Chiefs The Clarks Love Money More than Vets - Page 14

**gblowfish** · 05-08-2015, 08:30 AM

Apologies if posted before, and maybe this ought to be in the DC section.

Washington Post reports that the Federal Military has paid millions to the NFL to "salute" veterans. The Clarks took $250,000. So much for the NFL saluting soldiers out of the goodness of their hearts.

The Chiefs don't need the money. They should send that cash back to the military to buy body armor for active service guys, so we wouldn't have so many "wounded warriors" to salute. This whole thing makes me more cynical than I already am, if that's even possible.

Just salute veterans because its the right thing to do, and pick up the goddamn check. They put their lives on the line for us, it's the least a tax-exempt, multi-billion dollar enterprise like the NFL can do.

I didn't get a harrrump outta that guy......

http://www.washingtonpost.com/blogs/...rss=rss_sports

During timeouts at home games, the New York Jets air a Hometown Heroes segment in which a U.S. soldier or two are shown on the Jumbotron and everyone thanks them for their service. The soldiers and three friends get seats in the Coaches Club. It’s a nice salute.

It’s also funded by U.S. taxpayers.

According to Christopher Baxter and Jonathan D. Salant of New Jersey Advance Media, the Department of Defense paid 14 NFL teams $5.4 million from 2011 to 2014 for salutes like the Hometown Heroes segment and other advertising at professional football games. All but $100,000 of that money came from the National Guard.

U.S. Sen. Jeff Flake (R-Ariz.) called the spending wasteful and disingenuous, Baxter and Salant report:

“Those of us go to sporting events and see them honoring the heroes,” Flake said in an interview. “You get a good feeling in your heart. Then to find out they’re doing it because they’re compensated for it, it leaves you underwhelmed. It seems a little unseemly.” …

“They realize the public believes they’re doing it as a public service or a sense of patriotism,” Flake said. “It leaves a bad taste in your mouth.”

Flake added that he has no problem with the National Guard spending money on recruitment advertising at football games. “The problem, he said, was spending taxpayer money on a program that, on its face, appeared to be a generous gesture by a football team,” Baxter and Salant write.

The story goes on to detail what the National Guard gets in return for its spending:

Aside from the Hometown Heroes segment, the agreements also included advertising and marketing services, including a kickoff video message from the Guard, digital advertising on stadium screens, online advertising and meeting space for a meeting or events.

Also, soldiers attended the annual kickoff lunch in New York City to meet and take pictures with the players for promotional use, and the Jets allowed soldiers to participate in a charity event in which coaches and players build or rebuild a playground or park.

The Jets also provided game access passes.

A National Guard spokesman said the agreement with the Jets helps promote and increase “the public’s understanding and appreciation of military service in the New Jersey Army National Guard increases the propensity for service in our ranks and garners public support for our Hometown Team.” A Jets spokesman says the team works with the National Guard just as it works with any other sponsor to tailor in-game advertising.

According to the report, the Colts and Ravens are among the other teams that have similar agreements with the National Guard.

ThaVirus · 05-12-2015, 06:29 PM

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Originally Posted by stevieray

..people of color have been kicking ass since the Revolutionary War. If you are ignorant of that, do some research.

Blacks have fought in every major American war and, in certain places, couldn't even vote up until about 1964 depending on when your city or state decided to act right.

**Bugeater** · 05-12-2015, 06:30 PM

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Originally Posted by -King-

Dude, black people were subjected to slavery and Jim crow laws for only 450 years. They should have got over it by now. I mean 40-50 years should be more than enough time yo recover from that. And plus racism doesn't exist in today's world.
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How long do you need? Are our grandchildren going to be arguing whether 100 years enough time to recover?

Oh, and racism does and always will exist, and it goes in all directions. So get the **** over yourself.

