NFLN Top 100 Players of 2016 starts tonight. Which Chiefs make it?

[pugsnotdrugs19]

100-91 starts at 7pm Arrowhead time. I love this show, every year it's one of my favorites. Really gives a good insight to player opinions around the league. With all that said, who do you see making the list for us this year? Last year, we had Jamaal Charles (12), Justin Houston (27, criminally low after 22 sack season), Jeremy Maclin (61, after signing), and Tamba Hali (70).

I'll predict that this year making the player's list will be....

Charles (he'll make it, trust me)
Maclin
Kelce
Houston
Hali
DJ
Peters
Berry

That's 8 for me, which would likely be tied for the most or 2nd most in the league amongst teams...

Thus far:

Justin Houston:http://www.nfl.com/videos/nfl-top100...Justin-Houston

Eric Berry: http://www.nfl.com/videos/nfl-top100...-55-Eric-Berry

Marcus Peters: http://www.nfl.com/videos/nfl-top100...-Marcus-Peters

Jamaal Charles: http://www.nfl.com/videos/nfl-top100...Jamaal-Charles

Derrick Johnson: http://www.nfl.com/videos/nfl-top100...errick-Johnson

Alex Smith: http://www.nfl.com/videos/nfl-top100...-81-Alex-Smith

Tamba Hali: http://www.nfl.com/videos/nfl-top100...-84-Tamba-Hali

Travis Kelce: http://www.nfl.com/videos/nfl-top100...1-Travis-Kelce

Jeremy Maclin: http://www.nfl.com/videos/nfl-top100...-Jeremy-Maclin

[ThaVirus]

Originally Posted by staylor26

. It was all Alex's fault, and now some miracle happened and Alex had success with a WR that isn't that much better than he is (in his delusional mind). I mean the guy literally said "Why couldn't he throw the ball to me like that?" Are you ****ing reeruned?.

Stop editing your shit so much.

He specified that he was talking about the deep balls that Alex was throwing Maclin last season.

I still don't see any problem with it. When Kaep stepped in after Smith got hurt, Crabs' production exploded immediately.

[staylor26]

Originally Posted by ThaVirus

You edited that second part. When I originally saw and quoted it, the part about Maclin getting separation wasn't in it. Are you going to deny that?

Most EVERY player thinks they're better than they truly are.

And that's where we disagree yet again. "Total shock"? You're exaggerating. All he said was "Who knew Maclin would be a good fit for Alex Smith". Then he said something to the effect of them establishing good chemistry and that they balled out or something.

I just don't see a ton of butthurt in his comments.

What does it matter whether I edited it or not? You still saw it and had the oppurtunity to add a rebuttal, but you chose instead to change the subject entirely. You tapped bro, it's ok.

Also, I guess you missed the "Why couldn't he throw the ball to me like that?" part. That's two comments that reek of him being salty. It doesn't take a ****ing shrink to read between those lines.

[staylor26]

Originally Posted by ThaVirus

Stop editing your shit so much.

He specified that he was talking about the deep balls that Alex was throwing Maclin last season.

I still don't see any problem with it. When Kaep stepped in after Smith got hurt, Crabs' production exploded immediately.

I'll edit my shit as much as I want. It's not like I'm doing it 5 mins later. It's before it can even add the edit notification.

He got the ball to Maclin deep more than Crabtree because Maclin is actually a ****ing deep threat and not a possession WR like Crabtree.

[ThaVirus]

Originally Posted by staylor26

What does it matter whether I edited it or not? You still saw it and had the oppurtunity to add a rebuttal, but you chose instead to change the subject entirely. You tapped bro, it's ok.



Also, I guess you missed the "Why couldn't he throw the ball to me like that?" part. That's two comments that reek of him being salty. It doesn't take a ****ing shrink to read between those lines.

You edited it AFTER I originally saw it and responded. I didn't even see that you had added that bit until I went back to quote it again.

Doesn't matter anyway. It really isn't entirely factual. Crabs had nearly 1,000 yards and 9 TDs as a #2 last season. He CLEARLY isn't that bad.

And, again, he was specifically talking about the deep balls. Do I need to get a ****ing transcript for you to read? Which, AGAIN, isn't incredibly out of left field. As I said, his numbers boomed almost immediately after Kaep assumed the starting job.

[staylor26]

Originally Posted by ThaVirus

You edited it AFTER I originally saw it and responded. I didn't even see that you had added that bit until I went back to quote it again.

Doesn't matter anyway. It really isn't entirely factual. Crabs had nearly 1,000 yards and 9 TDs as a #2 last season. He CLEARLY isn't that bad.

And, again, he was specifically talking about the deep balls. Do I need to get a ****ing transcript for you to read? Which, AGAIN, isn't incredibly out of left field. As I said, his numbers boomed almost immediately after Kaep assumed the starting job.

Crabtree complaining that Smith couldn't get him the ball deep "like that" is a clear example of how delusional that guy is.

If you can't see that, you're a ****ing moron.

[ThaVirus]

Originally Posted by staylor26

Crabtree complaining that Smith couldn't get him the ball deep "like that" is a clear example of how delusional that guy is.

If you can't see that, you're a ****ing moron.

You're approaching Dane-level debate tactics right now. You're arguing shit I never argued.

