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Old 12-04-2012, 12:57 AM  
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Jovan Belcher was one sick son of B****

Exclusive: As troubles at home simmered, Chiefs tried to help Jovan Belcher
Police said the team was providing counseling to Jovan Belcher and his girlfriend, Kasandra Perkins. But Belcher, before taking his own life in the parking lot of the Chiefs’ practice facility, said it wasn’t enough to fix their problems.
By CHRISTINE VENDEL
The Kansas City Star




Seconds after fatally shooting his longtime girlfriend, Kansas City Chiefs linebacker Jovan Belcher leaned over her in their master bathroom, said he was sorry and kissed her on the forehead.

His mother, who heard gunfire as she stood in the kitchen, rushed to her son’s bedroom and watched his remorseful goodbye.

Belcher apologized to his mother, kissed his 3-month-old daughter and fled his rented home in the 5400 block of Crysler Avenue in his Bentley.


The Star learned those details and others from multiple police sources Monday as officers continued their investigation into why Belcher, 25, killed his live-in girlfriend, Kasandra Perkins, 22, on Saturday morning. Arguments over relationship and financial issues had simmered for months between them, according to the sources.

Belcher’s mother, who came from New York to live with her son so the couple could work through their issues, didn’t hear much of the argument. But just before 8 a.m., she heard her son say something to the effect of: “You can’t talk to me like that!”

Then she heard gunfire.

Afterward, Belcher drove to the only place he felt safe — to his other family at Arrowhead Stadium, police said.

As he covered the five miles from his home to the stadium, his violent act weighed on him, police believe.

“He probably realized he had done something and he couldn’t go back,” said Police Sgt. Richard Sharp.

In the parking lot of the practice facility at 1 Arrowhead Drive, Belcher encountered Chiefs General Manager Scott Pioli. Belcher stepped out of his Bentley with a gun pointed at his own head, police said.

“I did it,” he said, according to police. “I killed her.”

Club officials knew about the couple’s problems. The Chiefs had provided counseling and “were bending over backward” to help, Sharp said.

But Belcher told Pioli that the assistance wasn’t enough to fix their problems and now, “It was too late.”

When another Chiefs employee arrived, Pioli told him to stay back. Meanwhile Pioli tried to persuade Belcher to lay down the weapon, Sharp said.

Belcher thanked Pioli for everything he had done for him. He asked if he and Clark Hunt would take care of his daughter.

Chiefs Head Coach Romeo Crennel and linebackers coach Gary Gibbs arrived in the parking lot and Belcher reportedly announced, “Guys, I have to do this.”

Crennel tried to dissuade him.

“I was trying to get him to understand that life is not over,” Crennel told The Star. “He still has a chance and let’s get this worked out.’’

As Pioli and Crennel tried to reason with Belcher, the men heard police sirens closing in. Belcher then walked a few steps away with the gun still pointed at his head.

“I got to go,” Belcher reportedly said. “I can’t be here.”

Belcher knelt behind a vehicle and made the sign of the cross across his chest before firing a single bullet into his head.

Kansas City police believe Belcher killed himself because he was distraught over what he had done to Perkins.

“He cared about her,” Sharp said. “I don’t think he could live with himself.”

The night before the killings, Perkins had attended a concert downtown with friends, and Belcher had “partied” at the Power and Light District, police said. It was unclear when they arrived home, where Belcher’s mother was watching their baby. A woman who answered Belcher’s mother’s cell phone Monday declined to comment.

Detectives don’t know what specifically sparked the argument between the couple at home, but a friend of Perkins told The Star that the couple argued around 1 a.m. Saturday when Perkins returned home from the Trey Songz concert and drinks with friends afterward. Belcher was mad she had stayed out so late, the friend said.

Sometime later, Kansas City police talked with Belcher after finding him asleep in his Bentley on Armour Boulevard. Officers determined he was able to drive himself home. Police believe he arrived home about 7 a.m., well before a 9:30 team meeting. That’s when the yelling began.

Police said youth, immaturity and financial pressures served as a backdrop. During his college years, Belcher allegedly punched a dormitory window because he was upset over a woman.

Autopsies with toxicology tests were performed on both bodies, but results will take weeks, police said. Investigators believe alcohol may have played a role in the argument’s escalation.

Police recovered several legally owned guns from Belcher’s home. Investigators were testing each one, and the gun found with Belcher’s body, against shell casings and bullets they recovered.

