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Old 07-12-2013, 04:04 PM  
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Worst to First?
And the ESPN/NFL Network love fest for the chiefs continue. On NFL Live they said the chiefs were the most likely team to go worst to first in our division, and yes they all realized Peyton Manning is still the qb for the Broncos.
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Old 07-17-2013, 08:38 PM   #196
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One way or another.. if KC can overcome statistical losing scenarios such as JAX, Dallas and at Buffalo then it's some sort of sign things aren't the same as they have been in twenty years.

Maybe.
If Gailey was still HC I wouldn't even both considering the outcome. I'd be a loss. He's not though and they have next to nothing at QB.

Dallas is so inconsistent it wouldn't shock me to hear they lost or beat anyone.

Jax is a flaming pile of $3it. No area of this team scares me.

Dallas probably should beat us. The other two don't bother me so much...
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that's a good thing. I came up with the Chiefs at 11-5, but then again, I had them only losing to the Broncos at Denver in the division, and well, history doesn't typically go that way.
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Old 07-17-2013, 08:44 PM   #198
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If Gailey was still HC I wouldn't even both considering the outcome. I'd be a loss. He's not though and they have next to nothing at QB.

Dallas is so inconsistent it wouldn't shock me to hear they lost or beat anyone.

Jax is a flaming pile of $3it. No area of this team scares me.

Dallas probably should beat us. The other two don't bother me so much...
Dallas, is a terrible road team. Dallas, still has an awful offensive line, and Dallas still has a qb that will shit his pants any time his team has to have a play. They are also transitioning to a bend but don't break defense.

The chiefs should beat them.....But, then again, the bi polar cowboys, could come out and blow the chiefs off the field. Not likely for a home opener though.
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Homeristic Fantasy? That's not a presumption? Then what would you call it?

If you were going to be intelligent about it, if you wanted to say anything, you would say they are unknowns. They aren't homeristic fantasy. Fasano has proven to be productive, and a hell of a blocker. Tony Moeaki has proven when healthy he has SKILLS. Those aren't homeristic fantasies. That's truth.
I call it a fact.

Fasano is a solid player.
Moeaki has made one big play.

The rest are nothing more than unrealized potential at this point.

Until, and unless, any of them realize that potential, to call them playmakers is nothing more than fantasy.
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Denver isn't going 2-6 on the road. Sac is severely underrating the Broncos. Severely.
No, I am not.

The Broncos defense is suspect at best, with the only marquee player being Von Miller. The linebacking corps are putrid, your CB's are old and your defensive line is a long list of nobodies (best being Derek Wolfe).

The offense is nice, but it's contingent upon a 38 year old QB with a now suspect arm and four neck surgeries. As well, the running back crew is basically the same guy - pedestrian speed, no lateral moves straight ahead runner. The offensive line is pretty darn good, especially the left side.

Manning is going to wear his arm completely out this season as you are going to see a lot of teams do what the Ravens did in the playoffs and force him deep by playing strong zone in the short to intermediate range.

Last year was a much an anomaly from a win-loss record as the Chiefs were. The Broncos benefitted from the easiest schedule in the league and teams still played back on Manning. That ain't happening this year and your defense is going to be forced to hold teams, especially on the road, and I don't think that they are capable of doing it.

10-6. And that's being generous.
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that's a good thing. I came up with the Chiefs at 11-5, but then again, I had them only losing to the Broncos at Denver in the division, and well, history doesn't typically go that way.
I had us at 9-7.

I don't see us beating Denver (unless Manning is down) and those NFC games are tough to predict.
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Old 07-17-2013, 08:59 PM   #202
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The chiefs should beat them.....But, then again, the bi polar cowboys, could come out and blow the chiefs off the field. Not likely for a home opener though.
The fact it's our home opener is the main reason I like our chances.

Pumped up crowd, new attacking defense, the team doesn't know the season is over yet...
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Old 07-18-2013, 06:04 AM   #204
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I call it a fact.

Fasano is a solid player.
Moeaki has made one big play.

The rest are nothing more than unrealized potential at this point.
Until, and unless, any of them realize that potential, to call them playmakers is nothing more than fantasy.
oh, you mean like an unknown? lol
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The fact it's our home opener is the main reason I like our chances.

Pumped up crowd, new attacking defense, the team doesn't know the season is over yet...
well, I agreed with the most of it, but, I doubt that any chiefs player would think if they were 2-0 that their season would be anywhere near over haha.
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Dallas, is a terrible road team. Dallas, still has an awful offensive line, and Dallas still has a qb that will shit his pants any time his team has to have a play. They are also transitioning to a bend but don't break defense.

The chiefs should beat them.....But, then again, the bi polar cowboys, could come out and blow the chiefs off the field. Not likely for a home opener though.
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The fact it's our home opener is the main reason I like our chances.

Pumped up crowd, new attacking defense, the team doesn't know the season is over yet...
Yeah just like Atlanta last year
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No, I am not.

The Broncos defense is suspect at best, with the only marquee player being Von Miller. The linebacking corps are putrid, your CB's are old and your defensive line is a long list of nobodies (best being Derek Wolfe).

The offense is nice, but it's contingent upon a 38 year old QB with a now suspect arm and four neck surgeries. As well, the running back crew is basically the same guy - pedestrian speed, no lateral moves straight ahead runner. The offensive line is pretty darn good, especially the left side.

Manning is going to wear his arm completely out this season as you are going to see a lot of teams do what the Ravens did in the playoffs and force him deep by playing strong zone in the short to intermediate range.

Last year was a much an anomaly from a win-loss record as the Chiefs were. The Broncos benefitted from the easiest schedule in the league and teams still played back on Manning. That ain't happening this year and your defense is going to be forced to hold teams, especially on the road, and I don't think that they are capable of doing it.

10-6. And that's being generous.
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117 tackles, 5.5 sacks and 3 interceptions from our WLB and 18.5 sacks from our SLB doesn't seem putrid to me.

Our CBs are old? Name 2 old corners on the Broncos.

Our DL had 10 sacks (outside of Doom) last year, and played extremely well against the run. I don't care if you know their names, they're playing well.

Manning thrived on the deep ball all season long. Baltimore's defensive plan was to take away everything deep and make Peyton dink and dunk down the field. It worked, too. Peyton threw 43 passes, and only 2 of them were over 20 yards.

Denver did not have the easiest schedule in the league, Atlanta did. In fact, Denver's schedule (25th) was not much easier than KC's (23rd).
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The fact is they had a losing record against quality opponents and shit their pants in the playoffs. They made their bones by picking on the sisters of the poor in the AFC West. No hiding from that.
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The fact is they had a losing record against quality opponents and shit their pants in the playoffs. They made their bones by picking on the sisters of the poor in the AFC West. No hiding from that.
They lost in a double OT thanks to some nice bombs and poor coverage... the losses to the great teams came early. It happens.

It's not like they lost to a team like the Jags in 96.
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