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Old 02-25-2018, 04:32 PM   #2161
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By what statistic? RPI? I couldn’t find it just wondering
Ranking of conferences by AdjEM of team that's expected to go .500 in conference play over the last 14 years (KenPom):
B12: +15.00
B10: +14.46
ACC: +14.42
BE: +14.31
SEC: +11.91
P10/12: +11.67

The Big 12 has also been the best conference over the last five seasons running. There is no argument that can be made that the B12 is "weak" or that some other program from another conference would have done anything like this.
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Top 40 players in win shares over the 14 year KU streak (actives bolded):

1. Mason: 19.2 WS (4 years)
2. Chalmers: 18.5 WS (3 years)
3. Ellis: 17.9 WS (4 years)
4. Graham: 17.1 WS (4 years)
5. Aldrich: 16.5 WS (3 years)
5. Collins: 16.5 WS (4 years)
7. Mc. Morris: 15.2 WS (3 years)
8. Taylor: 15.1 WS (4 years)
9. Rush: 14.9 WS (3 years)
10. Withey: 13.0 WS (4 years)
11. Releford: 12.8 WS (4 years)
12. Jackson: 11.9 WS (4 years)
13. Kaun: 11.8 WS (4 years)
14. Mk. Morris: 10.9 WS (3 years)
15. Wright: 10.8 WS (2 years)
16. Arthur: 10.6 WS (2 years)
16. Robinson: 10.6 WS (3 years)
18. Reed: 10.4 WS (4 years)
19. Johnson: 9.5 WS (4 years)
20. Morningstar: 9.4 WS (4 years)
21. Selden: 9.0 WS (3 years)
22. Mykhaliuk: 8.8 WS (4 years)
23. Lucas: 8.6 (4 years)
24. McLemore: 6.5 WS (1 year)
25. Young: 5.9 WS (2 years)
25. Traylor: 5.9 WS (4 years)
27. Simien: 5.7 WS (1 year)
27. Vick: 5.7 WS (3 years)
29. Henry: 4.9 WS (1 year)
29. Jackson: 4.9 WS (1 year)
29. Wiggins: 4.9 WS (1 year)
32. Tharpe: 4.7 WS (3 years)
32. Azubuike: 4.3 WS (2 years)
33. Greene: 4.2 WS (3 years)
34. Miles: 4.1 WS (1 year)
35. Embiid: 3.4 WS (1 year)
35. Oubre: 3.4 WS (1 year)
37. Newman: 3.2 WS (1 year)
38. Giles: 3.1 WS (1 year)
38. Little: 3.1 WS (2 years)
38. Teahan: 3.1 WS (4 years)

Any surprises? I do think this shows that Devonte is probably the most underrated KU player in a long time.
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Old 02-25-2018, 07:17 PM   #2163
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Also, top 10 KU seasons by win shares since the streak began:
1. Aldrich: 8.3 WS ('08-'09)
2. Chalmers: 7.5 WS ('07-'08)
2. Mason: 7.5 WS ('16-'17)
4. Mc. Morris: 7.2 WS ('10-'11)
4. Robinson: 7.2 WS ('11-'12)
6. Withey: 6.6 WS ('12-'13)
6. Wright: 6.6 WS ('06-'07)
8. McLemore: 6.5 WS ('12-'13)
9. Chalmers: 6.4 WS ('06-'07)
10. D. Jackson: 6.3 WS ('07-'08)
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Old 02-25-2018, 07:18 PM   #2164
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I’m surprised Kaun is higher than Aurthur.
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Old 02-25-2018, 07:21 PM   #2165
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I’m surprised Kaun is higher than Aurthur.
Played two more years than him, but Kaun was always a good player despite what one person here would have you believe.
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Old 02-25-2018, 07:22 PM   #2166
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Old 02-25-2018, 07:22 PM   #2167
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Played two more years than him, but Kaun was always a good player despite what one person here would have you believe.
Oh I’m a huge Kaun fan. I forgot Arthur left early. He was so good.
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Old 02-25-2018, 07:26 PM   #2168
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Oh I’m a huge Kaun fan. I forgot Arthur left early. He was so good.
Arthur also didn't start most of his 1st year which limited his total contribution as well. If I was to do it on a rate statistic basis (WS/40 min), I believe he would only be behind Aldrich.

