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View Poll Results: Can you chose to hope Reid/Dorsey have a sound plan? | |||
They seems to have a good plan | 96 | 29.09% | |
Benefit of doubt until proven otherwise | 158 | 47.88% | |
Those guys have proven to be failures | 2 | 0.61% | |
Their moves so far cause me great concern that they are inept | 46 | 13.94% | |
Screw this team | 24 | 7.27% | |
Gaz says WTF am I? | 4 | 1.21% | |
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03-14-2013, 07:44 PM | #226 |
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Im sure he's a better game manager than Cassel. That said, stepping in a dog turd stuffed with peanut M&M's doesn't make it less smelly or a more enjoyable experience.
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03-14-2013, 07:45 PM | #227 |
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I don't think it's even worth having a debate about him vs. Cassel. It's not about upgrading Matt, it's about finding a guy that can get through big games. I understand Dane's point about walking before running, and I'm certainly not SB in 2 years or bust, but I don't think Alex Smith is very likely to take us anywhere special.
So in my mind, I would rather take a chance on a young guy, in this case, Geno. I get that he is a massive risk too, but to me potential upside beats out the upside I see in Alex. I just don't like the idea of having to build a super-team to take our QB to the SB. That's kind of what I think would need to happen. I think both options are big risks. It's risky trying to swim upstream and win with a game manager. It's also risky taking a chance on a rookie. I just see more potential with the latter risk. There is a chance of major fail with the latter risk as well, but stealing from Dane, it would be business as usual. Some are comfortable with Alex and potentially it being a fail and business as usual. I would rather it be Geno/rookie QB and potentially business as usual. |
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03-14-2013, 07:46 PM | #230 |
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I was excited and ready to give Reid and Dorsey the benefit of the doubt. However, the Alex Cassel trade was so epicly bad (because of the insane value paid + the belief that he is the long-term solution rather than a stop-gap) that they lost me.
It is like saying that, other than Cassel, Peeoli did a good job. I had no problem with the Cassel trade; it was the blindness as to his mediocre (at best) talents. That epic fail has doomed Pioli's legacy in KC alone. The Alex Smith trade has likewise doomed Reid/Dorsey. That doesn't mean that I'll stop rooting for the team. It doesn't mean that I won't wish that Alex Smith gets a lobotomy/epiphany and discovers how to be a good QB. It just means that Reid/Dorsey are now in the same boat as Pioli with me (as far as QB evaluation competence). They are a little better because they are more active in the FA market and they don't have the massive ego or fascination with candy wrappers. So, I will hope for the best and expect the worst. |
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03-14-2013, 07:46 PM | #231 |
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I can't handle the constant neg.
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dear god. and cassel has had moss, welker and bowe.
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And Smith had Crabtree and Davis.
BTW, 4 of those games by Matt Cassel came when he was in KC.
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03-14-2013, 07:54 PM | #240 |
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The depressing idea everyone refuses to discuss is what if there aren't any answers this year. What if this is it, and all these guys never quite make it. People are quite selective with their arguments. There's a huge difference between now and 2009, in that everyone thought Stafford and Sanchez were top 10 talents. Pioli didn't care. This year the prevailing opinion among football people that none of these QBs available in any form are truly elite.
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