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Old 12-01-2013, 06:58 PM  
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Andy Reid's incompetence
FOUR DOWNS WITHIN THE RED ZONE, TWO MINUTES ON THE CLOCK, AND YOU PASS ON ALL FOUR? **** YOU ANDY REID. YOU SINGLE-HANDEDLY LOST US THIS GAME.
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Old 10-06-2014, 09:37 AM   #241
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He was in Philly for years.

Just like Herm was a horrible game manager for years and we hired his ass anyway...
The difference is Reid can actually coach. And is terrific with x's and o's.

I'm not saying that's much better. Again, I don't particularly endorse Andy Reid. Unlike herm, Reid can actually lead a deep playoff contender. I'm not crazy about him though because his game management is that bad that you have to expect the Chiefs to continue to win in spite of that. But at least we know we have a guy who can coach. I just don't understand why with that large staff you don't have someone advising Reid on clock management or situational play calling. At the very least, wish Pedersen would grow the balls to veto Reid.
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Old 10-06-2014, 09:37 AM   #242
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Gruden won't come here. He wants a job that will give him control and a young QB to work with.
Luckily the Chiefs have 2!!
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Old 10-06-2014, 09:40 AM   #243
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Luckily the Chiefs have 2!!
Sorry...I meant young and GOOD.
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Old 10-06-2014, 09:41 AM   #244
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That being said...Herm was an excellent talent evaluator and would make a fantastic player personnel director working in tandem with a 'money man' GM, Ala Ozzie Newsome.
I'd love to see Herm brought in in this role.
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Point taken, but JC in the third was a steal......

Though I'll always remember Herm for not trading Larry Johnson before the '07 draft, and then not drafting Marshawn Lynch (which was supposed to be the plan)

Of course, Peterson is the one who overruled Vermeil and drafted LJ instead of Polamalu in the 2003 draft.

**** Larry Johnson
JC is my guy. 08 was a great draft. Quality LT in the 1st, very good CB in the 2nd, Charles in the 3rd, and we stole Carr in the 5th.

Carr is one player Herm deserved full credit for. He made that pick all by himself. Carl said it was his birthday present... a 5th round pick that he could do whatever he wanted with.

That story itself kinda underpins the fact that Carl didn't let ANY coach just pick who they wanted.
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Sorry...I meant young and GOOD.
I don't know man. Gruden was garglin those Murray balls in his camp. Of course, he does that for about every player in the NFL.
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Gruden won't come here. He wants a job that will give him control and a young QB to work with.
Gruden wants a young QB? Did he say that?

That's weird, since he had an aversion to young QB's as a coach and always went after retreads like Jeff Garcia, Rich Gannon, and Brad Johnson.
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JC is my guy. 08 was a great draft. Quality LT in the 1st, very good CB in the 2nd, Charles in the 3rd, and we stole Carr in the 5th.

Carr is one player Herm deserved full credit for. He made that pick all by himself. Carl said it was his birthday present... a 5th round pick that he could do whatever he wanted with.

That story itself kinda underpins the fact that Carl didn't let ANY coach just pick who they wanted.
Sean Smith is a VERY poor man's Brandon Carr...

All those guys are gone, except for JC.
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Gruden wants a young QB? Did he say that?

That's weird, since he had an aversion to young QB's as a coach and always went after retreads like Jeff Garcia, Rich Gannon, and Brad Johnson.
He wants a can't miss prospect, like an Andrew Luck
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He wants a can't miss prospect, like an Andrew Luck
So does everyone in the NFL. Luck was a once-a-decade player though...
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weve lost two games so far on Andy Reid I would say. I think those are the moments where players like Alex and Jamal Charles who are supposed to be leaders should speak up. They seem like quiet humble guys,but Jamal should be on the sidelines throwing his helmet everytime its a 3rd and 1 and Andy decides to call a pass play. Or as a game manager how about Alex realizes Andy is being an idiot again and changes the play in the huddle.
Players like that don't last long around here.
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I think punting the ball at your own 36 yard line is a smart decision if you don't want to win the game.
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Editor's Note: The Chiefs may have won this contest if Andy Reid gave Jamaal Charles more touches and hadn't bungled game management late in regulation. But I suppose that's like saying the fattest man in the world wouldn't have suffered a heart attack if he wasn't so obese. Reid gets the most out of his players, but as Philadelphians very well know, he'll keep making the same mistakes over and over.
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I think punting the ball at your own 36 yard line is a smart decision if you don't want to win the game.
I think punting the ball at your own 36 is always a smart decision...
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So does everyone in the NFL. Luck was a once-a-decade player though...
Well, Gruden gets to sit back and wait until he decides that a situation is right for him.

Most everyone else jumps at the chance to be a HC, period...

Apples and oranges.
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