Football Cleveland Browns to cut Johnny Manziel - Page 14

**Bowser** · 12:05 PM

To the surprise of nobody not named Hog Farmer...

The Cleveland Browns will move on from Johnny Manziel just two seasons after they drafted him in the first round.

NFL Media Insider Ian Rapoport reported Tuesday the team will cut Manziel when the new league year starts March 9.

Browns executive vice president of football operations Sashi Brown released a statement Tuesday regarding Manziel's most recent off-field incident.

"We've been clear about expectations for our players on and off the field," Brown said. "Johnny's continual involvement in incidents that run counter to those expectations undermines the hard work of his teammates and the reputation of our organization. His status with our team will be addressed when permitted by league rules. We will have no further comment at this time."

Per league rules, the Browns cannot cut Manziel until next week at the earliest. Rapoport reported the Browns have $20 million in cap space for 2015, which the carried over to 2016, like all but three teams did. Because Manziel has guarantees in his contract, they need space to absorb the cap hit in 2015. Currently, they have no space, which is why they will wait for the league year to start.

Rapoport previously reported that when new coach Hue Jackson took over the team, Manziel's fate was sealed.

Browns' statement makes that eventuality clearer.

Manziel is being investigated for an alleged incident with a 23-year-old female, the Fort Worth Police Department said in a statement on Saturday. The alleged incident occurred late last Friday evening at an apartment complex in Fort Worth.

According to the statement, officers responded to a report of a possible assault and made contact with the 23-year-old female, who was unrelated to the caller. The complainant stated that she was involved in a disturbance with Manziel, her ex-boyfriend, earlier in the evening in Dallas. The officers were unable to locate a crime scene within the Fort Worth jurisdiction

After the complaintant advised the Fort Worth P.D. officers of concerns that she had regarding Manziel's well-being, they attempted to locate him by calling his cell phone, checking locations in the area and searching the area with the assistance of an Air One Unit. Following the search, it was determined that Manziel was safe and in no danger.

The Fort Worth Police Department is still actively working with the Dallas Police Department to determine if a criminal offense occurred.

An NFL spokesman added, "We are aware and looking into it."

This marks the latest of several incidents involving Manziel as a member of the Browns. The team announced last month that it had fined the second-year quarterback for missing a scheduled medical treatment on the final Sunday of the season.

Manziel was also benched ahead of a Week 12 matchup with the Ravens after a video surfaced of the quarterback partying at a club in Austin. A week prior to that, Manziel was cleared of any wrongdoing in a domestic violence incident. During the 2015 offseason, the quarterback spent 10 weeks in the offseason in a Pennsylvania rehab facility specializing in alcohol and substance abuse.

**mikeyis4dcats.** · 02-06-2016, 12:38 PM

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Originally Posted by Hog Farmer

I think it's all being blown out of proportion. So far Sean Smith has been in more trouble than manziel. Did he change going from college to pro. Probably not. Don't remember him having any issues in college. Let the boy play and when he's not playing let the boy party. He has God given talent. Just give him the ball and leave him the **** alone.

Iirc there was a little publicized incident with him and some other guys in an alley. Racial overtones, assault.

Hog's Gone Fishin · 02-06-2016, 12:52 PM

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Originally Posted by PAChiefsGuy

Normally I would agree with you but when his Dad says “I truly believe if they can’t get him help, he won’t live to see his 24th birthday,” and then you hear reports about him hitting his gf and threatening to kill her and himself.. That's not normal 24-year-old party boy behavior...

Aww Hell, Johnny's just trying to enjoy life a little. His dad is probably one of those really strict parents that has never enjoyed anything in life. A prude. You know the type that finds an empty beer can in the back of the truck and calls the rehab facility. And who's to say his girlfriend isn't a bitch.

TLO · 02-06-2016, 12:55 PM

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Originally Posted by loochy

is that the guy from man vs food?

I think it's the guy from Angels in the Outfield.

"GO BACK TO CINCINNATI!"