ThaVirus · 05-12-2015, 06:37 PM

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Originally Posted by crazycoffey

Did not realize you and virus were 400 years old. Yes I'm sure that has been a hard life. But we are, as a society, so much improved. What do you have to get over? And the term used was disenfranchised. Taking all rights away from a race, that most certainly does not describe anything any race is experiencing in America in our lifespan. If you think here's a racial problem that is taking away any of your rights, might I suggest you fix your own attitude first.

When I made my initial posts, I was talking specifically about the time before the Civil Rights Movement. I knew we wouldn't agree that blacks still deal with institutional racism so I went for the low hanging fruit. I didn't think you'd argue that they weren't prior to 1964 or thereabouts. I even specified that when I quoted you. I said "blacks WERE disenfranchised". Either way, blacks have still dealt with disenfranchisement (as per the multiple dictionary definitions) since the Civil Rights Act of 1964.

ThaVirus · 05-12-2015, 06:38 PM

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Originally Posted by TimBone

Just earlier in this thread you were not concerned with things that happened prior to your lifetime.

?

That was in reference to my initial post claiming no soldier in my lifetime has fought for my freedom.

ThaVirus · 05-12-2015, 06:50 PM

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Originally Posted by Baby Lee

Got a general idea how much more sulking time you need?

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Originally Posted by Baconeater

How long do you need? Are our grandchildren going to be arguing whether 100 years enough time to recover? .

These are examples of offshoots to the "OMG that was so long ago get over it" declarations I mentioned earlier.

50 years, people. Not that long ago.

I have a lot to say about this so I'll post it here soon when I get off work.

**Baby Lee** · 05-12-2015, 06:51 PM

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Originally Posted by ThaVirus

These are examples of offshoots to the "OMG that was so long ago get over it" declarations I mentioned earlier.

50 years, people. Not that long ago.

I have a lot to say about this so I'll post it here soon when I get off work.

Hot taek --> bated breath!!

**Rausch** · 05-12-2015, 07:18 PM

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Originally Posted by Baconeater

How long do you need? Are our grandchildren going to be arguing whether 100 years enough time to recover?

Oh, and racism does and always will exist, and it goes in all directions. So get the **** over yourself.

I'm a fat white German, so what do I know, but ask a Jew if 50 years is enough.

60?

70?

The ****ing holocaust was years ago. I mean, why still talk about it?

For most of us true evil is a lifetime or more away. For others, they just left.

What most of modern black America doesn't understand is that most of modern white America isn't racist. They've grown up with black role models (Jordan, Ali, Bo Jackson, Barry Saunders, Rice, R. White) in sports and too many people to mention in music. Our current political leaders are seeing diversity in areas many alive now probably never thought they'd see. The popular face of physics is now a black man.

PHYSICS for ****'s sake - not some cultural trending flake of the moment. A man who helps describe the makings of the scientific universe.

Black families have grown up for generations being told it will never be equal. Granfathers, fathers, and now this generation finally starts to see it happen.

Yes, there will always be a Bruce Levenson or Donald Sterling happy to keep the old hate alive and **** $3it up for the rest of us.

And as long as there is there will always be that instinctive part of black America saying "I told you so!"

Black America needs to stop thinking one man represents the majority and white America needs to realize that hate is always present and always a danger and always closer than you think...

stevieray · 05-12-2015, 07:18 PM

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Originally Posted by ThaVirus

These are examples of offshoots to the "OMG that was so long ago get over it" declarations I mentioned earlier.

50 years, people. Not that long ago.

I have a lot to say about this so I'll post it here soon when I get off work.

Wentworth Cheswell, 200 years ago.

stevieray · 05-12-2015, 07:22 PM

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Originally Posted by ThaVirus

?

That was in reference to my initial post claiming no soldier in my lifetime has fought for my freedom.

Enemies, DOMESTIC and foreign.

Their presence alone, and willingnees to fight , guarantees your freedom.

**notorious** · 05-12-2015, 07:23 PM

You are going to draw the DC assholes into this thread, assholes.

**Baby Lee** · 05-12-2015, 07:24 PM

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Originally Posted by notorious

You are going to draw the DC assholes into this thread, assholes.

Going to?

