Would you trade Alex Smith for Colin Kaepernick straight up?

[Alex Smith 4Ever]

I would not. Alex is a better quarterback right now and does not have the off field incidents of Kaepernick

[Pasta Little Brioni]

Is Kaperdick hootie? There could only be one person on the planet dumb enough to argue that this clown is the best in the league.

[htismaqe]

Originally Posted by Cochise

That game was a microchasm of why QBs like him don't usually succeed in the NFL. In the postseason and against great teams, you have to be able to pass from the pocket and win games.

A lot of people can pile up stats, but there aren't many who can answer the bell in that situation. CK obviously is not one of them.

Just playing Devil's advocate here but you could replace CK with AS in your statement and it would essentially still be true...

[Sandy Vagina]

Originally Posted by htismaqe

Just playing Devil's advocate here but you could replace CK with AS in your statement and it would essentially still be true...

how do you figure that? Smith stepped up very well in most clutch situations. Are we blaming him because Bowe didn't bother to get his 2nd foot in? or blaming him against the NYG when both defenses were shutting Eli and Alex down? Smith was running a 1st year new offense after the lockout that year... had receivers named Brett Swain, Kyle Williams, and even Crabtree was dropping passes and saying he needs to play better.

Kaepernick just chokes the crucial games away so far. If not for his physical talent and splash plays from that talent... if not for his good fortune of being on a stacked team... he likely wouldn't be so forgiven for his inability to read defenses and go through progressions.

[BeeHo]

PFF

Sig Stat: Accuracy % Breakdown
Gordon McGuinness | February 12, 2014



Our Accuracy Percentage stat goes beyond your standard quarterback completion percentage, taking into account dropped passes, throw aways, spiked balls, batted passes and passes where the quarterback was hit while attempting to throw.

Acc%: Deep Passing

The Top 10

"Deep Accuracy gives a good indication of which quarterbacks were most accurate challenging defenses downfield and, with a big start in limited action in Houston, Case Keenum tops the list with a Deep Acc% of 53.1%. Rodgers is once again amongst the best here, as the only quarterback other than Keenum to finish above 50%. Super Bowl QBs Russell Wilson and Peyton Manning round out the Top 5 along with the surprise inclusion of Kellen Clemens."

Name Team Deep Acc. %
Case Keenum HST 53.1%
Aaron Rodgers GB 52.8%
Russell Wilson SEA 48.3%
Peyton Manning DEN 48.2%
Kellen Clemens STL 48.0%
Matt Cassel MIN 47.4%
Geno Smith NYJ 46.7%
Alex D. Smith KC 46.3%
Matthew McGloin OAK 45.7%
Mike Glennon TB 45.0%

[i don't know where Kap stands on this stat ; it did not show total attempts, again if i had a PFF subscription i could show]


Acc%: Under Pressure

Top 10

It’s the tale of two injury replacement in the NFC North at the top here, with free agents-to-be McCown and Flynn at the top of the table. They’re joined in the first five by Philip Rivers and Peyton Manning, which hardly comes as a surprise. The Top 5 ends with a Ryan Fitzpatrick sighting and all five were accurate on at least 68.5% of their throws while under pressure.

The Bottom 10

The theme for the Bottom 10 here seems to be inexperience, with most of the players here still fairly young in their careers. Nobody struggled under pressure as much as Buffalo’s backup Thaddeus Lewis, who completed just 40% of his throws when pressure got to him. He’s joined at the bottom by McGloin and Brandon Weeden with both showing why so many doubt their viability as a long-term starters in the league. St. Louis’ Sam Bradford had the fourth-worst mark as we head into yet another offseason where he’s coming off an injury.

Name Team Under Pressure Acc. %
Andy Dalton CIN 56.7%
Jake Locker TEN 56.6%
Andrew Luck IND 56.0%
Geno Smith NYJ 55.5%
Colin Kaepernick SF 55.1%
Matt Schaub HST 55.1%
Sam Bradford STL 53.4%
Brandon Weeden CLV 50.8%
Matthew McGloin OAK 50.0%
Thaddeus Lewis BUF 40.0%


Andrew Luck and Andy Dalton also feature in the Bottom 10, with their up-and-down play leading to six pressured picks apiece. Geno Smith can be spotted once again, with pressure causing him plenty of problems in his rookie year, while veteran Matt Schaub’s inclusion won’t come as a surprise to anyone who saw him during what was as rough a year as he’s had in the league.

[htismaqe]

Originally Posted by Sandy Cheeks

how do you figure that? Smith stepped up very well in most clutch situations. Are we blaming him because Bowe didn't bother to get his 2nd foot in? or blaming him against the NYG when both defenses were shutting Eli and Alex down? Smith was running a 1st year new offense after the lockout that year... had receivers named Brett Swain, Kyle Williams, and even Crabtree was dropping passes and saying he needs to play better.

Kaepernick just chokes the crucial games away so far. If not for his physical talent and splash plays from that talent... if not for his good fortune of being on a stacked team... he likely wouldn't be so forgiven for his inability to read defenses and go through progressions.

Alex doesn't make clutch plays from the pocket. He makes clutch plays from outside the pocket. Read what he posted again.

The excuses for Alex Smith are hilarious, though.

No chance of even being realistic about his ability. It's always somebody else's fault.

