Chiefs Let's talk about the ****ing Bills. - Page 17

Direckshun · 11-02-2014, 08:19 PM

This one is huge, people. If you didn't already know, and aren't already reading along in the two threads we're discussing this, this one could be for an NFL tiebreaker. Plus, it is a game we need to win so that we don't have to beat the league's most talented teams later to compensate.

The Bills are 5-3. We are 5-3. This, for all intents and purposes, is a playoff game. And it's in ****ing Buffalo, a place where they're almost as starved for playoff success as we are. Even worse, they're coming off a bye.

What the hell happened in Buffalo? This team was a hopeless dope of a franchise for years. They were awful last year. Now, they're suddenly competent and possibly even good? Without a running game??? What??

I'll tell you what happened. Kyle ****ing Orton happened. All of a sudden, the Bills have a QB who doesn't Belcher their entire chance at success. Orton can, you know, actually pass the ball, can adequately read defenses, and doesn't make gargantuan ****ing mistakes like EJ Manuel and Jeff Tuel did. And prepare yourself for this week, because Claythan is going to be blowing Orton all week and it's going to be ridiculous.

Orton's having a very good year by his standards, but there's two major catches to his success:

The Bills do not have a run game, and therefore depend on Orton for their offensive success.
He is still Kyle Orton.

That means you can expect Orton's effectiveness to evaporate like a Chiefs fan's hopes and dreams when he's under pressure. You can also expect him to struggle squeezing the ball into tight windows, which is why Orton has historically been terrible in the red zone.

He's been better this year in the red zone, but still nobody's idea of a world beater. The primary reason he's been getting some success is because they have their own Percy Harvin, which we apparently struggle mightily with, named Sammie Watkins. This Watkins kid isn't the polished route-runner that Harvin is, but he's bigger and every bit as athletic. He can absolutely torch people, and the Chiefs need to have this asshole on lockdown.

After that, they have several nice, adequate weapons in supporting roles. I've always really liked Scott Chandler at TE, and angled a few years back for the Chiefs to pick him up in FA. Mike Williams is a big WR who had a super productive year in Tampa and can still have a big catch from time to time, Robert Woods is a smooth route runner, and Marquise Goodwin is a re-****ing-diculous speedster.

At RB, it's a mess. Fred Jackson has missed time, and will probably be out. CJ Spiller is dead. Their lead RB, and this is true, is a guy named Boobie Dixon. Also known as Anthony Dixon, he was a 245 lbs, fatass plodder that the 49ers could never find use for. He's meh. They also have Bryce Brown, who is alright.

I really like their OL, which is a reason Orton's been able to sling it fairly well. Cordy Glenn is a ridiculous monster athlete of a LT, but he's still learning and is very young. Seantrel Henderson is another extremely large, very athletic tackle at RT, just a great pair of gigantic athletes there. Erik Wood is a decent, capable center, nothing special, but I don't know much about how Cyril Richardson and Erik Pears are playing at guard. Maybe we've got some New Englanders here who can enlighten us.

So that's a capable offense. But the defense is why they are 5-3.

This defensive line is impossible. Mario Williams is not the game changer he once was, but he gets his off the edge. The middle of the DL is probably the best the NFL has to offer: Marcel Dareus and Kyle Williams are ****ing impossible. They disrupt anything and everything, and are ferocious against the pass (Dareus has SEVEN SACKS) and the run. Shit... is about to get real. Off the other edge they have Jerry Hughes, a former 1st round bust who is off pace to notch 11 sack this year. This DL is the worst.

I don't know anything about Nigel Bradham at OLB, who apparently leads their team in tackles. Keith Rivers is injured again, so they play rookie Preston Brown at the other OLB spot -- Brown is not terribly athletic, but is a sound tackler. They have Brandon Spikes at ILB, the epitome of slow and heady.

Expect a heavy dosage of Stephon Gilmore on Bowe. Gilmore is a physical, smart corner who is a true #1 CB. Leonis McKelvin is a former 1st round bust -- great athlete, but very average at the #2 CB position -- which is probably enough against our poverty receiving corps.

Aaron Williams has been reborn as a very good safety in Buffalo after playing poorly as a CB early in his career. I don't know a damn thing about Da'Norris Searcy but his stats indicate a jack of all trades, and a master of none.

