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Old 04-19-2016, 06:40 PM  
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Alright so, try to keep these as realistic as possible obviously, but let's talk about our preferred draft choices for the Chiefs come next Thursday and Friday evening at the draft. They have the 28th and 59th overall selections. Now, obviously guys like Carson Wentz and Jalen Ramsey are not going to be available at 28. Likewise, we won't see players like Corey Coleman or Eli Apple at 59.

For me, I feel like this team is just a piece or two away, so I want to see immediate impact players selected if at all possible. Thus, my dream 1st and 2nd round mock...

Round 1, Pick 28: Mackensie Alexander, CB Clemson
He's brash and confident, and the tape does not lie. It won't come without some growing pains, but Alexander has the ability to step in day one and give us a great potential lockdown corner across from Marcus Peters. You can never have enough corners. The Chiefs are already in need of corner depth, but in this scenario we add it to the top of the heap. Week 1 against SD, Peters, Alexander, and Phillip Gaines form a really solid starting CB group while Steven Nelson provides great depth.

Round 2, Pick 59: Shilique Calhoun, OLB Michigan State
Here's a guy who is boom or bust. This one comes down most to me trusting Conley's development more than Ford. However, he is one of very few edge rushers in this draft that is equipped to contribute as a pass rusher immediately in the NFL. Again, a position in which you can never have enough of, this pick makes a ton of sense. Justin Houston could miss some time this season. Tamba Hali is at a point in his career where the downfall could come abruptly and unexpectedly. Dee Ford, while he has flashed, cannot be fully counted on just yet. This pick could give the Chiefs the deepest, most talented group of pass rushers in the NFL.

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Old 04-20-2016, 09:45 AM   #196
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Old 04-20-2016, 09:46 AM   #197
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Also, why is Kalan Reed not getting much love?
If we don't go corner in the 1st, I think we take him in the 2nd.
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Old 04-20-2016, 09:47 AM   #198
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I'd take Ragland if he's there.
I'm more and more convinced that I hate you.

Why not give some love to Artie Burns or Shilique Calhoun while you're at it? Or Karl Joseph. Or insist on reaching for a pass-rusher so we can replace Justin Houston.
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Old 04-20-2016, 09:48 AM   #199
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Also, why is Kalan Reed not getting much love?
I love Kalan Reed

Seriously. I think that after Apple and WJIII he might be the best CB. Amazing speed, elite vertical, shut out Amari Cooper in press man.
I want him on this team.
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Old 04-20-2016, 09:50 AM   #200
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I'm more and more convinced that I hate you.

Why not give some love to Artie Burns or Shilique Calhoun while you're at it? Or Karl Joseph. Or insist on reaching for a pass-rusher so we can replace Justin Houston.
I went to bat for Vonn bell last night. It's in here somewhere I think.

I'm basically against or for anyone
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Old 04-20-2016, 09:56 AM   #201
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I went to bat for Vonn bell last night. It's in here somewhere I think.

I'm basically against or for anyone
You're such a condescending asshole.
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Old 04-20-2016, 10:10 AM   #202
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This board is always so fascinated with trading down to get a bunch of late round picks (half of whom bust entirely with the remainder being JAGS).

Go get your guy. This is a team on the cusp of a championship and 3 'meh' players won't do nearly as much as one ideal fit. Go get that ideal fit.
It's because most people casually follow the draft and think "The more draft picks the better!", which is rarely the case.

Hell, I remember people advocating the Chiefs "Take a QB in each round of the draft! They'll find a Franchise guy for sure!", which is unbelievably naive and ridiculous.

The bottom line is, which can be proven time and time again, that teams that trade up to get their player have more success than the teams on the receiving end of all of those picks.

The Chiefs are projected to receive as many as four comp picks next year, from rounds 3-7. If their guy is sitting at 24, I'd have absolutely no problem throwing in a 3rd rounder next year in order to get their guy, whether it's Apple or WJIII or whomever.

Go get the talent.
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Old 04-20-2016, 10:17 AM   #203
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No way.

They're not blowing their first round pick on a DT when they're loaded at the position.

Spending a 1st rounder on a rotational player is a terrible waste of resources, especially with the hole at CB and ILB, not to mention #2 WR.

It's not like Dorsey to be locked into a player this early, anyway.
Dorsey has drafted to replace existing talent that out prices themselves out of town, or is getting old...and he does it a year ahead of time.

Albert
Hali
Sean Smith

If they can draft a guy like Butler that can provide impact at DE and they also have Howard that can play anywhere on the DL...I can see them moving on from Poe. Not sure they will be able to afford to meet his demands.
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Old 04-20-2016, 10:26 AM   #204
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Dorsey has drafted to replace existing talent that out prices themselves out of town, or is getting old...and he does it a year ahead of time.

Albert
Hali
Sean Smith

If they can draft a guy like Butler that can provide impact at DE and they also have Howard that can play anywhere on the DL...I can see them moving on from Poe. Not sure they will be able to afford to meet his demands.
Which is exactly why they need to move up if they're in danger of not getting Apple or WJIII.

Poe's a talented guy but there will be plenty of options in the second and fourth rounds to get another DT/DE.
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Which is exactly why they need to move up if they're in danger of not getting Apple or WJIII.

Poe's a talented guy but there will be plenty of options in the second and fourth rounds to get another DT/DE.
Agreed.
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Old 04-20-2016, 10:43 AM   #206
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If it comes down to Fisher vs. Poe.... Think they'll definitely go Fisher. Considering position value and injuries. This regime also drafted him.

But f**k I don't want to lose either. Poe is a game changer.
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Currently sitting with about 25 million in cap space for 2017 and only have 3 major FA priorities set to hit the market.

Fisher getting a 5th year option would increase his cap number by 4 million.

Berry's hit would probably be around 6-8 (depending on this year)

Poe could be franchised or extended with the money leftover.

Also, money could easily be opened up with some cuts next offseason. Maybe not so bleak after all for our financial situation next year.
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If we do happen to select a DL, and Sutton uses the 4 main guys effectively, that could be a pretty amazing thing....

I'm thinking about a rotation every series for sub packages... Occasionally it's Poe and Bailey. Then you throw in Butler and Howard. Poe and Butler. Bailey and Howard. The list goes on and on.

Those guys would be so fresh and actually more effective IMO. Big strong guys like that could be twice as disruptive if they have half a tank left in the 4th quarter.
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Can't imagine they let fisher go, need to get a contract lined up with him
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