Tom Brady; least clutch QB in NFL history?

[Hootie]

(Slow day at work for me, guys):

Tom Brady:

2005: Gets crushed by Jake Plummer and the Denver Broncos. Plays HORRENDOUSLY. Embarrassingly bad.

2006: Blows an 18 point lead to Peyton Manning in the AFCCG. Plays horrendously, and ends the game in Indy territory throwing a game ending INT to Marlon Jackson. Great clutch play.

2007: 18-1. Scores 14 points in the Super Bowl in a game they are favored to win by 13.5. Also, in the AFCCG against the Chargers, he posted a QB rating of 18 and threw 3 INT's. Very clutch, I know.

2008: KNEE CRUSHER; Cassel wins 11 games as starting QB.

2009: Gets OBLITERATED by Joe Flacco and the Ravens. Loses the game single-handedly in the 1st quarter and posts a WHOPPING QBR OF 4.2. Not a typo. FOUR POINT TWO. FOUR POINT TWO. In reference, Peyton posted a 24.4 last year against Seattle in the Super Bowl. So picture how bad that performance was, and multiply it by about 25.

2010: Lost @ home to MARK SANCHEZ AND THE JETS. But don't worry guys, Tom Brady doubled his QBR in this one and posted a respectable 8.7 EIGHT POINT SEVEN.

2011: Got to the Super Bowl by beating Tim Tebow, playing HORRENDOUSLY against the Ravens (again) in the Lee Evans game, and then overthrowing Welker to lose another Super Bowl. Clutch.

2012: Got obliterated by Joe Flacco and the Ravens despite being favored by 7. He posted a respectable 40 QBR, though, and only lost by 15 ... despite Peyton beating the team the week before only to be Rahim Moore'd. Great clutch play.

2013: Beat Andrew Luck despite throwing 0 TD's. Lost to Peyton Manning, while playing another mediocre game. 1 TD. Very clutch, Mr. Brady!

So, in short, the biggest playoff choking QB in the NFL right now is Tom Brady. In all of those aforementioned choke jobs, he was favored to lose TWICE, both to Peyton Manning (both losses).

Any more myths you want be to bust?

4.2 QBR and 8.7 QBR is Rex Grossman bad, in case anyone wanted a reference point.

[Hootie]

Had they won, they would've had, perhaps, a 10% chance at home field.

Like the Bills are going to go into Foxboro and beat the Patriots next week.

Give me a ****ing break.

The game meant very little to Denver. You guys are so ****ing dumb.

[Hootie]

Originally Posted by LoneWolf

I agree that Brady has had some awful playoff games in the last 10 years, but where you go off the rails is by insinuating that Brady is the least clutch QB in "NFL HISTORY". Statements like that are just plain stupid and make it very hard to take your opinion/arguments seriously.

You guys confuse questions with statements.

The OP clearly was "IS Tom Brady ..." NOT "Tom Brady IS ..."

You're smarter than this.

The topic, like the Rodgers topic, was started to create conversation about two QB's who get free passes when the fail.

[Brock]

Originally Posted by Hootie 2.0

Had they won, they would've had, perhaps, a 10% chance at home field.

Like the Bills are going to go into Foxboro and beat the Patriots next week.

Give me a ****ing break.

The game meant very little to Denver. You guys are so ****ing dumb.

One thing is for certain. New england now doesn't have to care about beating ****ing buffalo. They can sit their starters the whole game if they want to. LOL. And you think you're knowledgeable.

[GoChargers]

Originally Posted by Hootie 2.0

Sure. Read the OP. That's pretty anti-clutch.

Reading the OP...

Originally Posted by Hootie 2.0

Peyton Manning

Damn, you're right - that is pretty anti-clutch.

[GoChargers]

Originally Posted by Hootie 2.0

Had they won, they would've had, perhaps, a 10% chance at home field.

And then this happened:

[Hootie]

that was a must win

you know

until next week, and then the playoffs

strange definition of must win

[The Bunk]

Originally Posted by Hootie 2.0

You guys confuse questions with statements.

The OP clearly was "IS Tom Brady ..." NOT "Tom Brady IS ..."

You're smarter than this.

The topic, like the Rodgers topic, was started to create conversation about two QB's who get free passes when the fail.

I award you no points, and may God have mercy on your soul.

[Eleazar]

Trying to top your "Aaron Rodgers is overrated" dumbassery I see?

[Imon Yourside]

I Think Sean Connery said it best..

Losers always whine about their best, while winners go home and **** the prom Queen.

[Eleazar]

Originally Posted by KILLER_CLOWN

I Think Sean Connery said it best..

Losers always whine about their best, while winners go home and **** the prom Queen.

Exactly.

This person who people clammored to have back after numerous bannings sure is bringing the hot football insight he was supposedly known for.

This place is so dumb, there are people who will call Tom Brady and Aaron Rodgers overrated and chokers. That's what has become of CP.

[Amnorix]

Originally Posted by Hootie 2.0

and if you take out Spygate Brady is 0-2 against Manning and has ZERO Super Bowl wins

Well, we could if spygate wasnt' a joke, but whatever makes you happy.

we can go back and forth all night long

neither will win

I can look Brady look every bit as bad as you can make Manning look - I promise

You can try, and maybe convince yourself in your own mind, but pretty clearly you aren't convincing anyone on this board except maybe RamJetDumbass, which isn't exactly someone I would be happy to have on my "team".

[Amnorix]

Originally Posted by Hootie 2.0

how is it a fact?

Please, back up this fact with actual evidence.

Just because the media has given a pass to Tom Brady for 10 years regardless of how Tom Brady loses in the postseason, doesn't make him less of a 'choker' than Peyton Manning.

I provided all of the data in the OP. Brady had several terrible postseason games. Why are his terrible games less of a choke than Manning's terrible games?

I need you to explain.

The EIGHT one and dones really don't serve Manning's cause. Brady had two, in back to back years, with teams that had serious flaws. Manning's happened even when he had the number two defense in the NFL. Ouch.

[Amnorix]

Originally Posted by Hootie 2.0

he wasn't playing against the Mark Sanchez led New York Jets?

I can't quite comprehend the nitpick.

He lost to Mark Sanchez in the playoffs. He lost to Joe Flacco 3 times in the playoffs.

I don't even understand this dumbass argument. Manning lost to the SAME "SANCHEZ" TEAM IN THE SAME PLAYOFFS. Do you really want me to go back and count every QB Manning lost to in the playoffs? All 12? Just the 8 one and dones? Do you think they will be all HOF QBs that he "lost to"?

This is dumb. You need to stop.

[Amnorix]

Originally Posted by 'Hamas' Jenkins

TL;DR version: people are ****ing stupid.

Your long post is pretty much spot on.

[Rams Fan]

Originally Posted by Amnorix

I don't even understand this dumbass argument. Manning lost to the SAME "SANCHEZ" TEAM IN THE SAME PLAYOFFS. Do you really want me to go back and count every QB Manning lost to in the playoffs? All 12? Just the 8 one and dones? Do you think they will be all HOF QBs that he "lost to"?

This is dumb. You need to stop.

The Patriots are still nothing in the POs without a bit of film.