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Old 04-28-2013, 03:03 PM  
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Geno Smith vs Alex Smith - It's on.
It's on now. Geno Smith is probably going to be starting for the Jets this season.

Alex Smith will be the Chiefs QB for the forseeable future. If he's a success, we'll probably get five good years out of him.

So who's gonna win more NFL games over that time period?

Put your ten pounders on the table and make a vote

Alex: 11 wins
Geno: 8 wins
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Old 09-06-2013, 11:18 PM   #2206
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Old 09-06-2013, 11:18 PM   #2207
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That says a lot though doesn't it?

Qbs with tools go high, tannehill etc, yet geno and this class dropped like turds.
QBs are a supply-demand issue. If you have two QB-deep drafts in a row with a league that gives them 3+ years, logic dictates that it's likely they won't be snapped up as quickly.

It's not absolutely a dispositive statement about the quality of the class.
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Old 09-06-2013, 11:19 PM   #2208
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Monetarily, the risk is lower.
Oh, and you mean the risk of potentially having zero ****ing chance of winning a SB because the QB is middling at best?

Whew. Glad we dodged that bullet.
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Old 09-06-2013, 11:20 PM   #2209
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Bringing in Bray would have been an intelligent move, even if the Chiefs had selected a QB anywhere in the draft.

Signing Daniel, however, wow. Dumb as ****ing shit.
Oh yes! Let's not forget THAT brilliant stroke of ****ing genius! God damn, Dane; let's get the mighty 411 on THAT sweet-assed move, patn'a!
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Old 09-06-2013, 11:21 PM   #2210
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Gabbert wouldn't have been a first rounder in the 2013 draft, but only because the post RGIII/Luck draft climate is so ****ing stupid.
You're ****ing stupid, regardless of the fact the Gabbert got two head coaches and a GM fired.
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QBs are a supply-demand issue. If you have two QB-deep drafts in a row with a league that gives them 3+ years, logic dictates that it's likely they won't be snapped up as quickly.

It's not absolutely a dispositive statement about the quality of the class.
No, not necessarily, because the teams with the supply aren't the only teams that passed on these qbs.

There was definitely a demand on them, as there always is or will be with qbs at the top of the draft.
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No, the risk ISN'T lower.

GM's and head coaches are still at risk.

They have four years, MAX. If it doesn't turn around, they're gone.
But that's no different from taking any other approach. Alex Smith is a gutless ****ing moved, designed for nothing more than a CYA moment, assuming Reid and Dorsey have half a clue.

Given that the former is reportedly "in love" with Smith, though, we could be in deep ****ing shit.
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Oh, and you mean the risk of potentially having zero ****ing chance of winning a SB because the QB is middling at best?

Whew. Glad we dodged that bullet.
It's not zero chance when the starter was drafted in the first round.
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Gabbert wouldn't have been a first rounder in the 2013 draft, but only because the post RGIII/Luck draft climate is so ****ing stupid.
He most definitely would have. He won 10 games with skill position players far less talented than his successor had, who managed to win 8 and 5 games. He was a concussion away from a BCS game at Missouri. He's 6'5" with good mobility, top notch character, and a very strong arm.

He obviously had severe system issues and pocket presence problems, but there is no chance even the Chiefs would have passed on him at #1 overall last year. He was a superior prospect to Geno in every way.
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Oh, and you mean the risk of potentially having zero ****ing chance of winning a SB because the QB is middling at best?

Whew. Glad we dodged that bullet.
Ok, so this year is SB or bust?
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It's not zero chance when the starter was drafted in the first round.
I thought the same thing with Quinn last year, but sometimes you have to flush even the double-tapered ones.
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It's not zero chance when the starter was drafted in the first round.
Wait, wait; are you REALLY trying to tell us that because Alex was a first rounder who has played long enough in this league to establish his mediocrity, that we should somehow throw a little money down on him in Vegas to win the Chiefs a Super Bowl?

Are you REALLY going this route?

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But that's no different from taking any other approach. Alex Smith is a gutless ****ing moved, designed for nothing more than a CYA moment, assuming Reid and Dorsey have half a clue.

Given that the former is reportedly "in love" with Smith, though, we could be in deep ****ing shit.
I don't know what I can say to convince you.

Unless there's a "no-brainer", GM's and head coaches WILL NOT take a "chance" on a QB in the first round that needs to "sit" for a year.

This year alone, the Jets passed TWICE. The Cards, Jags, Chiefs and other QB needy teams passed.

Those days are over. LONG over.
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