Brady takes jab at Peyton Manning in email

[tk13]

This is probably part of the reason he doesn't want his text messages out there.

http://www.boston.com/sports/footbal...cHO/story.html

Tom Brady jabs at Peyton Manning in private emails

By Henry McKenna @McKennAnalysis
Boston.com Staff | 08.05.15 | 1:02 PM

Tom Brady is supposedly competitive about everything. Apparently, he’s even competitive about the length of his career when compared to his NFL rival Peyton Manning.

The Patriots quarterback jabbed at Manning in his private email correspondence, revealed in the NFLPA lawsuit to appeal Brady’s four-game suspension for his role in Deflategate. Brady was emailing with a childhood friend Kevin Brady, who brought up a Grantland article comparing the two quarterbacks and outlining Manning’s decline. Brady wrote that his career will last at least five years longer than Manning’s. Manning is 39, Brady is 38.



Zinger.

And Brady’s not blind to the differences in the two quarterbacks’ careers. In another correspondence with blogger Jay Flannelly, Flannelly wrote to Brady about those major differences, saying Manning “needs everything to be perfect.” Brady didn’t seem to disagree, providing a typical Patriot-esque response.



Perhaps Brady buys into the Brady-Manning rivalry as much as we do.

[Pasta Little Brioni]

Claiming the gas law caused the Pats balls to drop that much is the dumbest thing I have ever read. I don't give a **** what lying, Pats homer "scientist" makes up about the subject.

[Hootie]

Per Hamas:

PV=nrT

The ideal gas constant is .08206
T is the temperature in Kelvin
V is the volume of the football
P is the pressure in pascals
n is the number of moles of gas.

Average PSI of the 11 footballs was 11.1. A PSI=6900 Pascals (basically)

Now, NFL footballs must be inflated to 12.5 PSI

12.5*6950=86250 Pa
11.1*6950=77145 Pa

Now, if you are assuming that there was no air removed, then the number of moles of gas will be identical for both, which means that we can ascertain the pressure of the football by using the temperature in Kelvins

86250=nrT

86250*1.0*10^-6*4237=n*.08206*293 (room temp)

77145*1.0*10^-6*4237=n*.08206*283 (game temp)

(Volume differences will be negligible here

Inside the locker room n= 15.1 moles of gas


So, if there are 15.1 moles of gas in a football that is 4237*10^-6 cubic meters at a gauge pressure of 12.5 psi and room temperature, then the pressure of the footballs outside, which was 283 K would be:

P*4237*10^-6=15.1*.08206*283

Pressure would be .967 of what it was inside.

.967*86250=83463 Pascals, which is 12.1 PSI.

Thus, the weather deflated them, at most, by 0.4 PSI. Where did the other pound go, Patriots fans?

[Hootie]

So here is what I know:

The Pats balls at halftime averaged out at 11.3 PSI. So, assuming they were inflated exactly to 12.5 and the ball boy, who lied about entering the bathroom, but then recanted and said he used one of the urinals (that did not exist in said bathroom), did not further deflate the footballs, on average, each Patriots ball inexplicably lost 0.8 lbs of air pressure. The Colts balls, according to what I read on the MMQB article by Peter King, had football that all lost around 0.35 PSI (right in line with the Ideal Gas Law, according to Hamas' math - you know, a certified MENSA genius).

And then, after the game, when the officials reinflated the Patriots footballs ... SUDDENLY, none of them inexplicably lost an extra pound of air pressure! SUPER WEIRD! Why did the environment only mess with the Patriots footballs passed what the ideal gas law would have allowed only in the first half, and not the second?!?!

I just don't get it!

[-King-]

Man. You guys really care a lot about this.
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[Amnorix]

Originally Posted by Hootie 2.0

Per Hamas:

Rather hilariously, the Wells Report itself disagrees with him. I don't know where his calculations went wrong, but apparently they did.

Regarding the post-game lack of deflation, it's literally meaningless. We don't know where the psi was set for the balls at halftime, and most importantly we don't know how long AFTER the game they were measured, and most significantly if the balls had had a chance to warm up after the game.

Because, as everyone admitted, nobody knew the ideal gas law even existed, nobody accounted for the impact of temperature on the game ball psi post-game.

As a result of exposure to the colder temperature on the field during the first half, the air pressure of all of the game balls tested at halftime decreased from the levels measured prior to the game. This result is consistent with basic scientific principles, including the Ideal Gas Law, which predicts the proportional change in pressure that is caused by a change in temperature of the gas inside a pressure vessel of fixed volume (such as a football). According to Exponent, based on the most likely pressure and temperature values for the Patriots game balls on the day of the AFC Championship Game (i.e., a starting pressure of 12.5 psi, a starting temperature of between 67 and 71 degrees and a final temperature of 48 degrees), the Ideal Gas Law predicts that the Patriots balls should have measured between 11.52 and 11.32 psi at the end of the first half, just before they were brought back into the Officials Locker Room. Most of the individual Patriots measurements recorded at halftime, however, were lower than the range predicted by the Ideal Gas Law.

Wells Report, page 114.

[Hootie]

Originally Posted by Amnorix

Are you denying that temperature has any effect on air pressure?

Do you know how long the balls were in a warm area before they were retested after the game? Was it immediate, or did they secure them and come back half an hour later? Nobody knows because the Wells Report doesn't mention it.

