My final Geno thread before the draft

[ChiefAshhole20]

Originally Posted by O.city

I think they were or are somewhat interested but the acquisition of Alex smith changes things.


We need more pass rush from the dl. I think powe has ability and I think Poe will be a monster in there. But Richardson would make sense. Richardson Poe devito powe would rotate well

But would you feel comfortable drafting a rotational player with the first pick?

[keg in kc]

Originally Posted by O.city

I think they were or are somewhat interested but the acquisition of Alex smith changes things.

I think it's the opposite. I think the initial decision on Alex Smith was made not only before we'd done due diligence on Geno Smith, but before we even had a GM. I think that's 100% Reid's hire and I think we were set down that path starting on day 1, during meetings between Clark and Andy. I think as they've gone through the evaluation process as a staff, I think the interest in Geno, which I think is genuine, has grown. I don't think Andy Reid, as an individual, could have had any idea about Geno when the Alex decision was made, because literally all of his time leading up to that point would have been absorbed with the day-to-day running of the Eagles. He'd probably seen him play, and I'm sure he knew who he was at the time, but I doubt seriously that he'd spent much time studying any player for the 2013 draft at that point. That's the whole point of all this evaluation they do in February and March, after all...

Now what they specifically think of him, in conjunction with the 1:1, I have no earthly idea. I'm not saying he's the pick when I say they have genuine interest. The genuine interest part was in reference to their interest at the Combine and his pro day, and the private workout last week.

[O.city]

Originally Posted by keg in kc

I could see wanting someone like Dion Jordan, but I just don't get the fascination with star or joeckel/fisher. Really limited return for your investment, particularly with Star. I want somebody who can change games with this pick.

I think star can but it would be an investment more than immediate. But like I said before that seems to be the 2013 draft early.


Richardson wouldn't be a bad pick either IMO.

[aturnis]

Originally Posted by Messier

We should no trouble whatsoever getting a team to trade up with us, right? If Geno is really valuable, teams should want to get ahead of the Jags.

It's different. Because some of us are saying he's worth 1.1, your assuming he must be worth 1.? + top picks in this and/or next years draft. One pick, vs multiple high value picks.

RGIII brought a haul last year, does that mean every player ever to go 1.1 should? No. Don't be silly.

[aturnis]

Originally Posted by O.city

By that logic, no one is worth the pick because no one wants to trade up for anyone. IMO that's a lot of the logic for taking geno. No one in the top 15 or so this year, really stands out. This could end up being 09 in terms of busts as there are a lot of guys picked on potential.


The most likely thing to do is trade Albert and take one of the lt's if you think they are as good or better than Albert

Nice.

[aturnis]

Originally Posted by RunKC

Geno is not a franchise QB. That's why you are not Nobody believes he's a franchise QB prospect. If they did, than he would be the first pick in the draft easily and the 1st, 3rd, 7th and 8th teams in the draft wouldn't have gotten veteran QB's.

Joeckel would be better than Albert for multiple reasons that are easily specified.

An OT is the best prospect in the draft and Dorsey is going to stick to his word and draft BPA. Idk what is so hard to understand about that?

I think in a stronger LT class Joeckel is a mid-2nd round pick. He doesn't look good. If you're talking Fisher, you have a better argument, but Jokester is not even close to obvious #1.

[Saccopoo]

Originally Posted by aturnis

I think in a stronger LT class Joeckel is a mid-2nd round pick. He doesn't look good. If you're talking Fisher, you have a better argument, but Jokester is not even close to obvious #1.

He's nowhere close to being the same type of player that guys like Okung, Long and Thomas were at the same stage.

Personally, I don't think he's as good as Clady or Costanzo or Solder or Sherrod or Oher at the same stage. And I don't think he's as good as Barrett Jones, who, as a junior, won the Outland Trophy at left tackle and just absolutely dominated guys from that spot.

And from what I saw this past year, he wasn't even the best offensive tackle on his college team.

RunKC is one of those weird dudes who refuses to like Geno regardless of how much production, information, et al. is out there that points to Geno absolutely being the top QB in this draft, and, IMO, the top prospect in this draft. He's fought against Geno for the better part of four months now and has been throwing out guys left and right trying to say that they are a better prospect than Geno. He's about the only guy left at this point (along than MahiMike). Personally, I think it's got to do with something beyond the football field, but whatev's.

[RealSNR]

Originally Posted by Saccopoo

He's nowhere close to being the same type of player that guys like Okung, Long and Thomas were at the same stage.

Personally, I don't think he's as good as Clady or Costanzo or Solder or Sherrod or Oher at the same stage. And I don't think he's as good as Barrett Jones, who, as a junior, won the Outland Trophy at left tackle and just absolutely dominated guys from that spot.

And from what I saw this past year, he wasn't even the best offensive tackle on his college team.

RunKC is one of those weird dudes who refuses to like Geno regardless of how much production, information, et al. is out there that points to Geno absolutely being the top QB in this draft, and, IMO, the top prospect in this draft. He's fought against Geno for the better part of four months now and has been throwing out guys left and right trying to say that they are a better prospect than Geno. He's about the only guy left at this point (along than MahiMike). Personally, I think it's got to do with something beyond the football field, but whatev's.

Possible butthurt about Tyler Wilson?

[Saccopoo]

Originally Posted by SNR

Possible butthurt about Tyler Wilson?

I don't know, but he's turned into a major negativist tool.

Maybe he's just so far up Kiper's butthole that he can't see the forest for the trees.

[The Franchise]

Originally Posted by Saccopoo

I don't know, but he's turned into a major negativist tool.

Maybe he's just so far up Kiper's butthole that he can't see the forest for the trees.

It has to do with Tyler Wilson. Just like ChiefsandO'sfan is now the same way....because of Barkley. They were all gung ho about their perspective QBs a while ago but as Wilson and Barkley dropped.....they became raging pro Alex Smith assholes. Now all they do is create posts like:

"Wait until April 25th.....you'll be disappointed."

[Sweet Daddy Hate]

Originally Posted by SNR

Possible butthurt about Tyler Wilson?

"possible"? Try hot, scathing, and plentiful.
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[keg in kc]

That may be going a bit far on Joeckel. Mid-1st round pick maybe, in a stronger class. Maybe in the 20s. Mid-2nd seems a little overkill.

I would agree re: Fisher.

[penbrook]

Originally Posted by keg in kc

That may be going a bit far on Joeckel. Mid-1st round pick maybe, in a stronger class. Maybe in the 20s. Mid-2nd seems a little overkill.

I would agree re: Fisher.

Kiper said in a normal draft Joeckel would be a 15-32 pick.

[Simply Red]

LJ will be our pick. Sucks but oh well.

[penbrook]

Originally Posted by Simply Red

LJ will be our pick. Sucks but oh well.

Nope its either Geno or Fisher.