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02-17-2017, 09:07 AM | #2161 | |
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I'd look at his numbers until about mid-August (when he hit a wall), to see what his potential could be through an entire season. It's likely he adjusts and his patience starts turning into walks (as they did in the Royals system), as he was already seeing more pitches than anyone else on the offense. |
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02-17-2017, 09:08 AM | #2162 | |
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Cuthbert is intriguing if his bat is what it was through August. The KC Baseball Pro clue thinks he may have been injured sometime in late August (around the 20th) as KC had an off day, Cuthbert played the next day, and then was held out the day after... this timing corresponds with his numbers nose-diving from a very nice .290/.330/.450 line to his closing line. He also struggled with throws from 3B from that point. It's possible it also was just him hitting the rookie wall or being exposed offensively. If he could play neutral defense at 2B and produce that offensive line - .290/.340/.450 with 15-20 HR - that's a very plus bat at 2B and likely makes up for the defensive hit you take. If it doesn't work, I'm fine with going with Merrifield or Colon (who spent the offseason working out with Gordon, apparently). Merrifield's D and range would be a nice bonus, and I think he'd have a good chance to be a .275/.325/.375 bat - which would be around league average/replacement level for 2B - and plus defender. So... it's a question of whether Cuthbert can be a 2-2.5 oWAR/0- -0.5 dWAR guy or if Merrifield can provide the inverse of those numbers. Either way, I think KC can end up with roughly a 2-win situation at 2B, which would be nice. Sent from my iPhone using Tapatalk
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02-17-2017, 09:10 AM | #2163 | |
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He was .294/.341/.446 through August 22. Numbers nose-dived from there. Sent from my iPhone using Tapatalk
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02-17-2017, 09:14 AM | #2164 |
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Yes he did trail off a lot. Plus he had a month of top-end numbers at AAA.
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02-17-2017, 09:15 AM | #2165 |
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gotta agree with PB a bit ... Cuthbert doesn't impress me in any capacity. Don't understand the hype. He's OK.
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02-17-2017, 09:36 AM | #2166 |
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For most of the year Cuthbert had a great approach and hit a ton of line drives. He didn't have any huge holes in his swing (like Gordon on a slider down and in) and made some solid plays at third. He did make some weird errors on routine plays, usually throwing.
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02-17-2017, 10:08 AM | #2167 | |
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Pros: Professional ABs and approach League average walk rate as a rookie indicAtes potential for better Plus Arm for 3B (would be plus-plus at 2B) 45-50 power Cons: Slow (affects base running and range) Doesn't have natural loft in swing (raw power is 60-65, but plays down because swing is line-drive oriented) Small sample size I didn't see enough to trust him as the everyday DH, but I saw enough to be optimistic he could be a solid MLB regular with potential for better. Sent from my iPhone using Tapatalk
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02-17-2017, 10:20 AM | #2168 |
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You're right, I could have stated that better. GMDM provided the parts. Ned put them together.
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02-17-2017, 10:23 AM | #2169 | |
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I just watched a few videos of Chelsor hitting. It appears that his initial load/pinch is very good, but he still sometimes bars his arms, especially his left one creating that chopping wood technique that DJ referenced. When he keeps it up with his right arm down and in he drives the ball very well.
I haven't seen any video of him from the minors, but it's apparent that he has been working on "building a house," but reverts to the arm bar on occasion. I noticed the arm bar most frequently when he was fooled on inside pitches creating jam shots the other way. Those blue jays hitters have been so successful crowding the plate expecting the inside (to their position) pitch and keeping the left arm high and right arm down for a while now. Mantle is probably the best example of it, but Josh Donaldson has been killing with it as well.
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02-17-2017, 10:55 AM | #2171 |
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I hope I'm wrong about Cheslor ... I just never got the hype. It reminded me of '14 when some wanted Colon to take over at 3rd for a struggling Moose (at the plate).
The dude will make a nice play at 3rd and everyone will be like, "wow, look how good he is!" When the fact of the matter is, Moose is superior to Cheslor in every way ... and I cannot see for the life of me how he translates to being a 2nd baseman ... especially when this board hated Infante who was actually pretty good over at 2nd. It's going to drive people crazy if he plays 2nd base on a defensive level - I promise you that. |
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If he grew up with the chopping wood approach he is undergoing a Joey Bats type of swing change. He is now picking up his left foot/lowering his left shoulder loading up in a similar fashion. You have to have great balance and a quick bat to do it. Joey Bats appears to be too old to still do it, but Chelsor isn't...
You also have to keep your right elbow in and left arm high. It also helps to crowd the plate and guess inside as you either need to be constantly guessing inside or have exceptionally fast hands. I saw Chelsor several times in great position at contact and several times barring his arms (which won't work with this set up). Anybody (Duncan) know what his hitting style was in the minors? Hosmer also tries to get in that same position at impact, but he drops his hands a lot more looping his swing.
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It looks like he had an extreme arm bar here in the minors. It gets a little better below, in one of his youtube clips it looks really good. Here is what a really good one looks like, as much as we dislike him. Mantle might have been the best with it
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Ned can't set a lineup? Give him a lineup that' nearly even 1-8 so he can't screw it up (and even then he insisted on batting Esky at the top). Ned can't handle a bullpen? Fill it with cyborg arms that will get anyone out.
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