2015 Fantasy Discussion - Page 15

Urc Burry · 07-29-2015, 09:25 PM

Drafts coming up in a couple weeks, and I haven't seen a thread yet.

Was wanting to get some input overrated players/sleepers/strategies etc.

I've been going back and forth on what I want to do with my 2nd rounder. I've done a few mocks, and I really want to take Luck in the 2nd.. but I just can't seem to get as good of a team that route.

Also for the later 1st round who do you take out of CJ Anderson, Jeremy Hill, and Demarco Murray? To me its between Murray and CJ.. Leaning towards Murray. I don't think there will be a huge dropoff for him this year like everyone else seems to think

Not a huge sleeper, but I've been taking Jordan Matthews in just about every mock. I think he is going to have a HUGE year and he will be great value. Even Agholor should be a good late pick. Also Martavis Bryant. I think they finally found the guy to take some pressure off of Antonio Brown. Lastly I like Ameer Abdullah.. he should be a great fit in that offense, and I saw that Bell is going to start the season on the PUP

**ChiefGator** · 09-24-2015, 08:53 AM

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Originally Posted by Discuss Thrower

Ignoring the Kelce/Green trade that was protested and the Rodgers/Watkins for Abdullah trade:

Palmer, Cam Newton.
Morris, Coleman, ArtisPayne
Sanders, Tate, Decker, Moncrief, Stills, Austin, Wilson
Sefarian-Jenkins
Dolphins DST
Crosby
Dolphins HC

Drop Austin and Wilson and pick up better players. Hell, McCluster and Williams.

Keep Rodgers! Trade Palmer or Newton preferably.

If RB's are over valued, try packaging two of your lower WRs and get a better WR.

Hell, I am rolling out with Bridgewater and Bortles because QBs are so over valued in that league, so I was able to stock up on other positions, most notably WR and RB.

Discuss Thrower · 09-24-2015, 08:59 AM

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Originally Posted by ChiefGator

Drop Austin and Wilson and pick up better players. Hell, McCluster and Williams.

Keep Rodgers! Trade Palmer or Newton preferably.

If RB's are over valued, try packaging two of your lower WRs and get a better WR.

Hell, I am rolling out with Bridgewater and Bortles because QBs are so over valued in that league, so I was able to stock up on other positions, most notably WR and RB.

I claimed McCluster, added Williams and the Indy guy behind Gore.

**The Franchise** · 09-24-2015, 09:30 AM

When you get a chance....post the rosters of the teams you had agreed to trades with. I want to see what they're working with.

Discuss Thrower · 09-24-2015, 09:39 AM

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Originally Posted by Pestilence

When you get a chance....post the rosters of the teams you had agreed to trades with. I want to see what they're working with.

Guy who gave up Golden Tate for Graham

Spoiler!

Guy had Rodgers and Watkins for Abdullah trade vetoed:

Spoiler!

Commish offering Sankey and Rudolph for Kelce

Spoiler!

Commish offering Charles Sims, Charles Clay and Eddie Royal for Decker and Kelce

Spoiler!

**The Franchise** · 09-24-2015, 09:52 AM

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Originally Posted by Discuss Thrower

Guy who gave up Golden Tate for Graham

Spoiler!

Ummm....why the **** aren't you going after a better RB instead of Tate? Just because that's what he offers...doesn't mean you have to accept it. I would have countered with Graham for Foster.

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Originally Posted by Discuss Thrower

Guy had Rodgers and Watkins for Abdullah trade vetoed:

Spoiler!

That guy was ****ed because of Romo and he knew it. You're giving up the #1 QB in the game. I would have told him that he needed to give me Forte and Abdullah if he wanted Rodgers. Rodgers is worth 100 times more than just Abdullah.

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Originally Posted by Discuss Thrower

Commish offering Sankey and Rudolph for Kelce

Spoiler!

Your commish is a douche. He wants Kelce? Give me Martin. He doesn't need Kelce and if he wants the luxury of having him...he can give up value. I wouldn't trade Kelce though.

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Originally Posted by Discuss Thrower

Commish offering Charles Sims, Charles Clay and Eddie Royal for Decker and Kelce

Spoiler!

