Forced Vaccinations are on the way.

[BIG_DADDY]

After failing miserably across the country even with all the endless campaign contributions, Big Pharm have their eye’s set on the People’s Republic of California where it is business as usual even as 3 senators are being charged with criminal misconduct. As California goes so does the rest of the country, right? http://www.nytimes.com/2014/04/04/us...dals.html?_r=0

California has two proposals right now SB277 mandatory vaccination for all kids in school. SB792 mandatory vaccines for all day care facilities and providers. I have been to every hearing on SB277 open to the public and one on 4/29 on SB792. Some of the teeth of bill SB277 are currently being pulled due to legal concerns. Personal exemptions will be honored until that student goes to another school. Over 2k people overtook the capitol 4th floor protesting. This received a mainstream media blackout. On that note I would like to clear up some deceptions and outright lies. The media is dividing society by labeling pro-vaxxers and non-vaxxers or anti-vaxxers. You probably think the latter do not do vaccines, right? Wrong, opt out of a single dose of our ridiculous schedule and that is what you are labeled which would be almost everyone in this forum unless you one of the unfortunate kids who are on the lab rat 69 doses in 17 vaccine schedule by 18yrs.
Next I got called to the mat by Dane who insists the affluent in high end private schools are all vaccinated. PBE’s are a personal belief exemption. Plug in any high end school right here and see for yourself. I would suggest starting with the Waldorf School. http://ww2.kqed.org/stateofhealth/20...l-online/#find

So let me get this straight, people who can afford the very best doctors have the highest PBE’s? Don’t doctors, scientists and health care workers who all see the damage that is caused by vaccines have some of the highest PBE rates? Absolutely

http://vaccinefactcheck.org/2015/03/...-vaccinations/
https://jonrappoport.wordpress.com/2...fused-vaccine/
http://www.namv.org/

Do your own due diligence in this area, you will be shocked. Everything I have told you about the Sens Foundation, the Buck Institute and friends in the industry is absolutely true. It is hard to come out and be really vocal publicly when you are up against a 711 Billion Dollar behemoth dead set on destroying your career if you cross them.
Next, Fish said there is no $$$ in vaccines, once again you are being deceived. http://www.4-traders.com/news/Global...ket--20314140/
Back on topic, this is pretty much what is going on nationally and locally. http://www.bolenreport.com/autism/an...ine%20yes8.htm

I will add additional links of interest throughout this thread.

117 Vaccine injuries and deaths in three months alone
http://vaccineimpact.com/2015/march-...es-and-deaths/
Top Lobbying Industries
https://www.opensecrets.org/lobby/to...e=i&showYear=a
Sharyl Attkisson CBS Emmy award winning 21 year investigative journalist.
https://sharylattkisson.com/what-the...utism-studies/
Science for Sale
http://www.huffingtonpost.com/dr-mar..._b_747325.html

[SAUTO]

Originally Posted by 'Hamas' Jenkins

1) The concern is not legitimate
2) The popularity of an opinion does not legitimize it (flat Earth, geocentricity, miasmas ring a bell?)
3) The significant increase in previously near-eradicated diseases is a threat

And meeting him at a 49er game and him being a nice guy is completely irrelevant to the fact that he continually espouses stupid, dangerous opinions.

I was just going to tell him to go **** himself, you said it better than I could have.

[lewdog]

Originally Posted by Mojo Rising

Dane, Check yourself. BD has a legitimate concern that is shared by many. I personally don't agree and have had my kid vaccinated, but until there is a threat to my kid I think we should let him decide how he should raise his kids.

I have noticed over the years that your posts have an arch. I am not sure if there is a medication cycle involved or not , however, it usually repeats itself.

You called me a racist many years ago because I thought Barry Bonds wasn't a cool dude. Since then, you have quit the site a couple of times. It appears that your recent make nice attitude may be on the downside.

He also likes Pit Bulls if you want to pile on.

I met Big Daddy at a 49're game with a bunch of other Chief Planet guys LOGICAL (RIP) and he is a good guy. We don't agree on everything but that is what the open forum is all about.

It's not ok to just "disagree" on this issue. It's not ok to go against facts. It's not ok for your choice to have possible worldwide social health issues that could endanger millions.

Now kindly shove that tinfoil hat squarely up your ass.

[Fat Elvis]

Originally Posted by BigRedChief

He doesn't have the right to risk the health of other children. No one does.

Esto.

[Don Corlemahomes]

Originally Posted by teedubya

Please, put anything you want in our body, gub'ment! We trust you, completely!!!!

You aren't just accusing the government here, teedubya. You are accusing all academic medical centers and universities across the country. Which is not only highly, highly, highly unlikely, but also ****ing sad because academia is one of the noblest systems we have.

This topic just affirms my belief that no matter how clear the evidence is, society will always have dunning-kruger idiots around to act like they know more.

BEP, Big Daddy, Teedubya, Clown Killer, etc.

[Mojo Rising]

Originally Posted by JASONSAUTO

I was just going to tell him to go **** himself, you said it better than I could have.

Your post would have made more sense.

I had my child vaccinated, however, this issue is about freedom.

If the vaccine prevents your child from getting the disease, then why do you care if the kid sitting next to him/her is vaccinated? Your kid is safe.

