MU ****Official 2015 Missouri Tigers Football Thread**** - Page 148

'Hamas' Jenkins · 10:48 PM

After seizing the Citrus Bowl from Jerry Kill and the Minnesota Golden Gophers, the Missouri Tigers finish 11-3.

Italics=Likely sign and place
Bold=JUCO recruit

Key Recruits:

2016 Class:

Spoiler!

Schedule:

9/5: SEMO
9/12 @Ark St.
9/19: UConn
9/26: @Kentucky
10/3: South Carolina
10/10: Florida
10/17 @ Georgia
10/24: @ Vandy
10/31: Bye
11/5 (Thu): Mississippi State
11/14: BYU (@ Arrowhead)
11/21: Tennessee
11/28: @Arkansas

**petegz28** · 11-13-2015, 09:28 AM

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Originally Posted by Reaper16

I don't agree that that's happening. There are ways in which America has made progress with racism and ways in which it hasn't. Neither definition of racism is jeopardized by the progresses that have been made. Neither construction of racism has been weakened to the point that any damn person in America should feel comfortable with "how far we've come."

And no damn person in American should be ignorant, belittle or otherwise dismiss how far we have come.

DJ's left nut · 11-13-2015, 09:53 AM

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Originally Posted by Reaper16

I'm not understanding Lambert's connection between that MUPD email (which I hope was limited to the climate of the protests, because yeah, that's a bit much for the police to be the first response to a slur incident) and the self-congratulating email from Purdue's president. One is an email from campus police & one is an email from a school president. Besides, Lambert doesn't mention that for all the pats on the back that Purdue was giving itself in that email, Purdue has, according to recent FBI statistics, the 2nd most hate crimes of any university in the United States.

You realize campus police operates at the direction of the University, yes?

How do you not see the relationship between one University emphasizing that they will be a marketplace of ideas and encouraging the free exchange of idea and another saying that you should report 'hurtful' speech? How is it not made even more apparent by the fact that Purdue flat out called out Mizzou and MU's response?

You simply operate in a world of sandbox equality. You treat these people like they're children. If something is 'hurtful' it is per se bad and that whatever means are taken to avoid someone being offended, they're justified (well, presuming said offended person is of a 'marginalized' group, of course).

And your spiel once again assumes that anyone that doesn't by into this new age nonsense is simply ignorant of it rather than simply dismissive of it. That's ivory tower elitism at its finest - if you don't agree with me, you're simply not intelligent or informed enough to understand why you're wrong.

DJ's left nut · 11-13-2015, 10:02 AM

Chiefscountry,

It's my recollection that we spoke some time ago regarding some research you had done on different generations, their outlook and their 'place' in the world. My recollection is that you theorized that Gen X was something of a forgotten generation that was likely to be stepped over by Gen Y due to Gen Y having a pretty strong sense of self-sufficiency, intellectual curiosity and drive.

Well it would seem to me that this is the first batch of children from Gen X that we're dealing with now, yes? Do you think Gen X largely has been stepped over by Gen Y and that perhaps that marginalization has led to feelings of resentment that have been handed down to their children?

I only ask this because I have a 1 yr old and I can tell you this - there is no way on this earth or any other that I'm going to coddle her to the extent this present group has been coddled. To some degree I think that's how I was raised but I also think it's a reaction to frustrations I've had watching how people have handled children for the last 15 years. The participation medal generation has grown up and man are they every bit the whiny, entitled little shitheels I was worried they'd be.

So I'd say you're probably the best informed of us on subjects like this. When I look at the current crop of college kids, I'm shockingly secure in my place in the world (because there's no way this pack of pampered toddlers is knocking me off a perch), but at the same time I'd like someone to keep the country on the rails during my retirement years. Could this be another cycle like Gen X and Gen Y where the current crop (largely children of Gen X) is stepped over by the next wave (Children of Gen Y)?

The idea of generations cycling and how their worldview depends on which generation spawned them is fascinating as hell to me.

**Reaper16** · 11-13-2015, 10:06 AM

Quote:

Originally Posted by DJ's left nut

You realize campus police operates at the direction of the University, yes?

How do you not see the relationship between one University emphasizing that they will be a marketplace of ideas and encouraging the free exchange of idea and another saying that you should report 'hurtful' speech? How is it not made even more apparent by the fact that Purdue flat out called out Mizzou and MU's response?

You simply operate in a world of sandbox equality. You treat these people like they're children. If something is 'hurtful' it is per se bad and that whatever means are taken to avoid someone being offended, they're justified (well, presuming said offended person is of a 'marginalized' group, of course).

And your spiel once again assumes that anyone that doesn't by into this new age nonsense is simply ignorant of it rather than simply dismissive of it. That's ivory tower elitism at its finest - if you don't agree with me, you're simply not intelligent or informed enough to understand why you're wrong.

Well, I said in the post you quoted that I thought a general policy of police being first responders verbal abuse is a bit much, but whatever.

KChiefs1 · 11-13-2015, 01:18 PM

Lost recruit:
https://www.seccountry.com/missouri/...-amid-protests

baitism · 11-13-2015, 01:37 PM

I'm a life long Mizzou fan, but I hope the football program tanks until Stinkel is gone. Dude mixed sports and politics in college. It's embarrassing.

