Demetrius Harris: Idiot

[Grim]

Felony possession of marijuana!?!?!??!

http://www.kmbc.com/article/kansas-c...ession/9106994

What an idiot.

[O.city]

Originally Posted by staylor26

Gotcha. Sorry for the misunderstanding. Good thing is, I don't think we'll need to count on that.

Hopefully not. They've been hit with the injury bug the last few years it seems at the most inconvenient times.

[DaneMcCloud]

Originally Posted by O.city

I wouldn't count on guys coming out of no where like that again, not really relevant to any of the current guys we have as we know what they are etc.

West can absolutely prove it but it seems the team isn't sure in that they drafted hunt and have west competing for the 3rd spot.

Well, considering that the running backs on the roster, outside of Hunt, are known quantities, I'd agree.

But West, even if he's the #3 behind Ware & Hunt, is still far more serviceable than any #3 the Chiefs have had since probably the days of Priest, Blaylock and LJ.

[saphojunkie]

Originally Posted by O.city

Eh, I dunno that he quite has the explosion he had a few years back. If he did, I'm in 100 percent agreement but we'llsee

Well, his explosion a few years back made him a top ten draft pick.

No, he doesn't have that explosion anymore, but I feel like pretending he somehow isn't in the upper echelon of speed at the RB position is a misconstruction.

[DaneMcCloud]

Spiller was drafted in 2010.

Since then, he's scored 12 TD's on the ground and 9 TD's through the air.

Those are pretty shitty numbers for a guy drafted Top Ten in 2010.

21 TD's in seven seasons. Blech.

[DJ's left nut]

Originally Posted by staylor26

Hunt is more talented than West and Ware.

We'll be fine.

Ware is a VERY talented back, IMO.

Speed, power and agility. His acceleration and ability to bounce plays is really underrated.

That said - he was a mess after his injury last year (wasn't it a concussion?). The 2015 version of him looked like a 1,400 yard, 4.5 YPC runningback to my eyes. He shocked the hell out of me. And for a few games to start last year he looked just as good. Then he got hurt and just fell apart.

I'm not convinced Hunt's a clearly more talented back. He might be - we shall see. His vision is very good and his running style is fairly unique. He might fit this team perfectly and be just funky enough to give teams fits (a poor man's Bell, so to speak). But I won't just concede that he's clearly more talented than Ware.

Ware's power/speed combination is pretty hard to find when he's running right.

[staylor26]

Originally Posted by DJ's left nut

Ware is a VERY talented back, IMO.

Speed, power and agility. His acceleration and ability to bounce plays is really underrated.

That said - he was a mess after his injury last year (wasn't it a concussion?). The 2015 version of him looked like a 1,400 yard, 4.5 YPC runningback to my eyes. He shocked the hell out of me. And for a few games to start last year he looked just as good. Then he got hurt and just fell apart.

I'm not convinced Hunt's a clearly more talented back. He might be - we shall see. His vision is very good and his running style is fairly unique. He might fit this team perfectly and be just funky enough to give teams fits (a poor man's Bell, so to speak). But I won't just concede that he's clearly more talented than Ware.

Ware's power/speed combination is pretty hard to find when he's running right.

As you already know, I was really high on Hunt, so I may be biased.

I know for sure that he's more capable of handling a full workload though. Ware has yet to show he can going back all the way to college. I just find it hard to believe he ever will at this point.

[DaneMcCloud]

Originally Posted by staylor26

Ware has yet to show he can going back all the way to college. I just find it hard to believe he ever will at this point.

Agreed.

The addition of Hunt and a healthy West *should* go a long way in keeping him healthy and fresh through January and hopefully, into February.

[Strongside]

Come on bro. It's been decriminalized in Jackson County.

[Grim]

Originally Posted by Strongside

Come on bro. It's been decriminalized in Jackson County.

Pretty sure it's just KC, not the county.

[Titty Meat]

Originally Posted by Grim

Pretty sure it's just KC, not the county.

It's also not decriminalized

[Chief Northman]

Originally Posted by DaneMcCloud

We saw his explosiveness last Friday night when he ripped off a 50 yard run and finished with 7 carries and 113 yards, a 16 yard average.

He's was hampered by a high ankle sprain in January 2016 and all throughout last season. He appears to be healthy now. He's fast (4.37), has some wiggle and plays well in space. He literally saved the Chiefs 2015 season.

He has the ability to contribute plenty this season, especially since Ware will inevitability break down while Hunt is a rookie.

There's no way I trust Spiller with 20+ touches per game.

JFC Dane.

You can use the same arguments you are fielding in favour of West for Spiller and vice-versa. West looked great against 4th stringers. He had just over a 1 yard per carry average the week before against 2's and 3's. He has been nicked up often enough early in his career. All I recall from last season is him looking to escape to the sidelines or get stuffed between the tackles. 2015 was great for him, but funny you won't give Spiller the same benefit in where he actually appears healthy for the first time in a while and has been solid this pre-season.

[ChiefGator]

I think for your third TE, you look at upside. And Escobar has had chances, and hasn't done much with it. They seem to have liked Ross Travis enough to keep him hanging on, but he hasn't had many chances.

He was also open on the Mahomes-Harris TD pass last game.

[DaneMcCloud]

Originally Posted by Chief Northman

JFC Dane.

You can use the same arguments you are fielding in favour of West for Spiller and vice-versa. West looked great against 4th stringers. He had just over a 1 yard per carry average the week before against 2's and 3's. He has been nicked up often enough early in his career. All I recall from last season is him looking to escape to the sidelines or get stuffed between the tackles. 2015 was great for him, but funny you won't give Spiller the same benefit in where he actually appears healthy for the first time in a while and has been solid this pre-season.

I won't give Spiller the "benefit of the doubt" because he hasn't been healthy since the 2013 season AND he's 30 years old.

West had a rough go of it for ONE YEAR and he's still a "young" 26.

In less than two full seasons, West has 5 rushing TD's and 3 receiving TD's.

Since being drafted in 2010, Spiller has 12 rushing TD's and 9 receiving TD's.

I don't get the love.

[DaneMcCloud]

Originally Posted by ChiefGator

I think for your third TE, you look at upside. And Escobar has had chances, and hasn't done much with it. They seem to have liked Ross Travis enough to keep him hanging on, but he hasn't had many chances.

He was also open on the Mahomes-Harris TD pass last game.

Travis is running with the 3's, which is why he hasn't had as many ops.

I haven't seen any improvement from him through two games. Hopefully, he steps up Friday.

[Red Dawg]

Originally Posted by DJ's left nut

Ware is a VERY talented back, IMO.

Speed, power and agility. His acceleration and ability to bounce plays is really underrated.

That said - he was a mess after his injury last year (wasn't it a concussion?). The 2015 version of him looked like a 1,400 yard, 4.5 YPC runningback to my eyes. He shocked the hell out of me. And for a few games to start last year he looked just as good. Then he got hurt and just fell apart.

I'm not convinced Hunt's a clearly more talented back. He might be - we shall see. His vision is very good and his running style is fairly unique. He might fit this team perfectly and be just funky enough to give teams fits (a poor man's Bell, so to speak). But I won't just concede that he's clearly more talented than Ware.

Ware's power/speed combination is pretty hard to find when he's running right.

Ware has no speed. Hunt doesn't either but he may be a tad quicker. Neither is a home run threat but they are serviceable. Spiller is quickest to get moving.