Police spokesman Darin Snapp said Monday that Belcher’s mother, who had been staying with the couple, was given temporary custody of the couple’s daughter. But he said it was unclear if the grandmother and baby were still in the Kansas City area.

Perkins, who grew up in Texas, met Belcher, who grew up in New York, through a cousin, Whitney Golden Charles, the wife of Chiefs running back Jamaal Charles. Perkins moved to Kansas City in 2010 to be with Belcher. Her relatives learned of her death from the news, police said. A woman who answered the phone at a relative’s home Monday declined to comment.

Monday afternoon, the family issued a statement that spelled Perkins’ first name with a double s, though she spelled it with one on her Facebook page:

“On behalf of the Perkins Family, we appreciate the outpouring of love and concern for our Kassandra ‘Kasi’ Perkins. Our hearts are truly broken for Kasi was a beloved daughter, granddaughter, sister, mother, cousin and friend.…

“Please keep us in your hearts and prayers as well as the Belcher family for two lives were loss. Again we thank you for your support, our wish is for Kasi to be remembered for the love she shared with us all. Kasi will be truly missed!”

Jamaal Charles also released a statement: “Our family has suffered a personal tragic loss.… As this is a very tough time for our family, I ask that we are respected as we grieve. Kassandra was not only family, but a friend and a loving mother. As my actual family and my Kansas City Chiefs family have been altered forever, we ask that you keep us and most importantly their child in prayer. Thank you all for your continued support.”

Later Monday, Belcher’s somber relatives provided statements outside of Belcher’s boyhood home in New York. Yamiesse Lawrence, a cousin of Belcher’s, said the weekend’s events were an “inconceivable tragedy.”

“As a family, no words can express the sorrow we feel over the loss of Jovan and Kasandra,” Lawrence read aloud.

Read more here: http://www.kansascity.com/2012/12/04...#storylink=cpy

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Old 12-04-2012, 10:39 AM   #241
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Lamar Hunt had been suffering from cancer for almost a decade before he passed away. Carl Peterson was in charge of the Chiefs at that time and made an executive decision to draft LJ. Vermeil wanted Tyler Brayton and expressed that publicly.

I honestly believe that if Lamar Hunt was aware of Johnson's transgressions, he would not have been drafted. I also believe that if Clark Hunt, who at the time had little to noting to do with the Chiefs had known, Johnson wouldn't have been selected.
So you think that the Hunts didn't know about Larry Johnson (their star player and first round draft pick) and his very public run-ins with the law, but they knew enough about Jovan Belcher (an UDFA JAG from Maine) to think that a murder-suicide was in the cards?
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Old 12-04-2012, 10:40 AM   #242
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Till 1am or 7am. I don't think its normal to leave a 2.5 month old with the babysitter until those hours.
She was his mother, not a babysitter.

Aggrandizement of the situation. As I said, Grandma probably loved being with the child.
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Old 12-04-2012, 10:41 AM   #243
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you probably didnt have to work at 930 in the morning the next day when u went out though.
Actually, earlier. I normally run on 4 or 5 hours sleep a day. I have skipped a night every now and then and gone to work soon after getting home.
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So you think that the Hunts didn't know about Larry Johnson (their star player and first round draft pick) and his very public run-ins with the law, but they knew enough about Jovan Belcher (an UDFA JAG from Maine) to think that a murder-suicide was in the cards?
Dammit, I am agreeing with Saul.
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Old 12-04-2012, 10:43 AM   #245
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His mother (who just came into town) was with the baby, and probably having a ball doing it.
I have the feeling that his mom moved in with Kasi from NY specifically because neither one of then were capable of rearing a child.

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I went out without my kids after they were born. It is normal.
When you sent out, did you stay out until 7AM when you had to be at work that morning?? Did you get so shithouse drunk that you passed out in your car??

Not being self-righteous; just pointing out a pattern of irresponsible behavior that could have been completely avoided had either (or both!!) had the basic common human decency of staying home with their kid. Not to mention going to meetings and walk-through.

It just seems like no one has personal accountability anymore; call it self-righteous, whatever...but I have not killed my daughter's mother. And I won't. We didn't get along so much after she was born...and we got a ****ing divorce.

Like 'normal' people.

I didn't kill her. Call that 'self-righteous' if you want, I guess...
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Old 12-04-2012, 10:45 AM   #246
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That was kind of my point earlier this morning.

And it isn't just this board.

The fanbase is fractured. The tipping point HAS to be right around the corner.
I'm seriously about done with the NFL as a whole.