**Reaper16** · 11-13-2015, 01:49 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by KChiefs1

Lost recruit:
https://www.seccountry.com/missouri/...-amid-protests

Martin doesn't realize that things will be just as bad at all of those schools in his top 5 in terms of racism & marginalization (well, LSU less so; they have a double digit percentage of African-American students). You don't "go back in time" anywhere in America.

WhawhaWhat · 11-13-2015, 01:51 PM

Don't know why but Pinkel's Tuesday interview on WHB resurfacing on Twitter. Protest supporters suddenly enraged at Missouri coach
— Dave Matter (@Dave_Matter) November 13, 2015

Al Czervik · 11-13-2015, 01:53 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by WhawhaWhat

Don't know why but Pinkel's Tuesday interview on WHB resurfacing on Twitter. Protest supporters suddenly enraged at Missouri coach
— Dave Matter (@Dave_Matter) November 13, 2015

Give me a few minutes to put up my "shocked" face....
OOFC

**petegz28** · 11-13-2015, 01:54 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by WhawhaWhat

Don't know why but Pinkel's Tuesday interview on WHB resurfacing on Twitter. Protest supporters suddenly enraged at Missouri coach
— Dave Matter (@Dave_Matter) November 13, 2015

Enraged at him for what?

DJ's left nut · 11-13-2015, 01:56 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by Reaper16

Martin doesn't realize that things will be just as bad at all of those schools in his top 5 in terms of racism & marginalization (well, LSU less so; they have a double digit percentage of African-American students). You don't "go back in time" anywhere in America.

Y'know that old saying - when somebody's an asshole, they're probably an asshole. When everyone's an asshole, you're probably the asshole?

I'd imagine when it gets down to it, you'd probably claim that every major state University in the country has a race problem.

Maybe, just maybe, on a campus with 30,000 people you're going to find some people that say 'hurtful things' to each other. And maybe, just maybe, that's not evidence of anything the University has done wrong.

Oh, but that's right - if there are a lot of black people in a given population, clearly that means that there's less racism there. Y'know, like Mississippi, Georgia and (surprise) Louisiana. Nah...no race issues there because a full 1/3 of the population in those states are black. If having a higher percentage of black students makes LSU less racist than its counterparts, clearly those are also the least racist states in the union.

WhawhaWhat · 11-13-2015, 01:57 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by petegz28

Enraged at him for what?

Dumb broads like this one..

You support your black players but you don't support the cause?! That's not support @GaryPinkel #ConcernedStudent1950
— Johnetta Elzie (@Nettaaaaaaaa) November 13, 2015

DJ's left nut · 11-13-2015, 01:58 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by petegz28

Enraged at him for what?

Gee, what are the odds?

KCUnited · 11-13-2015, 02:00 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by KChiefs1

Lost recruit:
https://www.seccountry.com/missouri/...-amid-protests

Wait, you're not forced into where you go to college?

**Bowser** · 11-13-2015, 02:02 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by WhawhaWhat

Dumb broads like this one..

You support your black players but you don't support the cause?! That's not support @GaryPinkel #ConcernedStudent1950
— Johnetta Elzie (@Nettaaaaaaaa) November 13, 2015

JFC

What are the odds that she was one of the black students that kicked out the white students standing with them so she could have her "healing space"?

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11-13-2015, 10:02 AM	#2208
DJ's left nut Sauntering Vaguely Downwards Join Date: Sep 2005 Location: Columbia, Mo Casino cash: $1559099	Chiefscountry, It's my recollection that we spoke some time ago regarding some research you had done on different generations, their outlook and their 'place' in the world. My recollection is that you theorized that Gen X was something of a forgotten generation that was likely to be stepped over by Gen Y due to Gen Y having a pretty strong sense of self-sufficiency, intellectual curiosity and drive. Well it would seem to me that this is the first batch of children from Gen X that we're dealing with now, yes? Do you think Gen X largely has been stepped over by Gen Y and that perhaps that marginalization has led to feelings of resentment that have been handed down to their children? I only ask this because I have a 1 yr old and I can tell you this - there is no way on this earth or any other that I'm going to coddle her to the extent this present group has been coddled. To some degree I think that's how I was raised but I also think it's a reaction to frustrations I've had watching how people have handled children for the last 15 years. The participation medal generation has grown up and man are they every bit the whiny, entitled little shitheels I was worried they'd be. So I'd say you're probably the best informed of us on subjects like this. When I look at the current crop of college kids, I'm shockingly secure in my place in the world (because there's no way this pack of pampered toddlers is knocking me off a perch), but at the same time I'd like someone to keep the country on the rails during my retirement years. Could this be another cycle like Gen X and Gen Y where the current crop (largely children of Gen X) is stepped over by the next wave (Children of Gen Y)? The idea of generations cycling and how their worldview depends on which generation spawned them is fascinating as hell to me. __________________ "If there's a god, he's laughing at us.....and our football team..." "When you look at something through rose colored glasses, all the red flags just look like flags."
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11-13-2015, 01:37 PM	#2211
baitism Starter Join Date: Jul 2005 Location: Overland Park, KS Casino cash: $4609551	I'm a life long Mizzou fan, but I hope the football program tanks until Stinkel is gone. Dude mixed sports and politics in college. It's embarrassing.
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11-13-2015, 01:51 PM	#2213
WhawhaWhat MVP Join Date: Feb 2013 Casino cash: $101116	Don't know why but Pinkel's Tuesday interview on WHB resurfacing on Twitter. Protest supporters suddenly enraged at Missouri coach — Dave Matter (@Dave_Matter) November 13, 2015
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