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02-08-2014, 04:30 PM | #196 | |
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02-08-2014, 04:31 PM | #197 | |
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I hold out hope that he can develop, but this pick to this point looks to be about equal with the Robert Gallery pick (sorry htishawkeye). Maybe not even that good. |
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02-08-2014, 04:33 PM | #198 |
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Dorsey also came out and said the #1 pick was down to three players, they scouted three heavily. So Fisher was never consensus, like say Pioli was the consensus on reaching for Tyson Jackson.
Fisher was picked for his untapped potential, his size and his comparisons to Joe Staley who came from the same school. He could end up good but the fact that he didn't show really any flashes, was hurt, then got benched for a 3rd round pick is caused for concern. Even the other raw developmental picks like TJax and Poe were never even benched in their first years, and in Poes case he at least SHOWED flashes his first season, where you could watch the games and say "ya know, with a real coach this kid is going to be good." Have you honestly seen that from Fisher in his first year? If you can say yes with a straight face, I'd be glad to hear it. But the facts are, Stephenson came in, Schwartz came in for Asamoah and the offense got better. The passing game was better, Alex Smith wasn't being smashed by guys coming off the edge clean as much, the running game was 100x better, and the offense took off the 2nd half the season. The facts are there whether you like it or not. |
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02-08-2014, 04:34 PM | #199 | |
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This year, he has a full offseason to learn. He will benefit from a full strength program which he badly needs. He will hopefully be 100% for the first time in his NFL career. He will hopefully return to his natural position at Left Tackle which he is much better suited to play than Right Tackle. And he will be a year smarter and more experienced. I don't believe in just giving him the starting job. But we haven't come close to seeing what he's capable of. |
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02-08-2014, 04:36 PM | #200 | |
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02-08-2014, 04:42 PM | #201 |
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All of the ****ing anger and name calling, typical Planet.
Trying to say what Fisher is or isn't going to be is pointless right now... there is no good reason to not be atleast a little optimistic about the guy right now. He DID have his moments, he let Von Miller do exactly jack and squat among others, not bad for a rookie... if - after an offseason in the weight room and just the simple fact that things slow down dramatically for most guys in their second year - he doesn't improve... then yes, let the bust labels begin. But jumping down someones throat for thinking things aren't ALL BAD with the guy is BOGUS... if he's getting bull rushed and jacking up his shoulder every other game next year that's one thing, but right now, proclaiming AWFUL is just trying to make oneself feel superior, IMO. |
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02-08-2014, 04:44 PM | #202 | |
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And stop with this BS that this offense looked great without him, and terrible with him. Alex Smith was the biggest reason for the turnaround, not Fisher. Fisher played very solid against Buffalo, but Smith shit the bed. Stephenson was the main guy who got exposed against Indy in the regular season. And Fisher played very well against Von Miller and Orakpo. He went from being a complete liability in the first half of the season, to playing at least well enough that you didn't notice him. That's not what you want from your 1.1, but it's not nearly as bad as his critics want to make him out to be. |
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02-08-2014, 04:45 PM | #203 |
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Saying Fisher didn't have any "flashes" is yet more crap.
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02-08-2014, 05:05 PM | #204 |
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A top overall pick offensive tackle shouldn't have "flashes". He should dominate from the jump. I don't seem to recall Jake Long, Joe Staley, or Joe Thomas coming in and just showing "flashes".
I want Fisher to be the real deal, I really do. After his first year, I have my doubts about him being that rock at left tackle for us for the next 5+ years. Hopefully he gets healthy, packs on some muscle weight this offseason, and actually becomes a left tackle somehow. |
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This reminds me of the ra ra speeches supporters of Tyson Jackson gave: "Hey, he might not be good, but at least he isn't the worst!" The only exception is he just might be the worst. |
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02-08-2014, 05:15 PM | #207 |
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you're right. It's us having to lower our standards for OUR NUMBER ONE OVERALL PICK. Pat him on the back when he "shows flashes" like he is a late first round pick or a mid round pick. We treat our first overall pick like a 3rd round pick.
Fisher sandwiched between Andrew Luck and whatever QB will be taken first this year. Chiefs way. |
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02-08-2014, 05:17 PM | #208 |
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02-08-2014, 05:20 PM | #209 | |
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02-08-2014, 05:21 PM | #210 | |
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Jackson is a million times better than he was his rookie season. More than anything, he ended up being a terrific player for a defense that's no longer relevant. If he was drafted 10 years ago when the 2-gap 3-4 was still effective, he would have been an excellent pick. |
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