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Old 06-08-2014, 10:25 PM  
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USA Today predicts Chiefs at 4-12 for 2014

I could see it happening but really 6-8 wins seems pretty doable.

AFC West

Broncos 12-4 (2): Could be better than 2013 team even if wins and offensive output dip. But schedule is murderous.

Chargers 8-8: Last year's schedule allowed late-season charge. This year's could easily produce late-season slide.

Chiefs 4-12: Tight salary cap meant crippling free agent defections, and they didn't sufficiently reload in draft.

Raiders 3-13: Best thing influx of over-the-hill vets can do is change culture. Carr, Mack promise brighter days ahead.

http://www.usatoday.com/story/sports...colts/9767615/
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Old 06-11-2014, 01:44 AM   #242
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I think we win Six games. Six.
That's my best guess as well maybe 8-9 maybe 4 but 6-7 seems about right on.
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Old 06-11-2014, 02:27 AM   #243
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Mariota would be a great fit on the Chiefs and would be the pick if they went 4-12.

4-12 only happens if Alex Smith misses an extended amount of time and that would probably lead to no extension.
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Old 06-11-2014, 02:34 AM   #244
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If KC goes 4-12 and let Smith walk, they wouldn't draft a QB. They'll take the best defensive player available. WAG here, but I'd guess the likelihood would be a safety to replace Berry, another 3-4 OLB, or a pass-rushing capable ILB in that order.

They'd sign a FA like Jason Campbell, Dan Orlovsky or Hoyer (assuming he doesn't light the AFC North on fire) and let said placeholder QB soak up damage until Murray or Bray is ready.
if we go 4-12 with smith, we had better not be drafting a Defensive player in the following year, let alone not drafting a QB.. if we go 4-12 we would need play makers on the offensive side of the ball.
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Old 06-11-2014, 05:36 AM   #245
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Old 06-11-2014, 05:47 AM   #246
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It's not. This team doesn't have a lot of star power or depth. And our biggest stars are hamstrung by our limpdick QB.
I don't know what rainbow colored glasses you were watching games thru but our team won BECAUSE of A Smith in the second half if the season. I'm thinking you're the limpdick, or lazy eye??
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Old 06-11-2014, 05:49 AM   #247
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Count, I think D Bowe can be as good as he wants to be. Sadly, last year he was happy to be mediocre.
He got paid so he got fat and happy. He turned it on in the playoffs. Hopefully that continues
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Old 06-11-2014, 05:51 AM   #248
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The main issue going into this year is if the Cover 1 man bump and run defense can even work in this NFL(specifically this division). And if it can, if we have the players in the secondary to run it.

personally i'd like to copy the defense Seattle runs but it would mean we had to install the 4-3 under
Our defense was fine until Hali and Houston got hurt and we had no pass rush
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Old 06-11-2014, 06:54 AM   #249
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Coming from a guy who said Brodie Croyal was good...

So with all due respect, which is far more than you deserve, you have proven that you don't know dick about QB's. So please just
Dude shopped Cassel on a cereal box for his offseason play once His inner Lil Chiefy is begging to come out.
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The main issue going into this year is if the Cover 1 man bump and run defense can even work in this NFL(specifically this division). And if it can, if we have the players in the secondary to run it.

personally i'd like to copy the defense Seattle runs but it would mean we had to install the 4-3 under
Skipping over your comments on cover schemes...because..well...just because...

I think 90% of teams in the NFL would love to emulate the Seahawks. First you have to have the personnel to do it. The Chiefs don't...on several levels. They do however have the personnel to pull off a pretty good 3-4 defense.

My honest opinion is that they were lacking depth last year and it hurt them. Perhaps that is why most of the draft picks this year went to defense?
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Nah, Reid has been feeding them magic beans.

Travis Kelce's knee will heal!

AJ Jenkins is going to put it together!

Donnie Avery is going to learn how to catch consistently!

Weston Dressler is going to grow!

Anthony Fasano is going to stay healthy!
I understand the frustration, but at the end of the year, the offense didn't lose the games. Lack of depth on defense did.
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Skipping over your comments on cover schemes...because..well...just because...

I think 90% of teams in the NFL would love to emulate the Seahawks. First you have to have the personnel to do it. The Chiefs don't...on several levels. They do however have the personnel to pull off a pretty good 3-4 defense.

My honest opinion is that they were lacking depth last year and it hurt them. Perhaps that is why most of the draft picks this year went to defense?
I really don't think emulating the Seahawks scheme or personnel has as much to do as carrying the same swagger,confidence, and that thing they do where they fly to the ball and **** the guy up carrying it. The chiefs did that the first 9 games everyone was all over the field then they just quit. If the guy responsible didn't make the tackle it probably wasn't gonna get done.
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Never said that. Not. even. once.
Maybe not him but...

CASSEL IS KANSAS CITY’S GENERAL
C.E. Wendler

The transformation is complete. As the Chiefs head into the 2010 postseason, Matt Cassel is driving KC’s offense. No one, not even his biggest critic, can call him a liability anymore.