[staylor26]

Originally Posted by ThaVirus

You're approaching Dane-level debate tactics right now. You're arguing shit I never argued.

You just said Crabtree was referring to the deep ball as if it supported your argument.

[The Franchise]

Girls, girls, girls. Settle the **** down.

[ThaVirus]

Originally Posted by staylor26

You just said Crabtree was referring to the deep ball as if it supported your argument.

I got a little sidetracked because you keep making new arguments. My argument from the start has been that your assessment of Crabs' feelings toward Alex were off base.

[staylor26]

Originally Posted by ThaVirus

I got a little sidetracked because you keep making new arguments. My argument from the start has been that your assessment of Crabs' feelings toward Alex were off base.

I'm making new arguments? No, I'm just not talking myself in circles like you are. I keep using examples to show you how you're wrong and you're ignoring them.

Whatever though. I guess everybody else that saw it is off base too. You're the only ****ing reerun that can't read between the lines.

I'm aware that Crabtree does not simply hate Alex. I'm aware he had some nice things to say. That doesn't change the fact that he threw some shade.

Like pugs said, why would he describe their situation as "not working out" when they won?

Why would he say, "Why couldn't he throw me the ball like that?"

There's clearly some saltiness in those words for anybody that can see through the "he's a good dude" bullshit.

[vailpass]

Originally Posted by Pestilence

Girls, girls, girls. Settle the **** down.

Right. Let's focus on something important such as how many Broncos we think will make this list when it's all said and done.

[ThaVirus]

Originally Posted by staylor26

I'm making new arguments? No, I'm just not talking myself in circles like you are. I keep using examples to show you how you're wrong and you're ignoring them.

Whatever though. I guess everybody else that saw it is off base too. You're the only ****ing reerun that can't read between the lines.

I'm aware that Crabtree does not simply hate Alex. I'm aware he had some nice things to say. That doesn't change the fact that he threw some shade.

Like pugs said, why would he describe their situation as "not working out" when they won?

Why would he say, "Why couldn't he throw me the ball like that?"

You've gone from Crabs insulted Alex to Crabs is a #2 at best to Crabs isn't as good as Maclin to Crabs is delusional.

I'm saying he didn't seem all that butthurt to me and his comments about it "not working out for them" and "why couldn't he throw me some of those deep balls" aren't entirely off the mark given what happened almost immediately after Smith was benched.

I'd imagine he was saying it didn't work out for them so well because, well, it really didn't. As a QB-WR1 duo they underperformed which no doubt had an effect on the potency of their offense overall.

[staylor26]

Originally Posted by ThaVirus

You've gone from Crabs insulted Alex to Crabs is a #2 at best to Crabs isn't as good as Maclin to Crabs is delusional.

I'm saying he didn't seem all that butthurt to me and his comments about it "not working out for them" and "why couldn't he throw me some of those deep balls" aren't entirely off the mark given what happened almost immediately after Smith was benched.

I'd imagine he was saying it didn't work out for them so well because, well, it really didn't. As a QB-WR1 duo they underperformed which no doubt had an effect on the potency of their offense overall.

Not one of those comments is innacurate or contradicts the other, and for the most part they go hand in hand.

They didn't "work out" as a QB-WR1 duo because Crabtree isn't a true ****ing #1. Never has been. Never will be. His skill set is that of a #2. He doesn't see this, hence me calling him delusional. Maclin is a true #1, hence my point there.

He's insinuating that was Alex's fault ("Why couldn't he throw ME the ball like that?"), and that he's all of a sudden become a different QB, which is false. He's not a ****ing deep threat. If he thinks he is, he's even more delusional than I thought.

The reason why I say he insulted Alex is because he acted like it was a big ****ing surprise that Alex and Maclin had any success together. It was his way of saying I'm surprised he could get him the ball. If that's not an insult to your former QB, I don't know what is.

[ThaVirus]

Originally Posted by staylor26

Not one of those comments is innacurate or contradicts the other, and for the most part they go hand in hand.

They didn't "work out" as a QB-WR1 duo because Crabtree isn't a true ****ing #1. Never has been. Never will be. His skill set is that of a #2. He doesn't see this, hence me calling him delusional. Maclin is a true #1, hence my point there.

He's insinuating that was Alex's fault ("Why couldn't he throw ME the ball like that?"), and that he's all of a sudden become a different QB, which is false.

The reason why I say he insulted Alex is because he acted like it was a big ****ing surprise that Alex and Maclin had any success together. It was his way of saying I'm surprised he could get him the ball. If that's not an insult to your former QB, I don't know what is.

He has shown the ability to be a true #1, specifically while he was playing with Kaep in the latter half of 2012 including a pretty stellar postseason as well as another pretty good postseason game in 2013.

Shit, even as a #2 with Derek Carr he had a better season statistically than Cooper in some categories.

Skill set isn't the end-all-be-all in determining starter potential. Bowe, Boldin, Rice, Roddy White, etc are all possession receivers who have been #1s throughout their career.

[OldSchool]

Congrats to Marcus Peters.

Also, stop arguing about Smith. People are just going to have their own opinion about him, right or wrong. He's the QB of this team right now, nothing you think or say will change that fact. So chill.