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Old 02-04-2017, 08:56 AM  
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Alex Smith or Jimmy Garoppolo?
If those are your only choices, would you rather stand pat with Smith or give up a high draft pick for Garoppolo?
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Old 02-06-2017, 08:11 AM   #226
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What the **** are you yapping about?

Any team that trades for G gets him on the cheap and THEN can decide if they want to extend him.

When you crawl into the asshole of Claynus, is it warm or cold?
Trading first and third rounders for a one year "see if you like him" rental is completely unrealistic and we all know it.

If you trade that much for a QB, "he's your guy" and a long term extension is inevitable.

I'd much rather just stick with Smith another year and draft a QB this year or next than go that route and it's not even close.

Now, if Kirk Cousins hits the open market, I'd be fine with moving Smith and Foles to get him and I'd be more than willing to make a move for Tony Romo, as well.

At least those guys have shown the top end ability the position requires
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Old 02-06-2017, 09:27 AM   #227
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Trading first and third rounders for a one year "see if you like him" rental is completely unrealistic and we all know it.

If you trade that much for a QB, "he's your guy" and a long term extension is inevitable.

I'd much rather just stick with Smith another year and draft a QB this year or next than go that route and it's not even close.

Now, if Kirk Cousins hits the open market, I'd be fine with moving Smith and Foles to get him and I'd be more than willing to make a move for Tony Romo, as well.

At least those guys have shown the top end ability the position requires
I disagree.

In 2016, the Chiefs gave up their first round pick. No 1st round pick. None.

They then turned that pick into Chris Jones and KeiVarie Russell.

Where's Russell? Oh yeah, cut.

No 1st, no 3rd. Chiefs still win the division and 12 games.

If they identified JG as their guy and gave up a 1 and a 3, they wouldn't need to extend him unless he played lights out. They could Franchise him for 2018 and give him another opportunity.

And if he didn't play lights out? No big deal. First and third round players wash out every single year.
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Old 02-06-2017, 11:47 AM   #228
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Janeane Garofalo couldn't even stay healthy during her 4 game stint as starter.

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Old 02-06-2017, 01:02 PM   #229
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Why not just spend that high draft pick(s) on a QB in the draft? Besides preseason and garbage time, you really only have 2 games to evaluate him on.
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Old 02-06-2017, 05:27 PM   #230
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Why not just spend that high draft pick(s) on a QB in the draft? Besides preseason and garbage time, you really only have 2 games to evaluate him on.
This. What miles of tape and sample do we have on Giraffolo anyway?

The guy was drafted as a 2nd round pick, and we should give up a 1st + just because he spent some time polishing Brady's cleats?

**** that noise. If there's a QB in this draft that the FO likes, do what it takes to acquire him.
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Old 02-06-2017, 05:49 PM   #231
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GOD DAMN.... THIS AGAIN?!?!?!?

Draft a franchise QB, and **** these reeruned threads about having some other team's backup taking the Chiefs to the promise land. Bono, Grbac, Green, Cassel, Smith.

Other than Trent Green (who really to be honest benefited from one of the best OL's in the history of the NFL, and the best pass catching TE to ever play the game, and the best complete RB during that time), the other QB's were absolute shit.

Draft a franchise QB. I dont even care if they whiff and miss on one. You're not going to know unless you do it.
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Old 02-23-2017, 01:14 PM   #232
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I'm actually warming up to the Garoppolo option. Not 100% sold yet, but warming.

I watched the highlights of most/all of his throws against the Cards and Dolphins the first two games of the season. He seemed poised in the pocket, and wasn't rattled by pressure. He kept his eyes downfield, and for the most part looked like he made good decisions with the ball. He threw the ball downfield on multiple occasions. Did't always connect, but throws what looks to be a very catchable ball.

A lot depends on what the compensation would be, but I could probably live with our 1st for Garoppolo as opposed to having Smith back under center next season.
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Old 02-23-2017, 01:26 PM   #233
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If these are my only two options I pick Smith.
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Old 02-23-2017, 01:29 PM   #234
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Smith.

Any further retreads just set the franchise back 3-4 more years.

Unless by some miracle JG turned out to be the second coming of Steve Young, I'll just tune out for a few years.
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Old 02-23-2017, 01:30 PM   #235
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Why not just spend that high draft pick(s) on a QB in the draft? Besides preseason and garbage time, you really only have 2 games to evaluate him on.
I'm sure the true fan side of the thinking would be that you spend the pick on Garoppolo if you think he's better than anybody you can get at that draft position.
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Old 02-23-2017, 01:35 PM   #236
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Jimmy Garppolo will likely be the next Matt Cassel, Matt Flynn, Scott Mitchell, Brock Assmuncher, etc.
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Old 02-23-2017, 01:41 PM   #237
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Jimmy Garppolo will likely be the next Matt Cassel, Matt Flynn, Scott Mitchell, Brock Assmuncher, etc.
Probably will. All QBs that left that system have gone on to suck. Hoyer, Matt and Mallet. They get guys for their system, they play like shit in another system. It not a coincidence that Matt failed bad without Charlie. Jimmy has basicly no playing time and if you trade for him you don't get the rookie contract. I would draft a QB instead.
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Again, I am not totally sold. Just warming to the idea after watching all of his throws. He looked good in the pocket. Smith does not.
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Probably will. All QBs that left that system have gone on to suck. Hoyer, Matt and Mallet. They get guys for their system, they play like shit in another system. It not a coincidence that Matt failed bad without Charlie. Jimmy has basicly no playing time and if you trade for him you don't get the rookie contract. I would draft a QB instead.
Brees, Favre, Young, Plunkett, Gannon. There are exceptions to the rule.
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Brees, Favre, Young, Plunkett, Gannon. There are exceptions to the rule.
They were not drafted for the NE system. No QB has left that system and been any good.
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