If the DC reeruns aren't here already, then maybe there's hope of salvaging this.

Few DC threads are as full of reerun as this one.

**notorious** · 05-12-2015, 07:25 PM

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Originally Posted by Baby Lee

Going to?

Few DC threads are as full of reerun as this one.

Didn't read, just saw the last few posts about slavery and some other shit.

Marcellus · 05-12-2015, 07:28 PM

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Originally Posted by gblowfish

Someone from the Chiefs called me today, to respond to an email I sent them over the weekend asking about this whole money for saluting vets question. She told me to read Terez Paylor's KC Star posting about the subject, and said the Chiefs were adamant that they did not get paid to salute vets. The story is below:

The Chiefs are among 14 NFL teams who received a share of millions in taxpayer money from the U.S. Department of Defense for military advertising during 2011-14, according to federal contract records.

In 2011, the Chiefs were paid $125,000 for an agreement with the Missouri National Guard, which received advertising on the team’s website, recruiting booths at Arrowhead Stadium and sponsorship for a Dec. 18 game against the Green Bay Packers.

The New York Jets also received money from the National Guard in exchange for advertising, as well as an on-screen tribute to soldiers called “Hometown Heroes,” an arrangement that was criticized by U.S. Sen. Jeff Flake, an Arizona Republican. The Department of Defense and New Jersey Guard paid the Jets $377,000 from 2011-14 for the salutes and other advertising, according to NJ.com.

Arizona’s other U.S. Senator, Republican John McCain, released a report on government waste last week that questioned why the National Guard spent $49.1 million for professional sports sponsorships in 2014, including deals with teams such as the Jets that looked like a military tribute but were advertisements.

The Chiefs, however, said in a statement that their agreement with the Missouri National Guard was about advertising and not tributes to service members. A request for comment from the Guard was not returned.

“The Kansas City Chiefs had a partnership with the Missouri National Guard in 2011,” the team’s statement said. “The agreement was for one year and was strictly for promotional and advertising elements.”

The National Guard paid NFL teams $5.6 million in 2013 and 2014, according to the Los Angeles Times, and this year it is paying $4.1 million for sporting event advertising, including $1.2 million to NFL teams. The Chiefs’ agreement with the Missouri Guard was only for 2011.

The Chiefs’ game-day sponsorships, according to the team, can include digital, web and video-board advertising. These companies can request an on-field component, but the Chiefs say they do not charge their partners for that.

During the Chiefs game vs. Green Bay in 2011, the National Guard presented its high school football coach of the year awards to Blue Valley’s Eric Driskell and Pembroke Hill’s Sam Knopik on the field.

That ceremony and the guard’s sponsorship of the game was unrelated to the Chiefs’ own efforts to recognize the military.

“None of those elements were related to our annual Military Appreciation Day. The Chiefs have and will proudly continue to show our support for all branches of the armed forces through a number of different initiatives,” the team’s statement said.

The Chiefs’ Military Appreciation Day, held during a November home game, features a pregame celebration with more than 100 individuals representing all branches of the military, who hold a field-sized American flag during the National Anthem.

The Chiefs held five military outreach events last year and two this year. One was a visit to the airmen and airwomen at Whiteman Air Force Base last November by general manager John Dorsey and Chiefs legends Bobby Bell, Len Dawson and Will Shields during the NFL’s “Salute to Service” month.

Most recently, the Chiefs’ tight ends visited Douglas MacArthur Middle School in Leavenworth on April 21 as part of the NFL’s “Play 60” campaign and signed autographs for Fort Leavenworth soldiers and their families.

Major League Baseball is contacting its teams about relationships with the military, Pat Courtney, chief communications officer for MLB, told the Los Angeles Times. A search of a government database that contained the Guard’s contracts with pro sports teams revealed no such arrangements with the Royals during 2011-15.

“So far we have not found any club who is receiving payments from the armed forces in exchange for an in-game military salute,” he said.

