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Old 01-11-2010, 01:24 PM  
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Star Trek 12 Gets Release Date
I'm not sure if its Star Trek 12 or Star Trek 2, but the release date is June 29, 2012.

http://moviesblog.mtv.com/2010/01/11...-nothing-else/

UPDATE: Paramount has confirmed to MTV that the projected release date for the "Star Trek" sequel is indeed June 29, 2012.

This counts as news, but there's not much to it. We all know there's a "Star Trek" sequel coming. Hell, Alex Kurtzman and Roberto Orci, writers/producers of the May reboot, were talking about sequel possibilities as far back as the week after the first movie came out. Now we have a date to pin our hopes to: June 29, 2012.

Nothing else is known or announced, so don't ask. Maybe director J.J. Abrams will return to helm the sequel, maybe he won't. Maybe Khan will be the villain, maybe not. For all we know, the plan is to give us an epic "Star Trek Meets Star Wars" crossover. Could happen, right?

The news comes from a variety of sources, including Ain't It Cool News and Box Office Mojo, but there's no Paramount-issued press release that I can find. The information ran through some trustworthy sources, but we've yet to receive comment from the studio directly.

Regardless, there really hasn't ever been any doubt that we'd be seeing more "Star Trek." Abrams' take on the series made it friendly to an entirely new, much wider audience than its ever known before.

Were you anything less than certain that a "Star Trek" sequel was coming eventually? Where would you like the story to go from where it is now? Any specific hopes for the sequel?
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Old 12-11-2012, 04:26 PM   #196
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But that's the whole point/beauty of the alternate timeline/reboot concept. They aren't chained to what came previously.
I'm more concerned about the endings to Lost and Fringe and the abortion of a script that became Prometheus, than I am the alternate time line.

Kurtzman, Orci & Lindelof don't exactly have a great track record, IMO, with continuity or even logical thought.
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Old 12-11-2012, 04:29 PM   #197
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I'm more concerned about the endings to Lost and Fringe and the abortion of a script that became Prometheus, than I am the alternate time line.

Kurtzman, Orci & Lindelof don't exactly have a great track record, IMO, with continuity or even logical thought.
Fortunately Star Trek has never really been particularly high-concept, hard science fiction.

(I say this as a long, long time fan).

Not that it hasn't had its moments of greatness.
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Old 12-11-2012, 04:29 PM   #198
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I'm more concerned about the endings to Lost and Fringe and the abortion of a script that became Prometheus, than I am the alternate time line.

Kurtzman, Orci & Lindelof don't exactly have a great track record, IMO, with continuity or even logical thought.
I just ask that it has it's own internal logic/continuity. I don't care how it ties/connects/etc to TOS. That's out the window now. This is it's own thing.
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Old 12-11-2012, 04:31 PM   #199
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I just ask that it has it's own internal logic/continuity. I don't care how it ties/connects/etc to TOS. That's out the window now. This is it's own thing.
I don't care how it ties into the TOS, either.

As I stated earlier, I hope they don't **** it up, i.e., it makes sense within the universe they've created.

Up to this point, I've lost all faith in Orci, Kurtzman and Lindelof to deliver a cogent, logical and conclusive plot.
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Old 12-11-2012, 04:34 PM   #200
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Fortunately Star Trek has never really been particularly high-concept, hard science fiction.

(I say this as a long, long time fan).

Not that it hasn't had its moments of greatness.
I thought that the TOS had a fair amount of high-concept scripts and some cool, reality based science fiction.

That all went out the window when they introduced Time Travel in #4, which was used constantly from that point forward.

Once Time Travel becomes a major plot point, all bets are off and nothing truly exists, because Time Travel can erase everything.
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I don't care how it ties into the TOS, either.

As I stated earlier, I hope they don't **** it up, i.e., it makes sense within the universe they've created.

Up to this point, I've lost all faith in Orci, Kurtzman and Lindelof to deliver a cogent, logical and conclusive plot.
You said, "To me, it seems like they're taking characters from the Star Trek Universe and creating back stories that have absolutely no relation to the TOS. It's almost like they're in name only."

Which was primarily what I was responding to in my initial response to you. Your post implies that you care very much about how it relates to TOS.

Obviously, I misunderstood. My apologies.
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Up to this point, I've lost all faith in Orci, Kurtzman and Lindelof to deliver a cogent, logical and conclusive plot.


It'll be cool. Chris Pine is William Shatner 2.0.
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I thought that the TOS had a fair amount of high-concept scripts and some cool, reality based science fiction.
It did, but it also had some just god-awful ones too.

I think "The City on the Edge of Forever" by Harlan Ellison is still my one of favorite episodes of anything all time (and would I think have been even better without Roddenberry's typical utopian future meddling with the script but that's another discussion).

Ironically I guess, since we're talking about the foibles of time travel.
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You said, "To me, it seems like they're taking characters from the Star Trek Universe and creating back stories that have absolutely no relation to the TOS. It's almost like they're in name only."

Which was primarily what I was responding to in my initial response to you. Your post implies that you care very much about how it relates to TOS.

Obviously, I misunderstood. My apologies.
No, I DO NOT care how it relates to the TOS.

I care that there is a script and plot that actually makes sense, which is something I do not know if Orci, Kurtzman or Lindelof can deliver, based on their well-documented prior failures.
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It did, but it also had some just god-awful ones too.

I think "The City on the Edge of Forever" by Harlan Ellison is still my one of favorite episodes of anything all time (and would I think have been even better without Roddenberry's typical utopian future meddling with the script but that's another discussion).

Ironically I guess, since we're talking about the foibles of time travel.
That was certainly one of my favorites, as was "Mirror, Mirror", which is just outright silly but fun.

"City" didn't actually alter the events of time, did it? I can't remember.
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Balance of Terror is another one I will always watch if it's on.

If I remember right (it's been years since I saw it...), Edith Keeler had to die to keep the Nazis from taking over the world. McCoy had changed history saving her from a car wreck and Kirk had to un-change it. Or something like that. And Kirk being Kirk...he had to hook up with her and complicate things.

On the flip side...we had Bread and Circuses...and a wide variety of episodes featuring various and sundry space hippies.
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So she would have joined Starfleet if Kirk's father didn't die?

What relationship did Carol Marcus have with Kirk's father?
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Balance of Terror is another one I will always watch if it's on.

If I remember right (it's been years since I saw it...), Edith Keeler had to die to keep the Nazis from taking over the world. McCoy had changed history saving her from a car wreck and Kirk had to un-change it. Or something like that. And Kirk being Kirk...he had to hook up with her and complicate things.

On the flip side...we had Bread and Circuses...and a wide variety of episodes featuring various and sundry space hippies.
Balance of Terror was the one where they fought the Romulons ship to ship. Excellent episode.

The one you are talking about is City on the Edge of Forever with Joan Collins. Both from the 1st and "best" season of TOS. 2nd Season was decent too, but not quite as good......3rd season really blew for the most part and has some horribly dated episodes like the Space Hippies.
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Balance of Terror was the one where they fought the Romulons ship to ship. Excellent episode.

The one you are talking about is City on the Edge of Forever with Joan Collins. Both from the 1st and "best" season of TOS. 2nd Season was decent too, but not quite as good......3rd season really blew for the most part and has some horribly dated episodes like the Space Hippies.
Oh wait....duh, sorry didnt read your above posts.
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My favorite TOS episode is Doomsday Machine. I sure wouldn't mind them working Decker and the planet killer into a future movie.
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