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Old 09-11-2017, 12:36 PM   #1
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We are adults, numbed by everything that has already been done. Very rarely (if ever) is a movie going to "scare" adults anymore...

I'm pretty sure this movie was "scary" for kids though. When I saw the original mini series on TV, it scared the shit out of me as my parents probably laughed through it. Tim Curry's version was pretty damn funny and playful. The new Pennywise is evil.

I've seen some people on facebook (land of idiots) say "It wasn't scary... the movie sucked."
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It wasn't scary other than a couple of jump scares. But it was creepy as **** in a few places. I liked it. I liked it a lot. Can't wait for part two.
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Old 09-11-2017, 05:11 PM   #2
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I'd give it a 7/10. Above average.. at best. Far too disappointing for me tbh. It was exactly what I expected it would be, which was take everything about the original series and then give it a juvenile "modern" treatment: Pennywise is ultraviolent (and barely even characterized), the bullies are ultraviolent, the kids swear every two seconds, every single scene is a scare back to back to back.

Here are the number of problems I can think of off the top of my head:
  • Pennywise is no longer creepy. They tried really, really hard to make him as scary as possible but it's all superficial: CGI-added every single scene he's in, the trashy outfit.. everything creepy and ****ed up about Pennywise was removed. He barely even talks. The actor himself looks too young too. Something about the older-looking Pennywise plays well into the creep factor. Beverly's dad was more scary than Pennywise.
  • "Sexy teen" being a plot point. Yes, the series made a point of making Beverly desirable to the other characters, but not to this extent where she's using it to manipulate the pharmacist, be slut-shamed at school, etc. The dad featured a little too much, we already got the point in the very first scene he was in.
  • Every scene is a scare.
  • The kids weren't this stupid in the series (is that a noise? I better go walk towards it.. and then repeat this fifty times over).
  • The relationship between the kids. This may be excused because they had far less time to squeeze this into a 2.25hr movie but still, they might as well have cut out Stan and a few of the other kids like Mike. Stan's pragmatic and logical defiance to the reality of the situation was shown for like two seconds, just like the rest of his character. They similarly had a tough time even justifying why Mike is in the script at all. The relationship between Bill and Ben isn't there.. in fact.. no one even seems to like Ben at all. The series made a point to develop their friendship and trust, not sure why anyone cares about Ben in the movie.
  • Richie was too much. Just felt like cheap humor. He was originally goofy and annoying in the series, but here he's just kind of shitty. The Stranger Things kid was chewing the scenery. I understand why this is a fan favorite but it just felt out of place for me.
  • Completely eliminated the plot thread of each having a weird quirk which later is shown to have gone away when they're older (which subsequently comes back when IT does)

So all in all, its enjoyable and solid, I guess. But if you were creeped the **** out by the original series and loved it despite it's quirks (that horrible second half), can't help but be disappointed with this one. Not scary or creepy one bit.
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Old 09-12-2017, 12:10 PM   #3
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I'd give it a 7/10. Above average.. at best. Far too disappointing for me tbh. It was exactly what I expected it would be, which was take everything about the original series and then give it a juvenile "modern" treatment: Pennywise is ultraviolent (and barely even characterized), the bullies are ultraviolent, the kids swear every two seconds, every single scene is a scare back to back to back.

Here are the number of problems I can think of off the top of my head:
  • Pennywise is no longer creepy. They tried really, really hard to make him as scary as possible but it's all superficial: CGI-added every single scene he's in, the trashy outfit.. everything creepy and ****ed up about Pennywise was removed. He barely even talks. The actor himself looks too young too. Something about the older-looking Pennywise plays well into the creep factor. Beverly's dad was more scary than Pennywise.
  • "Sexy teen" being a plot point. Yes, the series made a point of making Beverly desirable to the other characters, but not to this extent where she's using it to manipulate the pharmacist, be slut-shamed at school, etc. The dad featured a little too much, we already got the point in the very first scene he was in.
  • Every scene is a scare.
  • The kids weren't this stupid in the series (is that a noise? I better go walk towards it.. and then repeat this fifty times over).
  • The relationship between the kids. This may be excused because they had far less time to squeeze this into a 2.25hr movie but still, they might as well have cut out Stan and a few of the other kids like Mike. Stan's pragmatic and logical defiance to the reality of the situation was shown for like two seconds, just like the rest of his character. They similarly had a tough time even justifying why Mike is in the script at all. The relationship between Bill and Ben isn't there.. in fact.. no one even seems to like Ben at all. The series made a point to develop their friendship and trust, not sure why anyone cares about Ben in the movie.
  • Richie was too much. Just felt like cheap humor. He was originally goofy and annoying in the series, but here he's just kind of shitty. The Stranger Things kid was chewing the scenery. I understand why this is a fan favorite but it just felt out of place for me.
  • Completely eliminated the plot thread of each having a weird quirk which later is shown to have gone away when they're older (which subsequently comes back when IT does)

So all in all, its enjoyable and solid, I guess. But if you were creeped the **** out by the original series and loved it despite it's quirks (that horrible second half), can't help but be disappointed with this one. Not scary or creepy one bit.
As much as I enjoyed the movie, you made many good points that I actually agree with. After some thinking, I still think the original mini-series was done way better considering the era in which it came out.
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Old 09-11-2017, 06:17 PM   #4
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If it is anywhere near as bad as the original IT, it will be ****ing horrible. I just don't understand the horror genre, though.
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Old 09-11-2017, 08:57 PM   #5
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I started reading Stephen King books back in the mid 70's and Carrie was the first horror movie that kept me scared after the movie was over (as a teenager).