And no official would have thought of it, because apparnetly NOBODY in the entire NFL had ever heard of the ideal gas law, or had any idea of how temperature could affect air pressure, before this whole thing blew up.

Dude.

The guy lied to Wells about taking the footballs into the restroom. When shown video, he then said that he quickly used a urinal. One problem. This restroom had no urinals.

Look man, I don't really know if Brady instructed him to deflate these footballs. I really don't. And Brady's attorneys knew this, as well. It's impossible to prove. It's Brady's word vs. the ball boys word (if he were to flip on Brady).

But to try and put the deflation on "atmospheric conditions" after reading those text message exchanges, and the kid taking the footballs into that restroom (and lying about it), is hilariously homerish behavior.

[Amnorix]

And now, keeping that 11.32 - 11.52 expected range in mind, get this: if you BELIEVE THE HEAD REFEREE regarding which gauge was used pre-game, and use THAT SAME GAUGE FOR THE HALFTIME READINGS, you end up with an average psi of . . . 11.49.

[Hootie]

Originally Posted by Amnorix

And now, keeping that 11.32 - 11.52 expected range in mind, get this: if you BELIEVE THE HEAD REFEREE regarding which gauge was used pre-game, and use THAT SAME GAUGE FOR THE HALFTIME READINGS, you end up with an average psi of . . . 11.49.

what are you talking about?

I'm done with this one. I truly am. I don't even know how to filter it. The balls were all pumped up to 12.5 PSI, minimum. They all averaged 11.3 PSI at halftime. That is 0.8 PSI more than the Ideal Gas Law would have allowed. But whatever.

Explain to me why the Patriots ball boy took the footballs illegally from the officials locker room, disappeared into a restroom, lied about it, when shown video, explained he used a urinal (urinals were not in this restroom), and then the footballs were somehow 1.2 lbs below minimum threshold?

Are you really going to try and argue science here? The "deflator" (self anointed nickname) took these footballs into a bathroom WITH NO URINAL and lied about using a urinal ...

JFC man.

[MagicHef]

Originally Posted by Amnorix

Regarding the post-game lack of deflation, it's literally meaningless. We don't know where the psi was set for the balls at halftime, and most importantly we don't know how long AFTER the game they were measured, and most significantly if the balls had had a chance to warm up after the game.

"literally meaningless"

Just because we don't know the exact circumstances of how the balls were measured does not mean that that data is meaningless. It is vastly more useful than any of the "studies" you keep trying to introduce, because we know the conditions the balls experienced are identical to the conditions of the mysteriously deflating 1st half Patriot balls.

[MagicHef]

Amnorix- do you believe Brady when he says that it took him 18 years to notice that Lexol makes the balls slippery when they're wet?

[Amnorix]

Originally Posted by MagicHef

"literally meaningless"

Just because we don't know the exact circumstances of how the balls were measured does not mean that that data is meaningless. It is vastly more useful than any of the "studies" you keep trying to introduce, because we know the conditions the balls experienced are identical to the conditions of the mysteriously deflating 1st half Patriot balls.

Dude, if the balls were re-gauged half an hour after they were put into a warm room post-game, then the data really is meaningless. Of course it won't show deflation if the balls had time to heat back up.

[Amnorix]

Originally Posted by Hootie 2.0

what are you talking about?

I'm done with this one. I truly am. I don't even know how to filter it. The balls were all pumped up to 12.5 PSI, minimum. They all averaged 11.3 PSI at halftime. That is 0.8 PSI more than the Ideal Gas Law would have allowed. But whatever.

HAMAS said it should have gone down to no more than 12.1.

The WELLS REPORT, said it should have gone down to a range of 11.32 to 11.52.

So you believe Hamas over the Wells Report when it comes to the expected amount of deflation?

[MagicHef]

Originally Posted by Amnorix

Dude, if the balls were re-gauged half an hour after they were put into a warm room post-game, then the data really is meaningless. Of course it won't show deflation if the balls had time to heat back up.

Why would we think that they were re-gauged half an hour later?

It must be the same reason we would be expected to believe in some large mysterious time gap between the last Patriot ball and the first Colt ball measured at halftime.

[Amnorix]

Originally Posted by Amnorix

Rather hilariously, the Wells Report itself disagrees with him. I don't know where his calculations went wrong, but apparently they did.

Regarding the post-game lack of deflation, it's literally meaningless. We don't know where the psi was set for the balls at halftime, and most importantly we don't know how long AFTER the game they were measured, and most significantly if the balls had had a chance to warm up after the game.

Because, as everyone admitted, nobody knew the ideal gas law even existed, nobody accounted for the impact of temperature on the game ball psi post-game.



Wells Report, page 114.

Repost, as Hootie clearly missed it altogether.

[Amnorix]

Originally Posted by MagicHef

Why would we think that they were re-gauged half an hour later?

It must be the same reason we would be expected to believe in some large mysterious time gap between the last Patriot ball and the first Colt ball measured at halftime.

Why would we think 2 minutes? Why an hour? Nobody freaking knows, because the Wells Report doesn't say a word about when, so we have no freaking idea what the temperature was, even though it's critical.

While we're at it, why would the NFL leak bad information about the extent of the deflation, and then let that story stay in the news without correction even when they knew the information that THEY leaked was false.

The whole damn thing is mind-boggling in a million ways.