'm taking a CB round 1. I don't see a safety or TE that would be worthy of a late first rd pick this year, and we can easily get a WR in rd 2 to add to weapons we already have.

It's way too early to make any kind of assessment because at least 100 juniors haven't declared yet.

O.city · 11-20-2014, 05:29 PM

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Originally Posted by DaneMcCloud

While I fully expect Dorsey select a DE in the 2015 draft, I'd be shocked if it were in the first or second round.

Jaye Howard is 25 and Catapano is 24. Bailey is locked up and Walker can play end or NT. I don't see any reason to use an early pick on a platoon player.

You'd hope he'd be more than a platoon player.

I defiantly wouldn't allow catapano to change any plans about who to draft though.

**DaneMcCloud** · 11-20-2014, 05:39 PM

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Originally Posted by O.city

You'd hope he'd be more than a platoon player.

Well, that's what I'm saying. Howard is playing well and is only 25. Why replace him with a 22 or 23 year old first rounder?

There will be plenty of guys available from the 3-7th that can be rotational players. It would be a wasted first round pick, IMO, and the Chiefs have far greater needs.

RunKC · 11-20-2014, 06:11 PM

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Originally Posted by DaneMcCloud

While I fully expect Dorsey select a DE in the 2015 draft, I'd be shocked if it were in the first or second round.

Jaye Howard is 25 and Catapano is 24. Bailey is locked up and Walker can play end or NT. I don't see any reason to use an early pick on a platoon player.

I agree with o city. We are currently 25th vs the run. It's clearly one of our glaring weaknesses.

**DaneMcCloud** · 11-20-2014, 06:13 PM

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Originally Posted by RunKC

I agree with o city. We are currently 25th vs the run. It's clearly one of our glaring weaknesses.

They're lower against the run because of their defensive alignment, not because of the defensive lineman.

If there's a liability in the run game, it's JMJ, not Jaye Howard.

09-24-2014, 02:22 AM
Direckshun __ Join Date: Oct 2006 Location: Springpatch Casino cash: $4173447	Talking Draft Prospects We've got perhaps the biggest, most consequential draft coming up for this franchise since 2008. The Chiefs have all seven of their picks, and will certainly be picking up an additional four in compensatory picks, one of which is assuredly a 3rd rounder. As a result, it's important to familiarize ourselves with as much of this draft class as possible. I started a thread last offseason that discussed late rounders that was generally well liked and spurred tons of great conversation on all sorts of draft picks we normally wouldn't talk about, so I'm going to duplicate that idea this year, only discussing all talents, rather than just the mid- and lower-round ones. The OP will be continually updated to show the talent I'm reviewing by position. Keep in mind as I list these players that I am generally listing their round projections, but it is not a strict big board, as I likely won't have a big board put together until May. Spoiler! QB Marcus Mariota, Oregon Jameis Winston, Florida State Brett Hundley, UCLA Connor Cook, Michigan State RB Todd Gurley, Georgia Melvin Gordon, Wisconsin Ameer Abdullah, Nebraska Mike Davis, South Carolina T.J. Yeldon, Alabama Tevin Coleman, Indiana Duke Johnson, Miami Jay Ajayi, Boise State FB WR Sammie Coates, Auburn Amari Cooper, Alabama Dorial Green-Beckham, Oklahoma Ty Montgomery, Stanford Kevin White, West Virginia DeVante Parker, Louisville Jaelen Strong, Arizona State Josh Harper, Fresno State Breshad Perriman, Central Florida Devin Smith, Ohio State Rashad Greene, Florida State TE Devin Funchess, Michigan Maxx Williams, Minnesota OT Cedric Ogbuehi, Texas A&M Brandon Schwerff, Iowa Andrus Peat, Stanford La'el Collins, LSU Spencer Drango, Baylor Ereck Flowers, Miami Cameron Erving, Florida State T.J. Clemmings, Pittsburgh Ronnie Stanley, Notre Dame Ty Sambrailo, Colorado State Jake Fisher, Oregon OG La'el Collins, LSU A.J. McCann, South Carolina Cameron Erving, Florida State Ty Sambrailo, Colorado State Josue Matias, Florida State Laken Tomlinson, Duke C Cameron Erving, Florida State Reese Dismukes, Auburn NT Danny Shelton, Washington Eddie Goldman, Florida State Malcom Brown, Texas Jordan Phillips, Oklahoma 4-3 DT and/or 3-4 DE Leonard Williams, USC Michael Bennett, Ohio State Mario Edwards, Jr., Florida State Malcom Brown, Texas Arik Armstead, Oregon Carl Davis, Iowa 4-3 DE Randy Gregory, Nebraska Shilique Calhoun, Michigan State Dante Fowler, Jr., Florida Shawn Oakman, Baylor Bronson Kaufusi, BYU Alvin Dupree, Kentucky Nate Orchard, Utah Owamagbe Odighizuwa, UCLA Danielle Hunter, LSU 3-4 OLB Randy Gregory, Nebraska Vic Beasley, Clemson Dante Fowler, Jr., Florida Shayne Ray, Missouri Bronson Kaufusi, BYU Lorenzo Maudlin, Louisville Alvin Dupree, Kentucky Nate Orchard, Utah Hau'oli Kikaha, Washington Eli Harold, Virginia Danielle Hunter, LSU 4-3 OLB/WILB Vic Beasley, Clemson Shaq Thompson, Washington Paul Dawson, TCU MLB/SILB Bernardrick McKinney, Mississippi State Denzel Perryman, Miami Eric Kendricks, UCLA CB Ifo Ekpre-Olomo, Oregon P.J. Williams, Florida State Marcus Peters, Washington Trae Waynes, Michigan State Jalen Collins, LSU Alex Carter, Stanford Quentin Rollins, Miami (OH) Kevin Johnson, Wake Forest SS Landon Collins, Alabama Anthony Harris, Virginia FS Gerod Holliman, Louisville K P Last edited by Direckshun; 03-04-2015 at 08:24 PM..
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O.city In Search of a Life Join Date: Jul 2009 Casino cash: $2434064	This year's safety crop is pretty meh. I think a TE or WR will be there and match up for is. Maybe an ILB, but just as RB, it would have to be a Kuhl type player to take that early. They're in a good spot that they can just sit where they are and take a good player that falls for whatever reason. Not shoehorned to any position. I think he's probably a sociopath, but if Winston were to fall therr I might think about that just for the value.
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