Yet another douche. You want Kelce and Decker? I want Randle or Hill.

**The Franchise** · 09-24-2015, 09:56 AM

You're literally making trades when you don't have to. These guys know that you have a hole at RB....so they're going to try and **** you over. Don't let them.

If they want to add better players to their rosters....then they can give you better value.

Discuss Thrower · 09-24-2015, 09:57 AM

I actually offered the Graham trade. Flame on, I've accepted that, but I'm not buying he's going to look any better than he has in Seattle because of who else they have available to throw to.

Every other deal I wouldn't even bother with when I got rejected for one sided deals like Kelce for Spiller. These people want a premium guy at TE or WR for way less than premium players at RB because the league has circlejerked itself into overvaluing RBs by having a nine player bench and being able to have eight rushers rostered.

**The Franchise** · 09-24-2015, 10:00 AM

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Originally Posted by Discuss Thrower

I actually offered the Graham trade. Flame on, I've accepted that, but I'm not buying he's going to look any better than he has in Seattle because of who else they have available to throw to.

Every other deal I wouldn't even bother with when I got rejected for one sided deals like Kelce for Spiller. These people want a premium guy at TE or WR for way less than premium players at RB because the league has circlejerked itself into overvaluing RBs by having a nine player bench and being able to have eight rushers rostered.

Then don't ****ing trade. It does you no good to dump value from your roster for little to nothing in return. Ride the waiver wire RBs and hold out hope that the rest of your roster can give you wins.

Why the **** would you want to stack their rosters for them?

Guess what they can do all of those RBs on their rosters? Nothing. They're going to start 2 of them each week and they'll lose out on the value of actually trading them. By giving them value for their shit RBs....you're helping them out and not helping yourself out.

Rodgers is worth 2 RBs alone.....and I'm talking two top 20 RBs.

And FFS......I know you hate the Chiefs....but hold onto Kelce and start him each week. ****ing hell man.

Discuss Thrower · 09-24-2015, 10:03 AM

Quote:

Originally Posted by Pestilence

Then don't ****ing trade. It does you no good to dump value from your roster for little to nothing in return. Ride the waiver wire RBs and hold out hope that the rest of your roster can give you wins.

Why the **** would you want to stack their rosters for them?

Guess what they can do all of those RBs on their rosters? Nothing. They're going to start 2 of them each week and they'll lose out on the value of actually trading them. By giving them value for their shit RBs....you're helping them out and not helping yourself out.

Rodgers is worth 2 RBs alone.....and I'm talking two top 20 RBs.

And FFS......I know you hate the Chiefs....but hold onto Kelce and start him each week. ****ing hell man.

I think Kelce is getting neutered by playcalling and Smith deciding that James O'Shaughnessy is a good idea to throw to. It's not a hate thing as much as I think getting a return for the value he *should* have in a vacuum before tis happens.

I also think the risk of injury to Kelce outweighs the value of keeping him.

**The Franchise** · 09-24-2015, 10:04 AM

Quote:

Originally Posted by Discuss Thrower

I think Kelce is getting neutered by playcalling and Smith deciding that James O'Shaughnessy is a good idea to throw to. It's not a hate thing as much as I think getting a return for the value he *should* have in a vacuum before tis happens.

I also think the risk of injury to Kelce outweighs the value of keeping him.

Then you're beyond help. Kelce will finish this season as a top 5 fantasy TE.

Kelce only brings you value when you actually trade him for something to better your team. Trading him for another shitty RB to go with your other shitty RBs doesn't bring you value.

Discuss Thrower · 09-24-2015, 10:08 AM

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Originally Posted by Pestilence

Then you're beyond help. Kelce will finish this season as a top 5 fantasy TE.

Kelce only brings you value when you actually trade him for something to better your team. Trading him for another shitty RB to go with your other shitty RBs doesn't bring you value.

I doubt he's top 5. And if he is top 5, it's because there's a huge gulf between Gronk and the other top four but not a lot of difference from the #6 guy on down.

