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Old 09-15-2017, 12:52 PM  
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The NFL Is Seriously Concerned With Empty Stadiums
The NFL Is Seriously Concerned With Empty Stadiums

By: Ryan Phillips | September 13, 2017


Week 1 of the NFL season had plenty of important stories worth following, but maybe the most entertaining was the mostly empty stadiums in Los Angeles and Santa Clara. Both the Los Angeles Rams and San Francisco 49ers had sparse crowds for their home openers, and that has not gone unnoticed by the NFL.


Ian Rapoport ✔ @RapSheet
NFL spokesman Joe Lockhart on the attendance in LA & SF: “Any time we empty seats that something we want to address.” Focused on sellouts.
10:29 AM - Sep 13, 2017


Ian Rapoport’s report (try and say that fast five times) above shows that the league is clearly worried about the optics of half-filled stadiums. And they should be. It’s embarrassing for the league.

This is what the 49ers crowd looked like at the start of the second half in Week 1:



And here’s what the Rams crowd looked like in the first quarter:



Here’s the thing, the NFL’s plans for relocating teams have been hilariously ham-fisted. Moving the 49ers to Santa Clara, 45 minutes from San Francisco was a moronic decision. Levi’s Stadium is also positioned so roughly 70 percent of the stadium bakes in the sun with no chance of shade.

Meanwhile, the Rams might actually have decent attendance once they move into their new stadium, but that’s a huge gamble. Until then, they’ll likely be dealing with sparse crowds at the Coliseum for the next three seasons. It’s terrible optics for the NFL to have empty stadiums and absolutely no atmosphere for games.

And we haven’t even gotten to the Los Angeles Chargers, who haven’t even been able to sellout a 27,000-seat stadium. No one wanted the Chargers in Los Angeles, and it has shown so far. Dean Spanos and his family have consistently claimed they are pleased with ticket sales and “excited” about what’s happened with the franchise in LA, but look at the following picture for the team’s first ever official game in Los Angeles:



That was taken just before publishing this piece. Everything in color there is a ticket on sale for the team’s Week 2 matchup with the Miami Dolphins. Many of them are “re-sale” tickets that were likely snagged up by brokers when season tickets went on sale. Those brokers will likely aim to sell those seats to opposing fans all season. That graphic is stunning because it comes from just one ticket selling website, and there are several others that each have hundreds of tickets available.

The fact that the Chargers can’t find 27,000 fans to fill their tiny soccer stadium home for their opener in a new city would be shocking if you hadn’t followed this move from the beginning. But, let’s be real: there is zero buzz around the team, fan outreach efforts have been widely mocked and San Diego fans have abandoned the franchise en masse after the way the team’s ownership treated its former city. No matter how much lipstick the NFL tries to put on that situation, it’s always going to look like a pig.

Empty stadiums are a huge deal to the NFL. Yes, the league makes its money off of TV contracts, but when fans aren’t at games it has a detrimental impact on the product. It sends the message that games are boring, uninteresting and that people don’t want to have anything to do with them in person. That kind of message hurts the product as a whole.

Not to mention, players don’t want to play in empty stadiums, so those franchises will suffer when it comes time to lure free agents. That could lead to some teams being buried at the bottom of the league year after year and creating a cycle that leaves fans even less incentive to show up.

This is a major problem for the NFL. Maybe owners around the league will finally realize that their big, bold stadium and relocation plans should actually have more thought attached to them.


http://thebiglead.com/2017/09/13/the...mpty-stadiums/
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Old 09-18-2017, 12:41 PM   #226
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Yeah, I have no idea.

The tickets are sold out via the Chiefs, so it's Stub Hub or the like for tickets at this point, which are usually jacked up (at least out here).
Looking at the Chiefs website to buy tickets (not enabling the resale button) they are around that much. There is alot of tickets available for each game, I am actually surprised by that.
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Old 09-18-2017, 12:42 PM   #227
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Look, San Fran's crowds will return once they start winning again.

The real issue I see is with exspansion teams or teams that move.

The NFL badly wanted back into the LA market, but they messed up by wanting to locate two teams there. I think the Rams can be sucssful in time, but I don't see how it works with the Chargers. The Raiders are going to be interesting to watch too. Vegas will rock and roll when they are good, but watch out when things get bad.

The Chargers should have never left San Diago. That was just a horrible move.
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Looking at the Chiefs website to buy tickets (not enabling the resale button) they are around that much. There is alot of tickets available for each game, I am actually surprised by that.
Interesting, I thought it would be sold out as well.
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The NFL badly wanted back into the LA market, but they messed up by wanting to locate two teams there. I think the Rams can be sucssful in time, but I don't see how it works with the Chargers.
The Chargers don't have a realistic chance to be successful in Los Angeles. Either the Spanos family will need to sell, so that the team is relocated again, or something needs to be worked out with San Diego.

It's had epic disaster written all over it from Day One.

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The Raiders are going to be interesting to watch too. Vegas will rock and roll when they are good, but watch out when things get bad.
Cheap flights to Vegas, in addition to only a 3.5 hour drive from Los Angeles, almost insures that the Raiders will play to capacity to near capacity crowds.
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I mean the chiefs stadium yesterday was 80% full. Drop the ticket prices reeruns. Don't need a economic masters degree to realize you need to drop the price to increase the demand
Chiefs couldn't sell out their home opener yesterday after beating the Pats on the road?

That should tell their Front Office there is something wrong.
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The raiders in vegas will be full of opposing fans but it'll be packed

Hell were already planning it as a yearly trip
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Chiefs couldn't sell out their home opener yesterday after beating the Pats on the road?

That should tell their Front Office there is something wrong.
The game was sold out dipshit. You don't have to sell every single ticket for a "sell out" but your dumb ass wouldn't understand that.
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The raiders in vegas will be full of opposing fans but it'll be packed

Hell were already planning it as a yearly trip
Exactly. I'm not sure what they're thinking because it's very likely that the stadium will have 40% or more opposing fans.

I don't see how that's good for the Raiders.
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The raiders in vegas will be full of opposing fans but it'll be packed

Hell were already planning it as a yearly trip
I hadn't thought about that, Im going to have to plan something.
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