The whole thing is a joke now...and it's not very funny.
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Old 12-04-2012, 10:47 AM   #247
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My original statement was that "the Hunt family doesn't tolerate people like Belcher."

They don't.

Larry Johnson's ass was cut as soon as he showed he wasn't worth putting up with.
Yes they have\do.

The only reason LJ was released was because he sucked if he was still playing at a high level they would have kept him around. They kept Dale Carter around, heck half of the 98 Chiefs team was thugs.
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I have the feeling that his mom moved in with Kasi from NY specifically because neither one of then were capable of rearing a child.



When you sent out, did you stay out until 7AM when you had to be at work that morning?? Did you get so shithouse drunk that you passed out in your car??

Not being self-righteous; just pointing out a pattern of irresponsible behavior that could have been completely avoided had either (or both!!) had the basic common human decency of staying home with their kid. Not to mention going to meetings and walk-through.

It just seems like no one has personal accountability anymore; call it self-righteous, whatever...but I have not killed my daughter's mother. And I won't. We didn't get along so much after she was born...and we got a ****ing divorce.

Like 'normal' people.

I didn't kill her. Call that 'self-righteous' if you want, I guess...
You are being self righteous. Look at your first sentence. You are judge and jury about their family life and the supposed need of his mother to watch the child with no proof other than your gut feeling. That is the very definition of self righteous.

I have stayed out until 7 am and gone to work. I was not drunk though. Again you are assuming he was.
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Well, at least those two weren't.

It's absolutely true; Ol' Kasi shouldn't have been at some crappy Rhyme N' Bass lusty soft-porn sleaze fest, and Daddy Jovan shouldn't have been out getting drunk and chasing the muff around.

At 1AM, with a 3-month old baby...any decent human beings would have been home asleep with their kid. Especially when one of them has to be at the team facility in a few hours for a team meeting then a walkthrough.

Like, you'd think Belcher would've wanted to be home with his daughter and get rested up so he could put all his energy into trying to win an upcoming game...but in reality, fans probably care more about the games than the majority of players (like Belcher.)

Hate to sound callous, but **** Jovan and Kasi. Selfish fools, natural selection's a bitch. Stay home with your kid, get rested for work. 'Hanging in da club' is about the most ridiculous crock of horseshit anyway. Trey Songz is ****ing terrible; generic, sophmoric digitized BS that is literally about nothing more than intercourse (every. single. song.) If you have no culture, no couth...if you watch garbage, listen to garbage and do garbage thigs, your life will probably be garbage, too.

Stay home with your kids, go to bed early, act like a real family, ****. In America, it's 'cool' to NOT be close to your family, 'do your own thing, be your own person, etc.' There is no personal accountability. Jovan and Kasi were a couple of ****ing idiots, living a hollow, bullshit life - so selfish, that even WITH their ample financial resources, they weren't capable of taking care of a child. Probably why Belcher's mom was there in the first place.

****ing losers.


So if Trey Songz didn't suck in your opinion, it would have been OK? And why did it have to be a "Rhyme N' Bass lusty soft-porn sleaze fest"? If you don't like black music, that's your choice but the kind of concert she went to had nothing to do with Jovan staying out until 7AM and blasting her...
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Yes they have\do.

The only reason LJ was released was because he sucked if he was still playing at a high level they would have kept him around. They kept Dale Carter around, heck half of the 98 Chiefs team was thugs.
LJ was cut after the Twitter incident...and because he sucked.

Dale Carter was getting in trouble from the moment he got here.

Bam, Tamarick, Andre Rison, Chet McGlockton, Dan Williams, Snoop Minnis...

The Hunts have had some total shitheads come through here.
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She was his mother, not a babysitter.

Aggrandizement of the situation. As I said, Grandma probably loved being with the child.
You're right, she probably did. She also probably didn't appreciate the parents of the kid being out until 1 or 7. Then again she could be there to take care of the kid because the actual parents were to immature.
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LJ was cut after the Twitter incident...and because he sucked.

Dale Carter was getting in trouble from the moment he got here.

Bam, Tamarick, Andre Rison, Chet McGlockton, Dan Williams, Snoop Minnis...

The Hunts have had some total shitheads come through here.
Yep.
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My original statement was that "the Hunt family doesn't tolerate people like Belcher."

They don't.

Larry Johnson's ass was cut as soon as he showed he wasn't worth putting up with.
The Hunt family never would have brought in guys with character issues. That's why Andre Rison was brought in.
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