[Sandy Vagina]

Originally Posted by htismaqe

Alex doesn't make clutch plays from the pocket. He makes clutch plays from outside the pocket. Read what he posted again.

The excuses for Alex Smith are hilarious, though.

No chance of even being realistic about his ability. It's always somebody else's fault.

Sadly for him, this has been the case so far.

Excuses.. always an interesting word. Seems to me that when people like a QB and defend him, there are legit reasons for why he struggles. And when you don't like a QB, those same legit reasons magically transform into excuses.

So Bowe can't keep his foot in bounds... and somehow that's an excuse for the QB failing to come through in the clutch. Gotcha.

I sure have heard more excuses allowed for other QBs around the league than for their own here. It's as if most here are so terrified to be labeled a blind homer that they push in the extreme opposite direction. Ooookay. Right, wrong, brilliant or ridiculous.. it's all entertaining.

[htismaqe]

Originally Posted by Sandy Cheeks

Sadly for him, this has been the case so far.

Excuses.. always an interesting word. Seems to me that when people like a QB and defend him, there are legit reasons for why he struggles. And when you don't like a QB, those same legit reasons magically transform into excuses.

Except for the fact that I like Alex Smith. In fact, I believe I've said I LOVE Alex Smith as the Chiefs QB. The difference is that I can be honest about him and his shortcomings.

Originally Posted by Sandy Cheeks

So Bowe can't keep his foot in bounds... and somehow that's an excuse for the QB failing to come through in the clutch. Gotcha.

I didn't say anything about Bowe and to act like that single play was the deciding factor in the game, given what we ALL SAW in the 3rd quarter, is disingenuous.

However, we all know how you feel about Bowe so certainly any time you can blame him for something, you're going to.

As for that particular play, I know what happened and I've said as much on the record. I've never blamed Alex Smith for it so once again, you're completely off-base.

Originally Posted by Sandy Cheeks

I sure have heard more excuses allowed for other QBs around the league than for their own here. It's as if most here are so terrified to be labeled a blind homer that they push in the extreme opposite direction. Ooookay. Right, wrong, brilliant or ridiculous.. it's all entertaining.

Except I've not made any excuses for any other QBs either. I don't make excuses

[Eleazar]

Originally Posted by htismaqe

Just playing Devil's advocate here but you could replace CK with AS in your statement and it would essentially still be true...

Eh, I don't think it's really a close comparison. Smith played at such a high level in that game that he put his team in a position to win, wire to wire. But he can't win games on his own, obviously no QB can. And if you want to talk about the last drive, if Bowe catches a ball he should catch, then we win. That was the moment comparable to CK I guess, but Smith did his job. He can't throw the ball and catch it too

Kaepernick had his chance to prove he is good enough as a QB to go win a game himself to send his team to the super bowl, and he got three chances in a row to do it and - whether it is a good representation of who he is or not - he turned the ball over 3 times in a row.

They were two games that asked different things of the QBs involved.

[Pasta Little Brioni]

Would not trade a bag of peanuts to have that douche lead a team.

[htismaqe]

Originally Posted by Cochise

Eh, I don't think it's really a close comparison. Smith played at such a high level in that game that he put his team in a position to win, wire to wire. But he can't win games on his own, obviously no QB can. And if you want to talk about the last drive, if Bowe catches a ball he should catch, then we win. That was the moment comparable to CK I guess, but Smith did his job. He can't throw the ball and catch it too

Kaepernick had his chance to prove he is good enough as a QB to go win a game himself to send his team to the super bowl, and he got three chances in a row to do it and - whether it is a good representation of who he is or not - he turned the ball over 3 times in a row.

They were two games that asked different things of the QBs involved.

Why is everybody so focused on ONE play in ONE game? It's almost as if they know if we open up this discussion and look at ALL of the evidence, they'll see something they don't want to see...

[Sandy Vagina]

The better question is... why are you hiding from that one play in that one game? You suggested that Smith and Kaep are comparable in that they both fail when it matters in the pocket.. or is that not the case now? Time to backtrack?

Was Alex not in the pocket when he hit VD for the winning TD pass vs the Saints in the playoffs?

I think you just played devil's advocate there to get some attention, frankly. Well... good for you... you got it.

[htismaqe]

Originally Posted by Sandy Cheeks

The better question is... why are you hiding from that one play in that one game? You suggested that Smith and Kaep are comparable in that they both fail when it matters in the pocket.. or is that not the case now? Time to backtrack?

Did Alex Smith not play in 17 games last year?

Originally Posted by Sandy Cheeks

Was Alex not in the pocket when he hit VD for the winning TD pass vs the Saints in the playoffs?

You can cherry pick games, great.

Originally Posted by Sandy Cheeks

I think you just played devil's advocate there to get some attention, frankly. Well... good for you... you got it.

Well, you'd be wrong. Which you've gotten pretty good at being.

[htismaqe]

I think somebody needs to read what Cochise posted again.

It doesn't say anything about "choking" or "failing". In fact, I don't see any absolutes in his post at all.

[Sandy Vagina]

Your vague response was not vague enough... and it was clear for sure when you followed it up with

Alex doesn't make clutch plays from the pocket.

What an ignorant thing to say... so either you are a really clueless on your QB or you are looking for attention by blurting out inane comments.

[Pasta Little Brioni]

It's past time for the Niner dudes to go away...it is creepy