TLO · 02-06-2016, 01:13 PM

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Originally Posted by RealSNR

Because all high-profile professional athletes at the age of 24 and younger suffer from substance abuse! Clearly!

PAChiefsGuy · 02-06-2016, 01:21 PM

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Originally Posted by Hog Farmer

Aww Hell, Johnny's just trying to enjoy life a little. His dad is probably one of those really strict parents that has never enjoyed anything in life. A prude. You know the type that finds an empty beer can in the back of the truck and calls the rehab facility. And who's to say his girlfriend isn't a bitch.

Okay so lets assume everything you say is true which is probably stretching it.. Explain him going to rehab then.. I know plenty of people who get sh*tfaced every weekend. None of them have been to rehab. They've gotten DUIs, done stupid things, normal drinking consequences...

Now the guys doing hard drugs and drinking every day, they've been to rehab.

Hog's Gone Fishin · 02-06-2016, 03:32 PM

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Originally Posted by PAChiefsGuy

Okay so lets assume everything you say is true which is probably stretching it.. Explain him going to rehab then.. I know plenty of people who get sh*tfaced every weekend. None of them have been to rehab. They've gotten DUIs, done stupid things, normal drinking consequences...

Now the guys doing hard drugs and drinking every day, they've been to rehab.

He only went to rehab to satisfy the Browns ****ed up management. The same management that has ruined the last 17 QBs they drafted. and Johnny knows that. I think he just wants out of Cleveland.

Mr. Laz · 02-06-2016, 04:16 PM

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Originally Posted by Hog Farmer

He only went to rehab to satisfy the Browns ****ed up management. The same management that has ruined the last 17 QBs they drafted. and Johnny knows that. I think he just wants out of Cleveland.

Which is what i originally thought until this latest round of issues. His agent dropped him, his father publicly spoke out.

A bunch of stuff that is far beyond what is needed to get out of Cleveland.

All he had to do was wait until the salary cap stuff worked itself out for cleveland to cut him.

jspchief · 02-06-2016, 04:36 PM

Lol his dad thinks the league needs to help him? No wonder the kid is a clueless douche, apple doesn't fall far from the tree.

**Mav** · 02-07-2016, 03:39 AM

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Originally Posted by Hog Farmer

He only went to rehab to satisfy the Browns ****ed up management. The same management that has ruined the last 17 QBs they drafted. and Johnny knows that. I think he just wants out of Cleveland.

Uhhhh. You know what. Never mind.

milkman · 02-07-2016, 07:18 AM

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Originally Posted by jspchief

Lol his dad thinks the league needs to help him? No wonder the kid is a clueless douche, apple doesn't fall far from the tree.

It seems his dad has tried to help, checking him into rehab, only to see him walk away.

Manziel is an adult, so there's little that his father can do.

He's appealing to the one entity that might actually be able to intercede effectively.

PAChiefsGuy · 02-07-2016, 09:16 AM

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Originally Posted by Hog Farmer

He only went to rehab to satisfy the Browns ****ed up management. The same management that has ruined the last 17 QBs they drafted. and Johnny knows that. I think he just wants out of Cleveland.

What you just posted doesn't make any sense. He went to rehab to satisfy Browns management yet he wants out of Cleveland.. Right...

Al Bundy · 02-07-2016, 09:21 AM

@JManziel2
it's time 2 refocus
all of your energy
on health & Football!
it's never 2 late
2 get a fresh start!
© pic.twitter.com/cnbzekJYlv
— Charlie Sheen (@charliesheen) February 6, 2016

When Charlie Sheen calls you out...

**BossChief** · 02-07-2016, 09:34 AM

I wonder if Andy Reid could get the kid focused and on point...

His vision, instincts, playmaking ability, elusiveness and attacking mentality are of the highest level and those are uncoachable traits you look for in QBs.

Maybe Andy could get him focused off the field and make something out of the kid.

He had Vick playing MVP quality ball.

**gblowfish** · 02-07-2016, 09:37 AM

Has Johnny tried Purple Drank yet? It worked wonders for Jamarcus Russell's career....