The horror genre is my favorite type of movie to see as well as book to read. I always expect a lot less from a Stephen King movie because I have already read the story on which it is based and so much of what is put in (many) books just can't be translated to film.

I didn't find it terribly scary, it followed the book well in some aspects in others not. Bevvie's dad was important to the story as was Eddie's clinging mother, but it didn't touch on Bill's parents grief at all which I thought was important. Richie did not have to be as important but the actor is probably the best known of the bunch so keep him front and center. Lots of other things vs the book but it wasn't a bad movie. The only time I jumped was when the music suddenly blasted after silence (twice). The crude jokes would have been hilarious if they hadn't contained **** so many times.

Pennywise was scary like a pervert or creeper following you around, Tim Curry Pennywise was more like Hannibal Lector following you around. One makes your skin crawl the other makes you crap your pants in fear.

Although it may read otherwise I enjoyed the movie and will definitely see Chapter 2.
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Old 09-11-2017, 10:28 PM   #6
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Saw IT today. I really liked the movie itself. Very entertaining and engaging throughout. I'm glad there wasn't a rape scene as some had suggested, and I didn't mind the kids cursing non stop, not a big deal to me. It was actually a comedic horror style to me.
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Old 09-14-2017, 01:10 PM   #7
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Anyone think they pussified Pennywise?

The kids don't really have much internal conflict to hunt and kill Pennywise.

It all seemed so matter of fact.
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Old 09-14-2017, 01:28 PM   #8
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Saw IT last night and enjoyed IT quite a bit.

I actually liked it more than the original (ducks for cover). Loved the humor, didn't mind the cussing. Sure, we could sit here and nitpick it as it wasn't perfect.

The kids always wandering off annoyed me more than anything. "Guys, we gotta stick together"...and then a kid immediately wanders off...every freakin' time.

It was engaging, it was humorous, i thought they executed the time period extremely well and i thought Pennywise was significantly more creepy than the original.
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I actually liked it more than the original (ducks for cover)..
I agree. I don't understand the love for the tv series. It was bad.
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Saw IT last night and enjoyed IT quite a bit.

I actually liked it more than the original (ducks for cover). Loved the humor, didn't mind the cussing. Sure, we could sit here and nitpick it as it wasn't perfect.

The kids always wandering off annoyed me more than anything. "Guys, we gotta stick together"...and then a kid immediately wanders off...every freakin' time.

It was engaging, it was humorous, i thought they executed the time period extremely well and i thought Pennywise was significantly more creepy than the original.
I tried to watch the original a couple days ago after watching this remake. It was bad. Really really bad.
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I tried to watch the original a couple days ago after watching this remake. It was bad. Really really bad.
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Saw IT last night and enjoyed IT quite a bit.

I actually liked it more than the original (ducks for cover). Loved the humor, didn't mind the cussing. Sure, we could sit here and nitpick it as it wasn't perfect.

The kids always wandering off annoyed me more than anything. "Guys, we gotta stick together"...and then a kid immediately wanders off...every freakin' time.

It was engaging, it was humorous, i thought they executed the time period extremely well and i thought Pennywise was significantly more creepy than the original.
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The new one is better than the ****ing mini-series. People get nostalgic and refuse to be open minded. The newest was scarier and way less “campy.”

Curry was great, sure. However, he was never really all that frightening. My only bitch with the new one is that pennywise is supposed to be a bit less scary at first. As soon as you see him, you know that no kid is going to run up and ask for a goddamned balloon. They’ll be too busy pissing themselves. They just did it too well. Great flick though. Can’t wait for the next one.
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I'm completely opposite of everybody else. I thought the original was more scarier than the new one. I couldn't tell if he was a clown or a ****ing jackrabbit. I don't like how they made him scary looking, he wasn't inviting like the original clown. I didn't live up to the hype and the beginning scene was far from brutal. It was pretty weak. Even the library scene with the eggs made me think he was a ****ing rabbit. 2.5 stars out of 4
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I'm completely opposite of everybody else. I thought the original was more scarier than the new one. I couldn't tell if he was a clown or a ****ing jackrabbit. I don't like how they made him scary looking, he wasn't inviting like the original clown. I didn't live up to the hype and the beginning scene was far from brutal. It was pretty weak. Even the library scene with the eggs made me think he was a ****ing rabbit. 2.5 stars out of 4
Fake looking CGI ruined the Georgie scene for me in the new one.
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