I will note how many years each player played in parentheses now.
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Old 02-25-2018, 07:38 PM   #2169
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McLemore's 1 year impact (as a frosh) was pretty damned significant at 6.5... I would have thought Wiggins' would have been higher, though.
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McLemore's 1 year impact (as a frosh) was pretty damned significant at 6.5... I would have thought Wiggins' would have been higher, though.
Wiggins wasn’t particularly aggressive except for a few games. Both were really solid defenders (especially for 1 and dones). McLemore was much more efficient (read: assertive) on offense.
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Old 02-25-2018, 08:11 PM   #2171
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Those losses at home to far inferior teams? Getting smoked at home by TT? Doke or Graham getting injured and missing time? No worries?
I was worried that Graham would have a game where he was in serious foul trouble early and/or fouled out. To play that many 40 minute games and have it be a non issue. Its not like he was taking it easy on the defensive end and you never quite know when, he goes hard to the basket that the ref might suddenly decide to call a charge.

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I wasn't worried. If you can't just sit back and enjoy what they do year in and year out without more than a little anxiety during big games, you're doing it wrong.

People here have been claiming the streak will break every year for like 5 years now.... I guess one year they'll actually be right.
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Top 40 players in win shares over the 14 year KU streak (actives bolded):

1. Mason: 19.2 WS (4 years)
2. Chalmers: 18.5 WS (3 years)
3. Ellis: 17.9 WS (4 years)
4. Graham: 17.1 WS (4 years)
5. Aldrich: 16.5 WS (3 years)
5. Collins: 16.5 WS (4 years)
7. Mc. Morris: 15.2 WS (3 years)
8. Taylor: 15.1 WS (4 years)
9. Rush: 14.9 WS (3 years)
10. Withey: 13.0 WS (4 years)
11. Releford: 12.8 WS (4 years)
12. Jackson: 11.9 WS (4 years)
13. Kaun: 11.8 WS (4 years)
14. Mk. Morris: 10.9 WS (3 years)
15. Wright: 10.8 WS (2 years)
16. Arthur: 10.6 WS (2 years)
16. Robinson: 10.6 WS (3 years)
18. Reed: 10.4 WS (4 years)
19. Johnson: 9.5 WS (4 years)
20. Morningstar: 9.4 WS (4 years)
21. Selden: 9.0 WS (3 years)
22. Mykhaliuk: 8.8 WS (4 years)
23. Lucas: 8.6 (4 years)
24. McLemore: 6.5 WS (1 year)
25. Young: 5.9 WS (2 years)
25. Traylor: 5.9 WS (4 years)
27. Simien: 5.7 WS (1 year)
27. Vick: 5.7 WS (3 years)
29. Henry: 4.9 WS (1 year)
29. Jackson: 4.9 WS (1 year)
29. Wiggins: 4.9 WS (1 year)
32. Tharpe: 4.7 WS (3 years)
32. Azubuike: 4.3 WS (2 years)
33. Greene: 4.2 WS (3 years)
34. Miles: 4.1 WS (1 year)
35. Embiid: 3.4 WS (1 year)
35. Oubre: 3.4 WS (1 year)
37. Newman: 3.2 WS (1 year)
38. Giles: 3.1 WS (1 year)
38. Little: 3.1 WS (2 years)
38. Teahan: 3.1 WS (4 years)

Any surprises? I do think this shows that Devonte is probably the most underrated KU player in a long time.
I would have thought Sherron would be #1 on this list. Very interesting.
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I would have thought Sherron would be #1 on this list. Very interesting.
Sherron, while I’m a total homer had a LOT of very bad possessions. He did an awful lot of good things but he thought he was capable of more than he was.
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