Discuss Thrower · 09-24-2015, 10:11 AM

Just received this gem of a deal:

Rodgers, Kelce, Decker, Tevin Coleman

for

Eli, Jordan Reed, Dion Lewis, Andre Johnson, Nelson Agholor

Told the guy to **** himself.

**The Franchise** · 09-24-2015, 10:24 AM

What's his roster? I would counter.

Discuss Thrower · 09-24-2015, 10:26 AM

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Originally Posted by Pestilence

What's his roster? I would counter.

Spoiler!

**The Franchise** · 09-24-2015, 10:28 AM

You still have Palmer and Newton right?

If you want to trade Rodgers and Kelce.....then I would counter with this.

Rodgers, Decker and Kelce
for
J. Charles, A. Robinson, J. Matthews and Ebron

07-29-2015, 09:25 PM
Urc Burry Veteran Join Date: Jan 2011 Casino cash: $9031048	2015 Fantasy Discussion Drafts coming up in a couple weeks, and I haven't seen a thread yet. Was wanting to get some input overrated players/sleepers/strategies etc. I've been going back and forth on what I want to do with my 2nd rounder. I've done a few mocks, and I really want to take Luck in the 2nd.. but I just can't seem to get as good of a team that route. Also for the later 1st round who do you take out of CJ Anderson, Jeremy Hill, and Demarco Murray? To me its between Murray and CJ.. Leaning towards Murray. I don't think there will be a huge dropoff for him this year like everyone else seems to think Not a huge sleeper, but I've been taking Jordan Matthews in just about every mock. I think he is going to have a HUGE year and he will be great value. Even Agholor should be a good late pick. Also Martavis Bryant. I think they finally found the guy to take some pressure off of Antonio Brown. Lastly I like Ameer Abdullah.. he should be a great fit in that offense, and I saw that Bell is going to start the season on the PUP
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09-24-2015, 09:30 AM	#213
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09-24-2015, 09:56 AM	#216
The Franchise Most Valuable Villain Join Date: Dec 2006 Casino cash: $2715047	You're literally making trades when you don't have to. These guys know that you have a hole at RB....so they're going to try and **** you over. Don't let them. If they want to add better players to their rosters....then they can give you better value.
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09-24-2015, 09:57 AM	#217
Discuss Thrower "You like to drink?" Join Date: Jun 2006 Location: "I like to drink." Casino cash: $2866869	I actually offered the Graham trade. Flame on, I've accepted that, but I'm not buying he's going to look any better than he has in Seattle because of who else they have available to throw to. Every other deal I wouldn't even bother with when I got rejected for one sided deals like Kelce for Spiller. These people want a premium guy at TE or WR for way less than premium players at RB because the league has circlejerked itself into overvaluing RBs by having a nine player bench and being able to have eight rushers rostered. __________________ Chiefs 2016 Opponents: Home: JAX, TEN, NO, TB, NYJ. Away: HOU, IND, ATL, CAR, PIT Chiefs 2017 Opponents: Home: BUF, MIA, PHI, WSH, AFC North. Away: NE, NYJ, NYG, DAL, AFC South
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09-24-2015, 10:11 AM	#222
Discuss Thrower "You like to drink?" Join Date: Jun 2006 Location: "I like to drink." Casino cash: $2866869	Just received this gem of a deal: Rodgers, Kelce, Decker, Tevin Coleman for Eli, Jordan Reed, Dion Lewis, Andre Johnson, Nelson Agholor Told the guy to ** himself. __________________ Chiefs 2016 Opponents: Home: JAX, TEN, NO, TB, NYJ. Away: HOU, IND, ATL, CAR, PIT Chiefs 2017 Opponents**: Home: BUF, MIA, PHI, WSH, AFC North. Away: NE, NYJ, NYG, DAL, AFC South
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09-24-2015, 10:24 AM	#223
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09-24-2015, 10:28 AM	#225
The Franchise Most Valuable Villain Join Date: Dec 2006 Casino cash: $2715047	You still have Palmer and Newton right? If you want to trade Rodgers and Kelce.....then I would counter with this. Rodgers, Decker and Kelce for J. Charles, A. Robinson, J. Matthews and Ebron
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