Eric Berry has a Haglund’s deformity on his heel

[DaFace]

Yes, it's in the other thread. Bite me.

https://www.arrowheadpride.com/2018/...ty-on-his-heel

REPORT: Eric Berry has a Haglund’s deformity on his heel
New information on Berry’s sore heel injury emerged on Saturday.
By Pete Sweeney Sep 29, 2018, 1:15pm CDT

Eric Berry has not practiced or played for the Kansas City Chiefs since August 11 in St. Joseph, Missouri, because of what the team has described as a “sore heel.”

The last we heard from the Chiefs athletic training staff was in early September, when head athletic trainer Rick Burkholder described the injury as “literally day to day.”

More information on Berry’s injury emerged Saturday morning, via NFL Network’s Mike Garafolo:

Mike Garafolo: “My understanding, and I’ve spoken to people familiar with his injury situation. He’s got what’s called a Haglund’s deformity in that Achilles. That’s a bone spur that basically digs into the Achilles. Shaun O’ Hara, our colleague at NFL Network, he had it. I spoke to him this week. He said it is extremely painful. He actually used a more colorful word that I won’t use here. It’s just something that continues to irritate the area. Some guys have been able to play with it—you get a shoe here or there, you can adjust … but that’s what’s going on. It’s going to be a pain management thing. It’s not like this thing will tear the Achilles necessarily. A lot of these cases don’t result in a tear, but that’s why with Berry right now, he has not played, and they’ve been doing OK. That’s going to allow them a little bit more patience with Berry, but it is extremely painful.”

This provides a little more clarity than Berry’s injury simply being a “sore heel,” which is good, but what’s bad is there still seems to be no timetable. Remember, Berry missed nearly the entirety of the 2017 season due to a ruptured Achilles on the other leg.

Chiefs head coach Andy Reid was mum on the injury when asked about it Saturday afternoon after the Chiefs’ final practice of the week.

Berry is officially ruled doubtful heading into the Monday night game against the Denver Broncos.

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Here are the notes from our in-house medical expert, Aaron Borgmann:

A lot of talk today regarding something known as a Haglund’s deformity. It was reported by a media source that the player in question suffers from this condition. This discussion is not to confirm or deny that possibility, as I can only explain the available information that we have been given. To be clear, the team has not confirmed this diagnosis and I have no advance knowledge of the player’s current condition.

The simple explanation here that it is indeed a bone spur on the backside of someone’s heel. This is frequently known as a “pump bump” from the occurrence that it is often seen in women’s fashion from the shoes that they wear. However, incidence in football players is also common, sometimes referred to as “retrocalcaneal bursitis” as well.

The bone spur irritates the bursa (fluid-filled sac) that sits between the bone and the tendon or even the tendon itself directly. This can cause a great deal of inflammation and discomfort with any sort of dynamic ankle/foot movement, worse with pressure on the spot itself.

Having one in and of itself it not uncommon, but the degree to which it bothers someone is the issue. Depending upon demands of movement, these can range from debilitating to just a nuisance. Obviously, in football players, the degree of inflammation is what dictates the level of function.

These are diagnosed both visually and radiographically and it is a situation where if you see it and player complains of certain symptoms (pain with movement in that exact spot, swelling, redness) then you can be pretty sure that is what it is.

Treatment focuses on reduction of inflammation obviously directly over the spot. This can be done both topically and through systemic medication. Soft tissue lengthening in both the calf and bottom of the foot is also done to alleviate the issue from both sides – this is due to the fact that both the calf and plantar fascia connect to the calcaneus (heel bone) on either side.

Not to be forgotten is footwear modification and adjustment. Very rigid shoes can cause this irritation, and in some athletes, I would even cut the shoe in the heel to allow room for the bump. Other options include specialized padding and friction reduction methods. Heel lifts have been shown to be helpful in some.

For this condition, non-surgical intervention is preferred to reduce the inflammation as opposed to surgical due to the immobilization period.

If the inflammation can be reduced and the function level high, many players learned to adapt their daily routines to accommodate. They may have to put in a bit more time in order to get ready due to the condition’s demands but can nonetheless get by and still perform at a high level.

[BlackOp]

Originally Posted by JakeF

I'm just going by the rumors and media stories out at the time. I guess Reid and Dorsey argued about keep Maclin and the big contracts to Houston and Berry. Rumor has it that Reid left for a meeting or something. Dorsey cut Maclin while he was gone. He cut Charles too even though Reid really wanted to keep him.