The government was not created forcibly inject kids with medications approved by the government.

[Mojo Rising]

Originally Posted by lewdog

It's not ok to just "disagree" on this issue. It's not ok to go against facts. It's not ok for your choice to have possible worldwide social health issues that could endanger millions.

Now kindly shove that tinfoil hat squarely up your ass.

I have had my kid vaccinated. I don't believe the government should have the power to force people to inject themselves with drugs that they determine are important.

Where is the proof that your vaccinated kid will catch a disease from an un-vaccinated kid? Isn't that the concept of the vaccination?

[Lex Luthor]

Originally Posted by Mojo Rising

I have had my kid vaccinated. I don't believe the government should have the power to force people to inject themselves with drugs that they determine are important.

Where is the proof that your vaccinated kid will catch a disease from an un-vaccinated kid? Isn't that the concept of the vaccination?

Nobody if forcing anyone to do anything. If you don't want to vaccinate your kids, don't vaccinate. Just understand that they won't be allowed to attend public schools, and they'll be rejected by many private schools.

This is not new. The schools required me to get my vaccinations when I was a kid, and that was 50 years ago.

I swear, the butthurt and the hysteria over this is amazing.

[Lex Luthor]

Originally Posted by Mojo Rising

Your post would have made more sense.

I had my child vaccinated, however, this issue is about freedom.

If the vaccine prevents your child from getting the disease, then why do you care if the kid sitting next to him/her is vaccinated? Your kid is safe.

The government was not created forcibly inject kids with medications approved by the government.

The sad thing is that people insist on asking questions that have already been answered over and over. This question has already been answered in this thread. You would be well-advised to read the thread if you're going to post in it.

[Mojo Rising]

Originally Posted by Brainiac

Nobody if forcing anyone to do anything. If you don't want to vaccinate your kids, don't vaccinate. Just understand that they won't be allowed to attend public schools, and they'll be rejected by many private schools.

This is not new. The schools required me to get my vaccinations when I was a kid, and that was 50 years ago.

I swear, the butthurt and the hysteria over this is amazing.

I do not disagree with the vaccination. I had my kid vaccinated.

I do not believe that our government needs to create a new State Law to mandate new rules. That is what I think as a California resident.

I am not butthurt or wear a tinfoil hat. I just don't think we need another state law to dictate how we should act.

Funny thing is that California gets so much crap on this site for being a nanny state. Comments are frequently disparaging about us being too controlling and I am surprised that so many Chief fans want to be in the law writing business.

I would think the tin foil hat people would be the ones with the made up scare factor of your un vaccinated kid is going to get my vaccinated kid sick.

[lewdog]

Originally Posted by Mojo Rising

Where is the proof that your vaccinated kid will catch a disease from an un-vaccinated kid? Isn't that the concept of the vaccination?

I would think the tin foil hat people would be the ones with the made up scare factor of your un vaccinated kid is going to get my vaccinated kid sick.

Are you ****ing serious with both of these statements?

It's already been answered in this thread, I suggest you go back and read it. Vaccinations aren't 100% preventable against an illness. That's a proven, 100% scientific fact.

If we re-introduce a virus in the population from dumbasses who choose not to vaccinate, your own vaccinated kids still stand a chance of acquiring it. You tinfoil hat people seems to have allowed this tinfoil to block your brain from being able to read scientific research.

[Mr. Laz]

Thread title is misleading and should be change.


Vaccinations aren't being forced, they are being made a requirement for the use of certain public services. Big difference.

[splatbass]

Originally Posted by Mojo Rising

I had my child vaccinated, however, this issue is about freedom.

If the vaccine prevents your child from getting the disease, then why do you care if the kid sitting next to him/her is vaccinated? Your kid is safe.

1. You don't get to let your "freedom" take away the freedom of others. A lot of people screaming about freedom don't understand this simple point. Freedom doesn't mean you can do anything you want.

2. Your question has been answered repeatedly in this thread. Vaccines aren't 100% effective, so our kids aren't safe from the kid who isn't vaccinated, and allowing some kids to carry the disease risks the disease mutating into a form that the vaccine is no longer effective on.

I would suggest you learn what freedom and rights mean, along with the RESPONSIBILITY that comes with them. No where does our constitution say that you are free to harm others.

[Dave Lane]

Originally Posted by splatbass

1. You don't get to let your "freedom" take away the freedom of others. A lot of people screaming about freedom don't understand this simple point. Freedom doesn't mean you can do anything you want.

2. Your question has been answered repeatedly in this thread. Vaccines aren't 100% effective, so our kids aren't safe from the kid who isn't vaccinated, and allowing some kids to carry the disease risks the disease mutating into a form that the vaccine is no longer effective on.

I would suggest you learn what freedom and rights mean, along with the RESPONSIBILITY that comes with them. No where does our constitution say that you are free to harm others.

Simple, one would think.

[Brock]

Originally Posted by Mojo Rising

Your post would have made more sense.

I had my child vaccinated, however, this issue is about freedom.

If the vaccine prevents your child from getting the disease, then why do you care if the kid sitting next to him/her is vaccinated? Your kid is safe.

The government was not created forcibly inject kids with medications approved by the government.

All of your stupid questions have already been answered more than once.

[vailpass]

Un****ing believable this is even an issue...