Let’s be quite honest – a lot of you didn’t believe this was possible. Nine weeks ago against the Buffalo Bills, Cassel was horrible. The Chiefs escaped with a 13-10 victory thanks to their defense and running game. Watching Cassel blow possession after possession that day, I was enraged, and completely justified in calling him The NFL’s Most Dangerous Quarterback. The Chiefs, in first place at the time, were literally in danger of blowing it because their quarterback couldn’t hold up his end of the bargain.

A week later, the Chiefs blew it, losing to the Raiders and eventually relinquishing their hold on first place in the AFC West. Cassel wasn’t terrible, but was hardly the player he needed to be considering the scope of the game. If he couldn’t elevate his game in a midseason battle for first place, how could he possibly do it with the playoffs on the line?

The Chiefs needed a general to lead them into battle. With their running game and defense playing at a comparatively high level, their quarterback, I quipped, was more akin to a little drummer boy, who handed the ball to the real soldiers.

A week later, the little drummer boy looked helpless while the real soldiers were massacred in Denver.

The situation seemed hopeless. The 5-4 Chiefs looked like a bunch of frauds. Labeled as playoff contenders, in reality they were pretenders being led by The Great Pretender. Cassel, it seemed, was the biggest fraud of them all - handpicked to be a franchise quarterback, awarded the salary of a franchise quarterback, constantly lauded by some as “the guy,” but nothing close to what a franchise quarterback should actually be.

It was time for an ultimatum. As dire as the situation appeared, should Cassel deliver the Chiefs to the playoffs, I posed that his mission for 2010 would be considered complete. Privately, I snickered at the very idea. The little drummer boy was going to hold off Philip Rivers? Ha!

Who’s laughing now?

Six weeks and five wins later, the Chiefs are in the playoffs. Cassel, who has taken a flamethrower to both NFL defenses and his biggest critic, is the reason. He has literally transformed himself. He is driving Kansas City’s offense, and the last two weeks are undeniable proof.

It might be easy to dismiss Cassel’s resurgence as a product of Kansas City’s running game. The Chiefs are still the #1 running team and have 362 yards rushing the last two weeks. But statistics can be deceiving. If you asked Charlie Weis, he’d probably tell you the truth – Kansas City’s running game has been terrible the last two weeks, and Cassel is picking up the slack.

Third and 19? Sling it, Cassel.

Against the Rams in Week 15, the Chiefs totaled 51 yards rushing in the first half. But 17 of those yards came via Cassel scrambles. The Chiefs “vaunted” rushing attack produced 34 yards on 13 carries. Thomas Jones and Jamaal Charles? They combined for one rushing first down before halftime.

Despite the running game producing like Larry Johnson was taking the handoffs, and despite two third-down drops from Kansas City’s receivers, the Chiefs led the Rams at halftime, 14-6. The reason: Matt Cassel, and this was a few days after his guts had been ripped out.

The idea that Cassel’s game against the Rams was an NFC-West aided fluke was debunked against the Tennessee Titans last weekend. Once again, the Chiefs’ early running game went in the dumpster, producing 40 yards (17 on one play) on 10 carries through KC’s first three possessions, for a grand total of two rushing first downs.

And the Chiefs led 17-0. Because Cassel was smoking red hot like he’s never been before, completing eight in a row to start the game and 13 of his first 16 passes for 146 yards and two touchdowns, good for a quarterback rating of 144.2, which is pretty close to perfect. And then Cassel decided he wanted to be perfect.

Facing third and 19, Cassel could have dumped the ball off and let KC’s offense punt. That’s exactly what he would have done six weeks ago when the Chiefs blew their lead in the division. Instead, he rifled a ball over the middle of the field to Dwayne Bowe, who caught it in stride for a 75-yard touchdown. It was a perfect pass. And then – ding! - Cassel’s quarterback rating hit 158.3, the perfect rating. The same rating Trent Green posted on an overcast December day when the Chiefs clinched their last division title in 2003.

The Chiefs were ahead 24-0, the most points they’ve scored in a half this year, and the Titans weren’t coming back. It was because of Cassel. Kansas City’s offense would put up 327 total yards before halftime, the third most in team history. The reason? Cassel.

The bottom line: The Chiefs are 5-0 with Matt Cassel since the massacre in Denver. In those five games, KC’s offense is averaging 27.4 points and Cassel is averaging 224 yards passing at a 62 percent clip with 11 touchdowns and one interception (106.5 rating). Stats may be for losers, but the Chiefs are winners. The statistics only reinforce the proof of Cassel’s transformation.

The Chiefs are division champions because of Matt Cassel. They win because of him, not in spite of him. You couldn't say that six weeks ago.

The little drummer boy is dead. It’s time to go to war again, and this time, Kansas City has a general firing 75-yard touchdowns.
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The transformation is complete. As the Chiefs head into the 2010 postseason, Matt Cassel is driving KC’s offense. No one, not even his biggest critic, can call him a liability anymore.