This is one of those games you get up for, people. It's going to be a very intense week getting up for this game, and having to put up with Claynus' Orton-whoring this week won't make it much better.

Let's win this ****ing game.

Sandy Vagina · 11-04-2014, 07:51 AM

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Originally Posted by BlackOp

Smith should go back and watch Bowe in his banner year..he would realize that he doesn't have to be open..or even accurate with his throws to him...just close your eyes and chuck it like Cassel.

Nah.. Bowe got his big contract since those days. He will still work the short field and make some plays... even block.. but he isn't interested in contending for the stretch-out or jump ball passes deep downfield.

Just stay with the 10 yard hitches and slants. Stick the ball into his chest, so he doesn't have to be bothered with snagging the tough ones.

Hammock Parties · 11-04-2014, 11:20 AM

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Originally Posted by Sandy Cheeks

Nah.. Bowe got his big contract since those days. He will still work the short field and make some plays... even block.. but he isn't interested in contending for the stretch-out or jump ball passes deep downfield.

Total bullshit. It's football. He doesn't go out and say "ehhh only gonna catch short passes today."

Bowe will make those plays if Alex gives him a chance.

bshmerlie · 11-04-2014, 12:13 PM

Bowe makes the tough catches just not the easy ones. If I were Alex I would only throw to Bowe if he had defenders draped all over him. He has a flare for the dramatic catch.

RunKC · 11-04-2014, 12:17 PM

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Originally Posted by Count Zarth

Total bullshit. It's football. He doesn't go out and say "ehhh only gonna catch short passes today."

Bowe will make those plays if Alex gives him a chance.

Last 3 games Bowe has dropped 3 perfectly placed balls that hit not of his hand when he was open.

Dayze · 11-04-2014, 12:17 PM

The OP title had me thinking back to when my wife and I were first starting out living together. I made that statement about twice per week.

Hammock Parties · 11-04-2014, 12:18 PM

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Originally Posted by RunKC

Last 3 games Bowe has dropped 3 perfectly placed balls that hit not of his hand when he was open.

That's Bowe. Doesn't mean his attitude sucks.

O.city · 11-04-2014, 12:20 PM

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Originally Posted by RunKC

Last 3 games Bowe has dropped 3 perfectly placed balls that hit not of his hand when he was open.

He's also made big plays for first downs. He was tagreed 10 times Sunday which is a season high. Catching 6 for about 60 yards.

Keep throwing him the ball.

I realize you don't like the guy, but he's producing.

Sweet Daddy Hate · 11-04-2014, 08:08 PM

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Originally Posted by bshmerlie

Bowe makes the tough catches just not the easy ones. If I were Alex I would only throw to Bowe if he had defenders draped all over him. He has a flare for the dramatic catch.

Yep, it's a catch 22:

Alex won't throw in to traffic and Bowe likes to work for it.

I'm sure all the Bowe-haters will get their wish this off season, though.

Direckshun · 11-04-2014, 09:23 PM

Fred Jackson is "trying" to return to action this week.

He has yet to hit the practice field.

Hammock Parties · 11-04-2014, 09:25 PM

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Originally Posted by Direckshun

Fred Jackson is "trying" to return to action this week.

He has yet to hit the practice field.

MeatRock · 11-04-2014, 09:29 PM

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Originally Posted by Count Zarth

That pic has me rolling. ****ing Kyle Orton.

BlackOp · 11-04-2014, 09:48 PM

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Originally Posted by Sandy Cheeks

Nah.. Bowe got his big contract since those days. He will still work the short field and make some plays... even block.. but he isn't interested in contending for the stretch-out or jump ball passes deep downfield.

Just stay with the 10 yard hitches and slants. Stick the ball into his chest, so he doesn't have to be bothered with snagging the tough ones.

I was kidding...

Iconic · 11-04-2014, 09:52 PM

CP underestimating Orton when just three years ago they were crying for him to be their starting QB... oh how times have changed.

Mother****erJones · 11-04-2014, 10:39 PM

Jackson plans on practicing Wednesday.

CoMoChief · 11-04-2014, 10:40 PM

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Originally Posted by Iconic

CP underestimating Orton when just three years ago they were crying for him to be their starting QB... oh how times have changed.

I was all for starting Tyler Palko for the rest of the season because it was going to result in the Chiefs landing Andrew Luck.