**BossChief** · 02-07-2016, 09:46 AM

Give him a deal like this

Yr1 league min
Yr2 league min
Yr3 10m
Yr4 20m
Yr5 20m

0 guaranteed
0 signing bonus

"You **** up, we cut you...you put in the work we will pay you as elite" type of deal.

02-02-2016, 11:56 AM
Bowser sorta mod-ish Join Date: Jan 2004 Location: KC North Casino cash: $3171616	Cleveland Browns to cut Johnny Manziel To the surprise of nobody not named Hog Farmer... The Cleveland Browns will move on from Johnny Manziel just two seasons after they drafted him in the first round. NFL Media Insider Ian Rapoport reported Tuesday the team will cut Manziel when the new league year starts March 9. Browns executive vice president of football operations Sashi Brown released a statement Tuesday regarding Manziel's most recent off-field incident. "We've been clear about expectations for our players on and off the field," Brown said. "Johnny's continual involvement in incidents that run counter to those expectations undermines the hard work of his teammates and the reputation of our organization. His status with our team will be addressed when permitted by league rules. We will have no further comment at this time." Per league rules, the Browns cannot cut Manziel until next week at the earliest. Rapoport reported the Browns have $20 million in cap space for 2015, which the carried over to 2016, like all but three teams did. Because Manziel has guarantees in his contract, they need space to absorb the cap hit in 2015. Currently, they have no space, which is why they will wait for the league year to start. Rapoport previously reported that when new coach Hue Jackson took over the team, Manziel's fate was sealed. Browns' statement makes that eventuality clearer. Manziel is being investigated for an alleged incident with a 23-year-old female, the Fort Worth Police Department said in a statement on Saturday. The alleged incident occurred late last Friday evening at an apartment complex in Fort Worth. According to the statement, officers responded to a report of a possible assault and made contact with the 23-year-old female, who was unrelated to the caller. The complainant stated that she was involved in a disturbance with Manziel, her ex-boyfriend, earlier in the evening in Dallas. The officers were unable to locate a crime scene within the Fort Worth jurisdiction After the complaintant advised the Fort Worth P.D. officers of concerns that she had regarding Manziel's well-being, they attempted to locate him by calling his cell phone, checking locations in the area and searching the area with the assistance of an Air One Unit. Following the search, it was determined that Manziel was safe and in no danger. The Fort Worth Police Department is still actively working with the Dallas Police Department to determine if a criminal offense occurred. An NFL spokesman added, "We are aware and looking into it." This marks the latest of several incidents involving Manziel as a member of the Browns. The team announced last month that it had fined the second-year quarterback for missing a scheduled medical treatment on the final Sunday of the season. Manziel was also benched ahead of a Week 12 matchup with the Ravens after a video surfaced of the quarterback partying at a club in Austin. A week prior to that, Manziel was cleared of any wrongdoing in a domestic violence incident. During the 2015 offseason, the quarterback spent 10 weeks in the offseason in a Pennsylvania rehab facility specializing in alcohol and substance abuse. Last edited by Bowser; 02-02-2016 at 12:05 PM..
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BossChief SuperBowl or bust Join Date: Dec 2008 Location: BF Iowa Casino cash: $1594088	I wonder if Andy Reid could get the kid focused and on point... His vision, instincts, playmaking ability, elusiveness and attacking mentality are of the highest level and those are uncoachable traits you look for in QBs. Maybe Andy could get him focused off the field and make something out of the kid. He had Vick playing MVP quality ball. __________________ Dreams do come true... http://www.chiefsplanet.com/BB/showp...postcount=1407
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02-07-2016, 09:46 AM	#210
BossChief SuperBowl or bust Join Date: Dec 2008 Location: BF Iowa Casino cash: $1594088	Give him a deal like this Yr1 league min Yr2 league min Yr3 10m Yr4 20m Yr5 20m 0 guaranteed 0 signing bonus "You **** up, we cut you...you put in the work we will pay you as elite" type of deal. __________________ Dreams do come true... http://www.chiefsplanet.com/BB/showp...postcount=1407
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