Let’s be quite honest – a lot of you didn’t believe this was possible. Nine weeks ago against the Buffalo Bills, Cassel was horrible. The Chiefs escaped with a 13-10 victory thanks to their defense and running game. Watching Cassel blow possession after possession that day, I was enraged, and completely justified in calling him The NFL’s Most Dangerous Quarterback. The Chiefs, in first place at the time, were literally in danger of blowing it because their quarterback couldn’t hold up his end of the bargain.

A week later, the Chiefs blew it, losing to the Raiders and eventually relinquishing their hold on first place in the AFC West. Cassel wasn’t terrible, but was hardly the player he needed to be considering the scope of the game. If he couldn’t elevate his game in a midseason battle for first place, how could he possibly do it with the playoffs on the line?

The Chiefs needed a general to lead them into battle. With their running game and defense playing at a comparatively high level, their quarterback, I quipped, was more akin to a little drummer boy, who handed the ball to the real soldiers.

A week later, the little drummer boy looked helpless while the real soldiers were massacred in Denver.

The situation seemed hopeless. The 5-4 Chiefs looked like a bunch of frauds. Labeled as playoff contenders, in reality they were pretenders being led by The Great Pretender. Cassel, it seemed, was the biggest fraud of them all - handpicked to be a franchise quarterback, awarded the salary of a franchise quarterback, constantly lauded by some as “the guy,” but nothing close to what a franchise quarterback should actually be.

It was time for an ultimatum. As dire as the situation appeared, should Cassel deliver the Chiefs to the playoffs, I posed that his mission for 2010 would be considered complete. Privately, I snickered at the very idea. The little drummer boy was going to hold off Philip Rivers? Ha!

Who’s laughing now?

Six weeks and five wins later, the Chiefs are in the playoffs. Cassel, who has taken a flamethrower to both NFL defenses and his biggest critic, is the reason. He has literally transformed himself. He is driving Kansas City’s offense, and the last two weeks are undeniable proof.

It might be easy to dismiss Cassel’s resurgence as a product of Kansas City’s running game. The Chiefs are still the #1 running team and have 362 yards rushing the last two weeks. But statistics can be deceiving. If you asked Charlie Weis, he’d probably tell you the truth – Kansas City’s running game has been terrible the last two weeks, and Cassel is picking up the slack.

Third and 19? Sling it, Cassel.

Against the Rams in Week 15, the Chiefs totaled 51 yards rushing in the first half. But 17 of those yards came via Cassel scrambles. The Chiefs “vaunted” rushing attack produced 34 yards on 13 carries. Thomas Jones and Jamaal Charles? They combined for one rushing first down before halftime.

Despite the running game producing like Larry Johnson was taking the handoffs, and despite two third-down drops from Kansas City’s receivers, the Chiefs led the Rams at halftime, 14-6. The reason: Matt Cassel, and this was a few days after his guts had been ripped out.

The idea that Cassel’s game against the Rams was an NFC-West aided fluke was debunked against the Tennessee Titans last weekend. Once again, the Chiefs’ early running game went in the dumpster, producing 40 yards (17 on one play) on 10 carries through KC’s first three possessions, for a grand total of two rushing first downs.

And the Chiefs led 17-0. Because Cassel was smoking red hot like he’s never been before, completing eight in a row to start the game and 13 of his first 16 passes for 146 yards and two touchdowns, good for a quarterback rating of 144.2, which is pretty close to perfect. And then Cassel decided he wanted to be perfect.

Facing third and 19, Cassel could have dumped the ball off and let KC’s offense punt. That’s exactly what he would have done six weeks ago when the Chiefs blew their lead in the division. Instead, he rifled a ball over the middle of the field to Dwayne Bowe, who caught it in stride for a 75-yard touchdown. It was a perfect pass. And then – ding! - Cassel’s quarterback rating hit 158.3, the perfect rating. The same rating Trent Green posted on an overcast December day when the Chiefs clinched their last division title in 2003.

The Chiefs were ahead 24-0, the most points they’ve scored in a half this year, and the Titans weren’t coming back. It was because of Cassel. Kansas City’s offense would put up 327 total yards before halftime, the third most in team history. The reason? Cassel.

The bottom line: The Chiefs are 5-0 with Matt Cassel since the massacre in Denver. In those five games, KC’s offense is averaging 27.4 points and Cassel is averaging 224 yards passing at a 62 percent clip with 11 touchdowns and one interception (106.5 rating). Stats may be for losers, but the Chiefs are winners. The statistics only reinforce the proof of Cassel’s transformation.

The Chiefs are division champions because of Matt Cassel. They win because of him, not in spite of him. You couldn't say that six weeks ago.

The little drummer boy is dead. It’s time to go to war again, and this time, Kansas City has a general firing 75-yard touchdowns.
Right!! They're the same unproven qb, with the same unproven head coach. I guess wins account for nothing here??
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