All this contract stuff led to a dispute about who had the power. It could all be crap, it could all be true. Looking from the outside, it certainly fits what happened though.

We definitely heard leaks about Dorsey wanting Berry to pay for an insurance policy with his new contract. Berry got pissed, Dorsey basically refused to sign a contract without protection for the team. Clark Hunt flew up just to talk to Berry and work on the contract. A few days later Berry signed this big contract without any insurance or protection for the team. I don't think that Dorsey was even in the room.

Houston and Berry's contracts both took a long time to complete because I don't think that Dorsey thought they were a good idea. What it appears like from outside of the organization.

Dorsey comes from Green Bay, where they build from the draft and are careful who the pay big money. It makes sense that after Berry's cancer and Houston's persistent knee issues that Dorsey would be hesitant.

Time ultimately dispels fiction... and Dorsey was right on with both Berry and Maclin. KC let their best GM in franchise history go for petty, non-football, pissing match bullshit.

Just remember on Monday...that Hill, Kelce and Hunt cost KC two 3rds and a 5th round pick. Mahomes was drafted and the trade engineered by him too...the best looking QB prospect in maybe 10 years or ever. Veach was the whistle blower but JD had the vision to know exactly where to move...kind of like Chris Jones too.

The dude cracked a code that has eluded this franchise for almost 50 years...mad props.

**** off, Chunt....Wormy, corporate douchebag.

[ChiefsHawk]

didnt read the entire thread. My mom had the same issue and had the surgery. They actually have to detach the tendon, file down the bone spur and reattach it back. She was non weight bearing for 2 months...not looking promising for EB

[Baby Lee]

Anyone recommended a Shoedini yet?

[Rausch]

Don't act like someone was right or wrong because of a random medical condition.

If Berry had gone out there week 1 and blown the same achilles that would have been one thing, but he didn't.

This would be like some GM saying they were right not to draft Berry because he got cancer. Come on...

[Rausch]

Originally Posted by Baby Lee

Anyone recommended a Shoedini yet?

Ronnie Lott said to amputate, man up, and move on...

[Toad]

Originally Posted by Claysexual

For god's sake WHY? I mean, I can somewhat see the value of Maclin but Charles???
No.


No ****ing way.


The club cHunt gambled on Berry/Houston to be core and soul of this defense, and the club cHunt lost.





Absolutely. Do NOT repeat the mistake. The Chiefs are currently riding the crest of a long-overdue wave where the mistakes of the past are being cut like cancer from the collective host.
No need to put the vehicle in reverse.





Ya' think??? And what the **** is he doing back-ending the person he hired for that job and responsibility? That's not a good precedent, and this was HARDLY a "Save Our Chiefs"-scenario. You know, a scenario that would actually REQUIRE the hand of ownership to intervene???
( If we believe the stories, Hunt didn't want to touch such a "distasteful" event, much less fire the prick who caused it )


Let him wear his "dope crown"; he's earned the mother****er.





The issue currently on the table is not Dorsey's ability or inability to draft; it's about a GM looking out for his team financially both in the present AND future, and being blamed for cap woes and contracts that in hindsight were not of his creation.

Highly unlikely that Clark Hunt would allow the astronomical dead cap hit by cutting Berry after this year. Man, according to Sport Trac, the dead cap hit after this season is $28.9mm. Damn.

[carcosa]

Originally Posted by ChiefsFanatic

So, this is a little off topic, but it deals with player pain. I know the NFL has marijuana on its banned substance list. Do they also list Kratom as a banned substance?

Sent from my LG-H932 using Tapatalk

It's so ****ed that weed is banned. If you want to ease the pain without getting suspended you have to risk getting hooked on opiates.

[Sweet Daddy Hate]

Originally Posted by BlackOp

Time ultimately dispels fiction... and Dorsey was right on with both Berry and Maclin. KC let their best GM in franchise history go for petty, non-football, pissing match bullshit.

Just remember on Monday...that Hill, Kelce and Hunt cost KC two 3rds and a 5th round pick. Mahomes was drafted and the trade engineered by him too...the best looking QB prospect in maybe 10 years or ever. Veach was the whistle blower but JD had the vision to know exactly where to move...kind of like Chris Jones too.