11-02-2014, 08:19 PM
Direckshun __ Join Date: Oct 2006 Location: Springpatch Casino cash: $4083447	Let's talk about the ing Bills. This one is huge, people. If you didn't already know, and aren't already reading along in the two threads we're discussing this, this one could be for an NFL tiebreaker. Plus, it is a game we need to win so that we don't have to beat the league's most talented teams later to compensate. The Bills are 5-3. We are 5-3. This, for all intents and purposes, is a playoff game. And it's in ***ing Buffalo, a place where they're almost* as starved for playoff success as we are. Even worse, they're coming off a bye. What the hell happened in Buffalo? This team was a hopeless dope of a franchise for years. They were awful last year. Now, they're suddenly competent and possibly even good? Without a running game??? What?? I'll tell you what happened. Kyle **ing Orton happened. All of a sudden, the Bills have a QB who doesn't Belcher their entire chance at success. Orton can, you know, actually pass the ball, can adequately read defenses, and doesn't make gargantuan ing mistakes like EJ Manuel and Jeff Tuel did. And prepare yourself for this week, because Claythan is going to be blowing Orton all week and it's going to be ridiculous. Orton's having a very good year by his standards, but there's two major catches to his success: The Bills do not have a run game, and therefore depend on Orton for their offensive success. He is still Kyle Orton. That means you can expect Orton's effectiveness to evaporate like a Chiefs fan's hopes and dreams when he's under pressure. You can also expect him to struggle squeezing the ball into tight windows, which is why Orton has historically been terrible in the red zone. He's been better this year in the red zone, but still nobody's idea of a world beater. The primary reason he's been getting some success is because they have their own Percy Harvin, which we apparently struggle mightily with, named Sammie Watkins. This Watkins kid isn't the polished route-runner that Harvin is, but he's bigger and every bit as athletic. He can absolutely torch people, and the Chiefs need to have this asshole on lockdown. After that, they have several nice, adequate weapons in supporting roles. I've always really liked Scott Chandler at TE, and angled a few years back for the Chiefs to pick him up in FA. Mike Williams is a big WR who had a super productive year in Tampa and can still have a big catch from time to time, Robert Woods is a smooth route runner, and Marquise Goodwin is a re-ing-diculous speedster. At RB, it's a mess. Fred Jackson has missed time, and will probably be out. CJ Spiller is dead. Their lead RB, and this is true, is a guy named Boobie Dixon. Also known as Anthony Dixon, he was a 245 lbs, fatass plodder that the 49ers could never find use for. He's meh. They also have Bryce Brown, who is alright. I really like their OL, which is a reason Orton's been able to sling it fairly well. Cordy Glenn is a ridiculous monster athlete of a LT, but he's still learning and is very young. Seantrel Henderson is another extremely large, very athletic tackle at RT, just a great pair of gigantic athletes there. Erik Wood is a decent, capable center, nothing special, but I don't know much about how Cyril Richardson and Erik Pears are playing at guard. Maybe we've got some New Englanders here who can enlighten us. So that's a capable offense. But the defense is why they are 5-3. This defensive line is impossible. Mario Williams is not the game changer he once was, but he gets his off the edge. The middle of the DL is probably the best the NFL has to offer: Marcel Dareus and Kyle Williams are ing impossible. They disrupt anything and everything, and are ferocious against the pass (Dareus has SEVEN SACKS) and the run. Shit... is about to get real. Off the other edge they have Jerry Hughes, a former 1st round bust who is off pace to notch 11 sack this year. This DL is the worst. I don't know anything about Nigel Bradham at OLB, who apparently leads their team in tackles. Keith Rivers is injured again, so they play rookie Preston Brown at the other OLB spot -- Brown is not terribly athletic, but is a sound tackler. They have Brandon Spikes at ILB, the epitome of slow and heady. Expect a heavy dosage of Stephon Gilmore on Bowe. Gilmore is a physical, smart corner who is a true #1 CB. Leonis McKelvin is a former 1st round bust -- great athlete, but very average at the #2 CB position -- which is probably enough against our poverty receiving corps. Aaron Williams has been reborn as a very good safety in Buffalo after playing poorly as a CB early in his career. I don't know a damn thing about Da'Norris Searcy but his stats indicate a jack of all trades, and a master of none. This is one of those games you get up for, people. It's going to be a very intense week getting up for this game, and having to put up with Claynus' Orton-whoring this week won't make it much better. Let's win this **ing game.
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