Star news services contributed to this report

To reach Terez A. Paylor, call 816-234-4489 or send email to tpaylor@kcstar.com. Follow him on Twitter: @TerezPaylor.

Read more here: http://www.kansascity.com/sports/nfl...#storylink=cpy

Thanks George this is good info, glad to hear it.

**Rausch** · 05-12-2015, 07:28 PM

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Originally Posted by stevieray

Wentworth Cheswell, 200 years ago.

This sounds like forever until you hit 50.

And at 50 you suddenly realize...$3it...I'm old enough to remember a lot of $#it that's old and done now and how much has changed.

Then you realize how short 50 is and how 200 years is only about 5 lifetimes.

Once you realize how short 50 is you start to realize how short 200 is.

If you're white you're proud of how far we've come.

If you're black you don't trust it...

**Rausch** · 05-12-2015, 07:30 PM

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Originally Posted by notorious

You are going to draw the DC assholes into this thread, assholes.

I didn't make it a race thread - you a$$#oles did...

05-08-2015, 08:30 AM
gblowfish Be Kind To Your Pets Join Date: Jun 2002 Location: Glorious Independence, MO Casino cash: $17596178 VARSITY	The Clarks Love Money More than Vets Apologies if posted before, and maybe this ought to be in the DC section. Washington Post reports that the Federal Military has paid millions to the NFL to "salute" veterans. The Clarks took $250,000. So much for the NFL saluting soldiers out of the goodness of their hearts. The Chiefs don't need the money. They should send that cash back to the military to buy body armor for active service guys, so we wouldn't have so many "wounded warriors" to salute. This whole thing makes me more cynical than I already am, if that's even possible. Just salute veterans because its the right thing to do, and pick up the goddamn check. They put their lives on the line for us, it's the least a tax-exempt, multi-billion dollar enterprise like the NFL can do. I didn't get a harrrump outta that guy...... http://www.washingtonpost.com/blogs/...rss=rss_sports During timeouts at home games, the New York Jets air a Hometown Heroes segment in which a U.S. soldier or two are shown on the Jumbotron and everyone thanks them for their service. The soldiers and three friends get seats in the Coaches Club. It’s a nice salute. It’s also funded by U.S. taxpayers. According to Christopher Baxter and Jonathan D. Salant of New Jersey Advance Media, the Department of Defense paid 14 NFL teams $5.4 million from 2011 to 2014 for salutes like the Hometown Heroes segment and other advertising at professional football games. All but $100,000 of that money came from the National Guard. U.S. Sen. Jeff Flake (R-Ariz.) called the spending wasteful and disingenuous, Baxter and Salant report: “Those of us go to sporting events and see them honoring the heroes,” Flake said in an interview. “You get a good feeling in your heart. Then to find out they’re doing it because they’re compensated for it, it leaves you underwhelmed. It seems a little unseemly.” … “They realize the public believes they’re doing it as a public service or a sense of patriotism,” Flake said. “It leaves a bad taste in your mouth.” Flake added that he has no problem with the National Guard spending money on recruitment advertising at football games. “The problem, he said, was spending taxpayer money on a program that, on its face, appeared to be a generous gesture by a football team,” Baxter and Salant write. The story goes on to detail what the National Guard gets in return for its spending: Aside from the Hometown Heroes segment, the agreements also included advertising and marketing services, including a kickoff video message from the Guard, digital advertising on stadium screens, online advertising and meeting space for a meeting or events. Also, soldiers attended the annual kickoff lunch in New York City to meet and take pictures with the players for promotional use, and the Jets allowed soldiers to participate in a charity event in which coaches and players build or rebuild a playground or park. The Jets also provided game access passes. A National Guard spokesman said the agreement with the Jets helps promote and increase “the public’s understanding and appreciation of military service in the New Jersey Army National Guard increases the propensity for service in our ranks and garners public support for our Hometown Team.” A Jets spokesman says the team works with the National Guard just as it works with any other sponsor to tailor in-game advertising. According to the report, the Colts and Ravens are among the other teams that have similar agreements with the National Guard.
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