The dude cracked a code that has eluded this franchise for almost 50 years...mad props.

**** off, Chunt....Wormy, corporate douchebag.

^^^^Nailed it.




Couldn't have said it better myself. Dorsey was the first GM in my long tenure as a fan that I had real confidence in. It was refreshing to see a guy so completely devoted to turning over every rock out there in the quest for hidden treasure. That guy loved to WORK. And I know he was as hell bent on building a great team as he was to prove himself at the next level.
Was he perfect? No. Was he better than the last 15 to 20 years of garbage that preceded him? Ab-so-****in' lutely. And in the end, it's a loss.
All we can do is be thankful for the QB and hope that the guy behind him is just as driven and managed to pick up some of his old boss's best traits.

[Eleazar]

Originally Posted by BlackOp

Time ultimately dispels fiction... and Dorsey was right on with both Berry and Maclin. KC let their best GM in franchise history go for petty, non-football, pissing match bullshit.

Just remember on Monday...that Hill, Kelce and Hunt cost KC two 3rds and a 5th round pick. Mahomes was drafted and the trade engineered by him too...the best looking QB prospect in maybe 10 years or ever. Veach was the whistle blower but JD had the vision to know exactly where to move...kind of like Chris Jones too.

The dude cracked a code that has eluded this franchise for almost 50 years...mad props.

**** off, Chunt....Wormy, corporate douchebag.

Yep. Dorsey got some contracts wrong, but he was right more often than not, and it was a bad day for the franchise when Hunt allowed Reid to push him out.

[Pitt Gorilla]

Originally Posted by BlackOp

Time ultimately dispels fiction... and Dorsey was right on with both Berry and Maclin. KC let their best GM in franchise history go for petty, non-football, pissing match bullshit.

Just remember on Monday...that Hill, Kelce and Hunt cost KC two 3rds and a 5th round pick. Mahomes was drafted and the trade engineered by him too...the best looking QB prospect in maybe 10 years or ever. Veach was the whistle blower but JD had the vision to know exactly where to move...kind of like Chris Jones too.

The dude cracked a code that has eluded this franchise for almost 50 years...mad props.

**** off, Chunt....Wormy, corporate douchebag.

Exactly. Veach hasn't yet shown he knows what he's doing in the draft.

[RunKC]

Originally Posted by BlackOp

Time ultimately dispels fiction... and Dorsey was right on with both Berry and Maclin. KC let their best GM in franchise history go for petty, non-football, pissing match bullshit.

Just remember on Monday...that Hill, Kelce and Hunt cost KC two 3rds and a 5th round pick. Mahomes was drafted and the trade engineered by him too...the best looking QB prospect in maybe 10 years or ever. Veach was the whistle blower but JD had the vision to know exactly where to move...kind of like Chris Jones too.

The dude cracked a code that has eluded this franchise for almost 50 years...mad props.

**** off, Chunt....Wormy, corporate douchebag.

Andy drafted excellent offensive players without Dorsey. He found Kareem Hunt, knew Travis Kelce years before he was a draft prospect and it’s a known fact that Dorsey didn’t play a big role in selecting Mahomes.

His defensive picks have been below average.

[TribalElder]

IR

[Sofa King]

Seeing Maclin's name reminds me... do people realize we're still paying him a shitload of dead money? Almost 5 million of our cap.

[Coach]

Originally Posted by Sofa King

Seeing Maclin's name reminds me... do people realize we're still paying him a shitload of dead money? Almost 5 million of our cap.

Unfortnuately, it was the right move at the time though, because Maclin's play has been declining rapidly. He's currently a free agent, and no team has bothered to look into him.

The voicemail thing though was not acceptable. That's on Dorsey.

That being said, almost all of the big dead cap money will be off of the books after the end of this season.

2018 - $18,478,464 is dead money. That's 8th in the NFL (per Spotrac).

2019 - Under the assumption that no major surprises, for example Eric Berry not being cut, $464,855 is dead money. And the Chiefs will have an estimated $50 million available on cap space.

[Marcellus]

Originally Posted by Pitt Gorilla

Exactly. Veach hasn't yet shown he knows what he's doing in the draft.

Veach is responsible for Mahomes. Period. Veach found LeSean MaCoy and DeSean Jackson when in Philly.

Dude gets 1 single draft here and statements like this...............